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Bladers own ever since the european update came out. Bladers can tank a couple hits from rogues and wizards, and kill them easily enough if they have life control/dagger desperate/crossbow extreme. I myself think bladers have amazing looking weapons, and sweet skills such as knockdown, stabs, and chains are sexy!
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Did anyone saw next chain?
Dull 10 lvl
Fear 10 lvl
Stun 10 lvl

Well, i dont think that later will bladers be weaker than now.

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Dark_Ness wrote:Did anyone saw next chain?
Dull 10 lvl
Fear 10 lvl
Stun 10 lvl

Well, i dont think that later will bladers be weaker than now.


That doesn't help damage...

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That doesn't help damage...




Well, division is enough help, if someone wants more damage help then he should do build blader/fire/force, and if you enjoy fighting somebody who is impossible to click at him, then w8 at 100 lvl cap and start fighting bladers.

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BloodOwnzzz wrote:
Dark_Ness wrote:Did anyone saw next chain?
Dull 10 lvl
Fear 10 lvl
Stun 10 lvl

Well, i dont think that later will bladers be weaker than now.


That doesn't help damage...
Ofcourse it will help damage, you have to look it this way.

Dull slowers your enemy down, wich means he hits slowly.. almost likes hes frozen for a bit, where you can do more damage or knock him down. Thats what i'm doing with my Warrior 1h+2h (Switching wep during fight)

Fear stuns your enemy for 10 seconds, wich means you can do more damage, and have time to regenerate hp, cause maybe he could have killed you in that 10 second ? :D

and ye same gooes for stun
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lol you dont even know what fear does LOL

yes my 80 blader is retired id rather make a s/s pure int
i have to admit blader is my favorite class in the game but the damn thing needs so much sp and it grinds so slow i cant take that no more

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The only thing this combo actually is good for is for a S/S in 1v1, especially vs Bow with their KB(You can get bunch Nukes off in that time).

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SaoKill wrote:Bladers own ever since the european update came out. Bladers can tank a couple hits from rogues and wizards, and kill them easily enough if they have life control/dagger desperate/crossbow extreme. I myself think bladers have amazing looking weapons, and sweet skills such as knockdown, stabs, and chains are sexy!


nope, u can be 1 hitted by wiz of ur level...and its dangerous to fight against any 2h, rogue, especially if they have a gay cleric sub
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CLOT wrote:
SaoKill wrote:Bladers own ever since the european update came out. Bladers can tank a couple hits from rogues and wizards, and kill them easily enough if they have life control/dagger desperate/crossbow extreme. I myself think bladers have amazing looking weapons, and sweet skills such as knockdown, stabs, and chains are sexy!


nope, u can be 1 hitted by wiz of ur level...and its dangerous to fight against any 2h, rogue, especially if they have a gay cleric sub


with a decent set you can survive them fairly easy.

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Any build can own, but don't expect a build to be good at everything; each build has it's weaknesses and strengths. You can own a build if you know how to play it ^,^. Bladers weren't meant to be the killers, they were meant to be the tank, so tank!
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well to the above poster, sry that i dnt know what fear actually does, I tought that your enemy couldnt attack you for few secs.

yes Bladers were meant to tank, but they can kill int's easy ;p
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Ok, people always say they are a "turk build," or "noob build," because they don't die... but that is very far off... they are an excellent build, and I hate when people talk bad about them...

Sure their are a few things bad about them, such as their skills... although they look cool, they are slow, and it gives the opponent time to heal... but on the bright side, they will never kill you.

To this day, I have never gotten one hit by a level 80 pure strength... although they do kill me, it takes like 5-7 hits... Pure int's almost always one hit me... but than again their a higher level...

Their skills, they are AMAZING; in my opinion, better looking than any other weapon skills.

So let me break it down;

Pros:
[*]High Physical/Magical Defense...
[*]Shield that blocks many hits...
[*]Don't die...


Can't really think of anything else to add to this list... all I can say is that they are amazing... I have been using the build for about 1-2 months now, and love it. Pure int's don't do JACK SHIT for damage to me, not even when their about 6 levels higher... Pure str glaviers can't kill me, although it takes me a long time to kill them too...

Cons:
[*]Only 2 main attacks...
[*]Slow at attacking, but you can create good combo's yourself...
[*]Expensive build, you really need to have a good set to be able to own... I have the only SOS set and SOS Shield on Hercules [D7] and so therefore 67's and lower barely hit anything on me...
[*]Slow at leveling, takes FOREVER to level...


