Are Bladers Good At Lv80 Cap? Lv 90?

Takunya · Post by **Takunya** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 7:10 pm

bladers are always good. but they have to equip an ownage weapon to be able to kill. lvl doesnt matter xD

FiReDRaGoN · Post by **FiReDRaGoN** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 7:39 pm

vanom please your the one full of sht I HAVE MAXED STATS on my gear and 22k? no i dont think so even with glavie passive i dont have 22k

obviously your a low level i see so gtfo of my thread as you have insulted me first

and thanks to the rest of the people who posted and forgot to mention i will be a blader again

pantrofl · Post by **pantrofl** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 8:39 pm

Im lvl 72 and i can tank str bladers lvl 75 + (72 +5 blades) .. im int hybrid protector user..

FuryAngle · Post by **FuryAngle** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 9:02 pm

vanom wrote:<<edit: quote removed. -SG>>

I dont htink you have anyright to cal lsomebody childish when yyou are the one that is insulting them in childish manners, both of you seem like teens in puberty. Stop insulting an blabing on. And its imposible to have 22+k hp. A level 80 pure str glavier has little over 18.8k hp without gear, and i doubt its possible to get 3.2k hp on your gear.

Anyway. Bladers are only tankers if they have a bad wepon. On occasion you find a good blader who isnt all about KD/stab, they have techqnigue and skills, after all kd/stab never kills an opponent the same level, when you kd and run for the stab, the opponent always repots and is back up with full health.

vanom · Post by **vanom** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 1:02 am

dude, im just going to say this a last time. maybe i was wrong about adding hp to some of the gears. but this does not change the fact, that bladers are tankers and not killers. i mentioned that above several times. whether 22k or only 19k hp, the little dam of a blade hurts no one.

concerning the insult: i never insulted the thread starter, b4 he called me dumbass, just because he does not know what to answer to my post. if the thread starter calls me dumbass, he ist just a little jerk, that doesn't have any manners and i won't stay there and try to convince him with productive hints. if u start to use inappropriate words, just because u don't know what to answer, ur just ridiculous.

@threadstarter: if u have been a blader till lvl 67 and still don't know, whether a blade can kill, then u should think about urself. 67 is pretty high and should give some indication. you should learn some manners and not insult ppl, if u don't have a better answer. i'm looking forward to seeing ur answer. i really wonder, if u can give appropriate answers without using insulting words.

Sin · Post by **Sin** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 1:15 am

Please. Stop. Flaming.

Or something bad will happen.

FiReDRaGoN · Post by **FiReDRaGoN** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 2:21 am

vanom wrote:
FiReDRaGoN wrote:lol crit 100 on shield doesnt make you FULLY immune to crits mind you that sht hardly matters

HARDLY matters? ur just talking shit dude. try to crit me with my 22k hp. u cant take more than 7k hp away with ur little dam. and u maybe crit 1 time of 15 hits. thats just LOL

how about that for one? "your just talking sht dude?" you act like your the pimp of the server

believe me if i am blader i will kill you

judaiskariot · Post by **judaiskariot** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 12:44 pm

I dont htink you have anyright to cal lsomebody childish when yyou are the one that is insulting them in childish manners, both of you seem like teens in puberty. Stop insulting an blabing on. And its imposible to have 22+k hp. A level 80 pure str glavier has little over 18.8k hp without gear, and i doubt its possible to get 3.2k hp on your gear.

As much as maybe dont like FuryAngle for some past dissidences he is right so listen to him.
Bladers are ultimate tankers and allmost imposible to kill on high lvls. And all builds need good gear and not only bladers and i dont know what sosun set and weapon you have and what Bladers did you fight (maybe full of NPC stuf lol)..
Only thing that suc.ks with bladers is that they lvl slow in the begining..

And please dont think that if you are "loud" and insult people makes you right (when people are insulting and yeling it only means that their "evidences" are full of holes and not true)..

HARDLY matters? ur just talking shit dude. try to crit me with my 22k hp. u cant take more than 7k hp away with ur little dam. and u maybe crit 1 time of 15 hits. thats just LOL

and what is that for weapon??? NPC blade crit 1??

FaTiE · Post by **FaTiE** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 1:12 pm

people dont say that bladers cant kill anything...would joymax allow such a thing.. especcialy when there are SO MUCH bladers.. just get a nice blade with a nice crit and youll be able to own

edit*

vanom dont claim that bladers cant kill you, your probably a blader hater with you *22k hp* liar

vanom · Post by **vanom** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 2:24 pm

as i said, come on troy and try kill me. i laugh at u guys. btw: "cuchulainn" as one of the famous bladers even says bladers can't kill (look above) and i fought so many bladers. btw: i once was a blader, so i know what im talking about.

but its not my problem anyway. im happy with my glaive and also making a hybrid s/s. so if u children are really satisfied with ur blades, then just shut up and we see eachother at lvl 80. its that easy. its not me that cannot decided what weapon to use (wink at threadstarter), though he has been a blader till lvl 67 :banghead:

threadstarter, say something about that, try it without insult. im pretty wondering, come on

blader4ever · Post by **blader4ever** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:34 pm

vanom wrote:
Dempster wrote:22k hp... liar a glaiver with absolutely perfect gear would have 20967 hp, even an hp scroll wouldn't take you to 22k , But i do not see how you consider bladers weak, even IF it was true that a blader can't kill a glaiver of equal lvl, are you saying the glaive will ever kill the blader?

well, can u read? if yes, then read my posts ABOVE. i clearly said that bladers cant kill but also cant be killed.

how 22k? get on every gear and jewelry +5 str, then on every gear +400 hp and add the heuksal passive. but i already noticed that ur noob so i do the calculation for u:
full str at lvl 80: 16060 hp, + 50 str (6 gears, 3 jewelry, 1 weapon) = 18450, + 400 hp on every gear (multipy with 6) = 20850 and finally + heuksal passive = 21928 hp, so around 22k. if u can READ, u would see that i wrote above (1st post, just to help u), that u can have ABOUT 22k. i think 21928 hp is pretty near to that. when ur equipped with a shield, u even can have more hp.

so just stop flaming with unqualified comments and do ur homework 1st and don't waste our time.

ps: i really don't care, if u believe our posts or not. it's not my problem anyway, when hit with ur lvl 80 blade on other chars like shit and they don't even move, lol.

Last time i checked you could use 4 jewelery... LOL... 2 rings, 1 neckles and earings

vanom · Post by **vanom** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 6:05 pm

lol, this is so evident. no productive description, why bladers could kill, but only distraction to other things. thx guys, this convinces me enough, that everyone of u blades just want to be a killing char, but ur not. otherwise u would tell me why u can kill.

cu in game and changing from blade to other weapons, when u wanna kill but can't.

judaiskariot · Post by **judaiskariot** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 7:31 pm

400 hp on every gear (multipy with 6). get on every gear and jewelry +5 str

bwuahahahahahah another one is tempering with the evidence to make his point.

are you for real???? HP you can put ONLY on head, chest and legs.

So no 22k and busted....

And please try puting +5 str on every item at lvl 80 are you some kind of a bilionare or just alchemy lucky ???

KutsarA · Post by **KutsarA** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 1:42 pm

bladers vs bladers/glaviers = pot war

bladers vs int spears = bladers win

bladers vs int s/s = depends on KD and crit (but bladers win most of the time)

bladers vs archers = haven't tried it yet

**this is based on my pvp experience, i pvp with players with higher level than me** (level 74-75 vs level 78-80; i have yet to try it at level 76)

**this is just when the other player is using +5 weapon, will wait til i fight a sosun user ^^ **

PsYch008 · Post by **PsYch008** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 7:39 pm

matronyx wrote:........... sigh i come back to see whats up on the forums and still blade vs glaive. lol
vanom ... tell me how its possible to get hp400 on shoulder,wrists,and shoes ???? Thought HP stones were restricted to hat,chest, and trousers.

owned.