Although they are somewhat slow, once the attacks get started they are fast for the most part...

For the heaven chain, at level 59 with a 8 gap, this is how much damage I did in about 3-4 seconds on a level 61...

1210 - 607 - 551 - 426 - 1792 = 4,586 Damage

Now if you do a combo, like my favorite is Blood Chain - Ascension Chain - Heaven Chain, I usually can instantly kill anything my level in a PvP or PvE...

Anyways... hope that helps...
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well. i think blader whit +3-+5 wepondz cant kill they lv glavie's ,bows..but hey can kill nukers easy...few Kd's and a good crit...but if u got like sos+5 or som.. or even sun! they can kill. saw lots of pvp's im bow lv 71 and i get pwned by lv 72 blade (+7 blade) all he needed was like 5-7Kd's and 4-3 stab's and the last one was crit. i after it , all can i do was slowely look how blader (freezed) doing the chain and im standing waiting for my death :) but even if he stand afk i cant kill him in 5 mins ( +9 shield)... after 2 crits i did it, i think any build can kill,just u must know how to play it :love:
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You bring up a few good points... It just matters how you play it...

I have the best D7 set in Hercules... so thats the main reason I own SO much. =]

60+7 Shield Br 17 [Full]
60+5 Blade [Full]
SOS Head +4 [Full]
SOS Legs +3 [Full]
SOS Hands +3 [Full]
SOS Earrings +3 [Full 9 BLUES!]
SOS Necklace +3 [Full]
SOS Ring +4 [Full]
57+4 Chest [Full]

Shoulder/Legs are just the highest level I can use... they have +5str and thats it... so thats the main reason I dominate so many people of all levels higher than me...

Right now I am using a SOS+5 Shield until I finish up gaining the other 30% of lvl. 59, but after that I got the +7 waiting... I am also using the best lvl 56 blade in server... has crit 12 +70% mag, all amazing... =]

I love bladers, but I also get tired of them and wish I still had my 5:1 hybrid int spear nuker. =]
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perpaps it's helpful to define what u mean by owning. bladers own at not dying. but they do not own at killing. btw: it doesnt help much to post videos. since u don't know the gears and weapons of the fighting chars. with same gears, blader do not kill. it's that easy.
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Wow... so wrong...

Do they own [as in killing]?: In my opinion yes... although they aren't like nukers who one hit everything or pacheon builds that is PURELY based off of the critical on their weapon... Bicheon builds is a SKILL and a talent you have to learn... although they are one of the slowest leveling builds possible, in PvP, if you know how to use the build and your skills you will win.

What I mean by knowing how to use you build, is the order. You don't just press random keys, you need to learn the fastest way to start a chain and end it... Such as mine where I use;

Blood Chain ---> Ascension Chain ---> Heaven Chain

So far, that is the best COMBO CHAIN, I have made...

Here are un-deniable facts...

  • Bladers don't die...
  • Bladers can kill any build, but it isn't a quick kill...
  • With bad equipment, you will die...

Now blader won't die against mobs 15 levels higher with NPC gear, but in PvP they will. Right now I have one of the best sets at level 58, and I can tank lvl. 74 mobs, I might make a video of it soon...

So, to all those people who think you can beat a blader, think again and come fight me... :) I have amazing equipment and will own just about any build, except for a few European builds.
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CLOT wrote:
SaoKill wrote:Bladers own ever since the european update came out. Bladers can tank a couple hits from rogues and wizards, and kill them easily enough if they have life control/dagger desperate/crossbow extreme. I myself think bladers have amazing looking weapons, and sweet skills such as knockdown, stabs, and chains are sexy!


nope, u can be 1 hitted by wiz of ur level...and its dangerous to fight against any 2h, rogue, especially if they have a gay cleric sub

You have a lot better chance than any other build to survive a rogue or wizard... And, if you block there first attack, there screwed... Also, even if you don't, and you survive it, you can go and kd them, which could possibly one hit them if they have on life control or dagger desperate or crossbow extreme.
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HertogJan wrote:Bladers can kill, just need to get a status on somebody else.



just need a blue pill for that :S
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i toataly agree that this : blader can kill if they good items and farmed skills. 8)
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Repercussion wrote:Wow... so wrong...

Do they own [as in killing]?: In my opinion yes... although they aren't like nukers who one hit everything or pacheon builds that is PURELY based off of the critical on their weapon... Bicheon builds is a SKILL and a talent you have to learn... although they are one of the slowest leveling builds possible, in PvP, if you know how to use the build and your skills you will win.

What I mean by knowing how to use you build, is the order. You don't just press random keys, you need to learn the fastest way to start a chain and end it... Such as mine where I use;

Blood Chain ---> Ascension Chain ---> Heaven Chain

So far, that is the best COMBO CHAIN, I have made...

Here are un-deniable facts...

  • Bladers don't die...
  • Bladers can kill any build, but it isn't a quick kill...
  • With bad equipment, you will die...

Now blader won't die against mobs 15 levels higher with NPC gear, but in PvP they will. Right now I have one of the best sets at level 58, and I can tank lvl. 74 mobs, I might make a video of it soon...

So, to all those people who think you can beat a blader, think again and come fight me... :) I have amazing equipment and will own just about any build, except for a few European builds.



Lawl, just lawl '-.-

Archers don't only depend on the crit of their weapon and nukers can't 1 nuke people their level unless their opponents have pure npc gear.

It also takes skill and talent to be good with any build, just doesn't apply to bladers only. You can own with any build, you just gotta know how to use it, and know its limitations.

Lawl, egotistical much? Sure, you might have a good set, but doubtful you've never been beaten in pvp before. Bladers don't own in the killing department, trust me on that one. I have an int hybrid s/s, and in ALL my pvp with bladers (even before the introduction of snow shield) have come out just to be a pot war. Sure, they can tank, but without godly equips, they can't kill.
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Jstar1 wrote:if you never want to die go blader

they suck at dmg dealing, you'll never kill ppl but they wont kill you

ther fun if you dont like dieing and can handle the boring boring grind involved, or can pwrlvl



Bladers like all builds, are not immortal. They do die... they are just not the build to go atm because of all the Euro skills... You'll end up the one KD'ed. I haven't played SRO for a several months, but I think they fixed the 0% freeze bug? (correct me if i'm wrong) I think int S/S will come out on top in pvp against bladers. I mean... unless the blader has outrageous equipment (costly), there's nothing from a blader that you can't deal with using a vigor. I'm only talking about Ice INT s/s tho. The freezing will work better than KD if the bug is fixed. (nuke + chain)

Btw... in job war and fortress war (useful pvp), a blader is probably not gonna get all the time that he needs to kill another player. The only use of a blader in such situations is bound to be reduced to the mere tank. (imo, not fun.)

I prefer to deal damage, but that's just me.

Glaives tho... are guaranteed hits...Everyone knows glaives will be even better later on. They hit good damage.(if you wanna play Chinese, that is)

Euros, are a whole different story. Rogue (ur build) isn't a bad idea at all.

although... just use your stealth wisely and attack people when they least expect it. Bladers are not that hard to take down when you are lucky. Use your turbo to get away if must, and come back for kill later.

Try not to use xbow damage increase and then stay to fight. Use dagger once they get close, and TURBO away if things go ugly. Bladers shouldn't be a prob for you.

I've had blader friends who have very tough times against rogues. Your turbo makes it impossible for a blader to keep up his/her already pitiable damage-output.


P.S. get CLERIC sub, you'll OWN

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RuYi wrote:I love Bladers, it's my favorite build. Whoever says Bladers suck and can't kill, don't know how to play them. Use the build in the right way and it can definitely own.

There's no other build that can tank as well and ontop of that they got the best looking skills.


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Repercussion wrote:Wow... so wrong...

Do they own [as in killing]?: In my opinion yes... although they aren't like nukers who one hit everything or pacheon builds that is PURELY based off of the critical on their weapon... Bicheon builds is a SKILL and a talent you have to learn... although they are one of the slowest leveling builds possible, in PvP, if you know how to use the build and your skills you will win.

What I mean by knowing how to use you build, is the order. You don't just press random keys, you need to learn the fastest way to start a chain and end it... Such as mine where I use;

Blood Chain ---> Ascension Chain ---> Heaven Chain

So far, that is the best COMBO CHAIN, I have made...

Here are un-deniable facts...

  • Bladers don't die...
  • Bladers can kill any build, but it isn't a quick kill...
  • With bad equipment, you will die...

Now blader won't die against mobs 15 levels higher with NPC gear, but in PvP they will. Right now I have one of the best sets at level 58, and I can tank lvl. 74 mobs, I might make a video of it soon...

So, to all those people who think you can beat a blader, think again and come fight me... :) I have amazing equipment and will own just about any build, except for a few European builds.