PsYch008 · Post by **PsYch008** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 7:43 pm

oh, and vanom, you are so annoying, go back to your 22k hp and leave the forum.

vanom · Post by **vanom** » Sat Feb 24, 2007 1:38 am

u have nothing more to say, but i was wrong about adding hp to gears?

22k +/- 1k hp has so much to do with killing power of blades? if ur that experienced, then say something about the topic. no better answer just that? say something about the killing power of blades. don't repeat the same shit over and over again. say something about the topic. im waiting.

Da_Realest · Post by **Da_Realest** » Sat Feb 24, 2007 4:01 am

I don't think bladers can kill anything at 80 cap. Well, the level 80 bladers I seen can't kill anything. At level 90 cap, bladers don't exist. You will see no leveling 90's pvping with a blade in ksro unless its some kind of seal weapon. If they are using a blade then its for tanking purposes.The bladers leveled up heuskal to kill.

MastaChiefX · Post by **MastaChiefX** » Sat Feb 24, 2007 4:13 am

I need those stamina stones on my wrist, shoulders, feet, rings, earings, and necklace. And str 6(120%). Then I will have 25K HP.

Please stop making up shit.

metroAID · Post by **metroAID** » Sat Feb 24, 2007 4:53 am

watch some pvp vids.

cuchulainn hits it right

we dont need to generalize that all bladers are created equal.
but the fact remains.

bladers barely kills. and they are hard to be killed (pots war for that matter)

no need to flame. its just a game fact.

HertogJan · Post by **HertogJan** » Sat Feb 24, 2007 1:23 pm

In the end it is all about the fun. If youre a blader and having fun, good for you. I personally hate bladers with there stupid kd.

Besides that, there is something wrong with every build. Nukers die to easy, bow users arent strong enough. Glaviers have no shield. Bladers cant kill. If you have a good group of friends you will ownage. If I go and thief with 1 nuker and 1 blader we own about everything of our lvl regardless of the gear. Blader attacks + tanks, we back up and finish it.

Know youre strenght and weaknesses and you will be good with about any build.

judaiskariot · Post by **judaiskariot** » Sun Feb 25, 2007 9:56 am

In the end it is all about the fun. If youre a blader and having fun, good for you. I personally hate bladers with there stupid kd.

lol true..

but in the end this game is 80% of grinding/farming so it means you kill milions and milions of mobs.
And bladers are realy easy to ks. i can ks up to 7 or 8 lvl blader abowe me.
So the question is do you want to have a hard time achiving lvl 80 so in the end you can PVP and turn it to a pot fight or you want to enjoy and still be able to tank and be strong..

So go on glavie.
Bladers are first row tankers nothing much. Like bowman (last row) they need good backup. and to kill something is very hard for them it all goes to endurance and how many pots or nerves you have. All is team work, but in the end bladers only look cool and have visualy great combos. nothing more (at least on high lvls)..

5m0k3 · Post by **5m0k3** » Sun Feb 25, 2007 3:11 pm

vanom wrote:
Dempster wrote:22k hp... liar a glaiver with absolutely perfect gear would have 20967 hp, even an hp scroll wouldn't take you to 22k , But i do not see how you consider bladers weak, even IF it was true that a blader can't kill a glaiver of equal lvl, are you saying the glaive will ever kill the blader?

well, can u read? if yes, then read my posts ABOVE. i clearly said that bladers cant kill but also cant be killed.

how 22k? get on every gear and jewelry +5 str, then on every gear +400 hp and add the heuksal passive. but i already noticed that ur noob so i do the calculation for u:
full str at lvl 80: 16060 hp, + 50 str (6 gears, 3 jewelry, 1 weapon) = 18450, + 400 hp on every gear (multipy with 6) = 20850 and finally + heuksal passive = 21928 hp, so around 22k. if u can READ, u would see that i wrote above (1st post, just to help u), that u can have ABOUT 22k. i think 21928 hp is pretty near to that. when ur equipped with a shield, u even can have more hp.

so just stop flaming with unqualified comments and do ur homework 1st and don't waste our time.

ps: i really don't care, if u believe our posts or not. it's not my problem anyway, when hit with ur lvl 80 blade on other chars like shit and they don't even move, lol.

you can only put 400 hp on 3 gears lol head torso and legs -.-

xRecoil · Post by **xRecoil** » Sun Feb 25, 2007 6:16 pm

cuchulainn wrote:Blader=impossible to be killed
Blader=impossible to kill

It's a trade off, pick what you want.

Cuch wouldn't it be based off who runs out of pots first?

Just sayin ^_^.

eaglehawk · Post by **eaglehawk** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 12:57 am

i have pvped with two fully farmed lvl 80 bladers, i am lvl 78 and i cannot kill them but neither can they kill me. one is a sosun blader, if i equip sword shield he cant kill me but he has come close to killing me when he crits (not very often). the other i mentioned in the previous post has a 72+7 blade, i can tank him even when i use spear, his damage and crits r just too low.

:.:.: · Post by **:.:.:** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 8:08 am

xRecoil wrote:
cuchulainn wrote:Blader=impossible to be killed
Blader=impossible to kill

It's a trade off, pick what you want.

Cuch wouldn't it be based off who runs out of pots first?

Just sayin ^_^.

maybe
but a blader will run out of mp pots first then the glaive will run out of hp

Dempster · Post by **Dempster** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 1:51 pm

blader4ever wrote:
vanom wrote:
Dempster wrote:22k hp... liar a glaiver with absolutely perfect gear would have 20967 hp, even an hp scroll wouldn't take you to 22k , But i do not see how you consider bladers weak, even IF it was true that a blader can't kill a glaiver of equal lvl, are you saying the glaive will ever kill the blader?

well, can u read? if yes, then read my posts ABOVE. i clearly said that bladers cant kill but also cant be killed.

how 22k? get on every gear and jewelry +5 str, then on every gear +400 hp and add the heuksal passive. but i already noticed that ur noob so i do the calculation for u:
full str at lvl 80: 16060 hp, + 50 str (6 gears, 3 jewelry, 1 weapon) = 18450, + 400 hp on every gear (multipy with 6) = 20850 and finally + heuksal passive = 21928 hp, so around 22k. if u can READ, u would see that i wrote above (1st post, just to help u), that u can have ABOUT 22k. i think 21928 hp is pretty near to that. when ur equipped with a shield, u even can have more hp.

so just stop flaming with unqualified comments and do ur homework 1st and don't waste our time.

ps: i really don't care, if u believe our posts or not. it's not my problem anyway, when hit with ur lvl 80 blade on other chars like shit and they don't even move, lol.

Last time i checked you could use 4 jewelery... LOL... 2 rings, 1 neckles and earings

simply a typo, the hp numbers are right

Dempster · Post by **Dempster** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 1:52 pm

5m0k3 wrote:
vanom wrote:
Dempster wrote:22k hp... liar a glaiver with absolutely perfect gear would have 20967 hp, even an hp scroll wouldn't take you to 22k , But i do not see how you consider bladers weak, even IF it was true that a blader can't kill a glaiver of equal lvl, are you saying the glaive will ever kill the blader?

well, can u read? if yes, then read my posts ABOVE. i clearly said that bladers cant kill but also cant be killed.

how 22k? get on every gear and jewelry +5 str, then on every gear +400 hp and add the heuksal passive. but i already noticed that ur noob so i do the calculation for u:
full str at lvl 80: 16060 hp, + 50 str (6 gears, 3 jewelry, 1 weapon) = 18450, + 400 hp on every gear (multipy with 6) = 20850 and finally + heuksal passive = 21928 hp, so around 22k. if u can READ, u would see that i wrote above (1st post, just to help u), that u can have ABOUT 22k. i think 21928 hp is pretty near to that. when ur equipped with a shield, u even can have more hp.

so just stop flaming with unqualified comments and do ur homework 1st and don't waste our time.

ps: i really don't care, if u believe our posts or not. it's not my problem anyway, when hit with ur lvl 80 blade on other chars like shit and they don't even move, lol.

you can only put 400 hp on 3 gears lol head torso and legs -.-

you make me very very angry, of course you can only add it on 3 peices, you #)*&%)@%in noob. go check the numbers if you doubt it.