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when i was thief yesturday i was figthing a hunter blader he was well 5 lvls high than me and had a hard time killing me
im a nuker
the fight was really going nowhere
until his friend came in to kill me
i should have zerked when is friend popped in

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antics wrote:when i was thief yesturday i was figthing a hunter blader he was well 5 lvls high than me and had a hard time killing me
im a nuker
the fight was really going nowhere
until his friend came in to kill me
i should have zerked when is friend popped in


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Repercussion wrote:Wow... so wrong...

Do they own [as in killing]?: In my opinion yes... although they aren't like nukers who one hit everything or pacheon builds that is PURELY based off of the critical on their weapon... Bicheon builds is a SKILL and a talent you have to learn... although they are one of the slowest leveling builds possible, in PvP, if you know how to use the build and your skills you will win.

What I mean by knowing how to use you build, is the order. You don't just press random keys, you need to learn the fastest way to start a chain and end it... Such as mine where I use;

Blood Chain ---> Ascension Chain ---> Heaven Chain

So far, that is the best COMBO CHAIN, I have made...

Here are un-deniable facts...

  • Bladers don't die...
  • Bladers can kill any build, but it isn't a quick kill...
  • With bad equipment, you will die...

Now blader won't die against mobs 15 levels higher with NPC gear, but in PvP they will. Right now I have one of the best sets at level 58, and I can tank lvl. 74 mobs, I might make a video of it soon...

So, to all those people who think you can beat a blader, think again and come fight me... :) I have amazing equipment and will own just about any build, except for a few European builds.

you're talking so much shit, it's incredible. your only lvl 60 blader. most of us are 80 and playing sro for more than 2 years. you really think we don't know how to use skills? you don't even have the latest skills yet, so your experience is heavily modest. beside that, every build/weapons got only a few really usefull skills. with your experience, you know almost nothing about pvp at really high lvl. though im glaive now, i was a blader myself. and i fought so many lvl 80 fully farmed bladers. their gears didnt suck and my dont suck too. so stop talking shit and listen to the people, who got a year or more experience than u.
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I love my blader. Even though he can not kill as fast as int or bow, he is the most fun build I ever played and they are the coolest looking build ever. Also, in my opinion they dont cost that much to get good equips u just hav to know how to bargin.
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vanom wrote:
Repercussion wrote:Wow... so wrong...

Do they own [as in killing]?: In my opinion yes... although they aren't like nukers who one hit everything or pacheon builds that is PURELY based off of the critical on their weapon... Bicheon builds is a SKILL and a talent you have to learn... although they are one of the slowest leveling builds possible, in PvP, if you know how to use the build and your skills you will win.

What I mean by knowing how to use you build, is the order. You don't just press random keys, you need to learn the fastest way to start a chain and end it... Such as mine where I use;

Blood Chain ---> Ascension Chain ---> Heaven Chain

So far, that is the best COMBO CHAIN, I have made...

Here are un-deniable facts...

  • Bladers don't die...
  • Bladers can kill any build, but it isn't a quick kill...
  • With bad equipment, you will die...

Now blader won't die against mobs 15 levels higher with NPC gear, but in PvP they will. Right now I have one of the best sets at level 58, and I can tank lvl. 74 mobs, I might make a video of it soon...

So, to all those people who think you can beat a blader, think again and come fight me... :) I have amazing equipment and will own just about any build, except for a few European builds.

you're talking so much shit, it's incredible. your only lvl 60 blader. most of us are 80 and playing sro for more than 2 years. you really think we don't know how to use skills? you don't even have the latest skills yet, so your experience is heavily modest. beside that, every build/weapons got only a few really usefull skills. with your experience, you know almost nothing about pvp at really high lvl. though im glaive now, i was a blader myself. and i fought so many lvl 80 fully farmed bladers. their gears didnt suck and my dont suck too. so stop talking shit and listen to the people, who got a year or more experience than u.


+1 hahah i was lv 80 full farmed blader bow and glaive even though i loved my blader so much it couldnt kill you think the new 100 chains would kill? i think not dull fear and stun wont make it a killer it will make s/s a super killer

bow i didnt like because even after monster crits it was still hard to kill other pure str bows attacks look strong but it still takes time to cast thats why people pot back their life amd the kb combos when you use them your enemys life is back up 100% lol

now i am back to glaive it will always be the best all rounder i dont care what people say good in groups and solo decent grind speed not like a blader i had a had time farming him god 98878751512515 sp and it grind so damn slow

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I will give a shorts answer, yes they own! :twisted:
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Bounzzer wrote:I will give a shorts answer, yes they own! :twisted:


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