Glavie or Blade

[Feataler]

Dude like I hope you know how slow the bladders can be.

Str glavie is best, maybe doesn't pwn as much in PvP and doesn't have 1337 combos like the blade, but it's better overall. Specially at PvE.

Just think about it, as a bladder you will get KSed by every other build, you will take ages to kill grey mobs, and you'll probably never get to lvl 60...

Like stay glavie, it levels faster, hits higher and pwns enough at PvP.

[Manowar]

Dude like I hope you know how slow the bladders can be.

Str glavie is best, maybe doesn't pwn as much in PvP and doesn't have 1337 combos like the blade, but it's better overall. Specially at PvE.

Just think about it, as a bladder you will get KSed by every other build, you will take ages to kill grey mobs, and you'll probably never get to lvl 60...

Like stay glavie, it levels faster, hits higher and pwns enough at PvP.

Actually vs giants most often you will be able to ks other builds. Also from my experience once you get some of the mobbing aoe skills you should be able to grind as fast as a pure str glaive would. Even before then it doesn't take "ages" to kill grey mobs and from my experience I could kill orange mobs within an imbue time. True bladers are a pretty slow leveling build but they aren't that slow.

[raged!]

Bladers can die, and they can't kill (most of the time)

[XCaosX]

get lv 80as glavier..
then switch to blade:D

[BloodOwnzzz]

The thing about bladers is this...

1.) Their new high damage comes from status effects. We also have this new thing called Clerics who can give 100% immunity to all status effects EXCEPT for lvl 80 Poison from a Dagger Rogue with Poison Powerup.

2.) Bladers are the slowest grind and of any build costs the most SP. I don't care what you say about AOE hits because until it has about 8+ AOE attacks it will still have to use Combos and Smashing Skills. For level 80 the SP is 453k for max masteries.

3.) Bladers attacks are highly concentrated for 1 opponent at a time. Glaviers have quick 1 or 2 hit attacks which allow Glaivers to switch targets on demand. Where knockdowns and combos take commitment to 1 target.

4.) If your status effects don't hit you are stuck with no possibilities to kill the other person.

[BaronSengir]

with cleric its not 100% immune you can still status ppl it just takes longer

[BloodOwnzzz]

Bleed Impotent and Divison are % status'. Cleric prevents all status' unless they are over a 100% chance, which isnt possible, or are a higher Effect number, which is only possible with Poison Powerup and Maxed Poison. You'll notice that Bleed Impotent and Division do not create a status number.

And the real reason why people want you to be Blader is because they want people to make the build they cannot.

[BaronSengir]

wrong

you can still status people as i said it takes longer to put the status on

[Alterran]

ok first of i read all these posts and i must say some ppl rnt wrong first of im a lvl 64 blader ive been blader since lvl 45 i was glaiver b4 that now for the sp req just go from lvl 42-52 with a 4 gap and ull be set for 70 skills now about the pvping i was lvl 40 when i went thief but i wasnt really able to kill anyone till lvl 55 thats when theifing got better at lvl 60 i jacked a 5* loot and made 803k which was just 2 weeks ago so i suggest you do go blader and btw at 90 cap bladers get a skill that decreases phy def of shield and adds a load of phy attck i believe it was 5200 phy attck if u had a sun +7 shield so wtih a normal shield it would be somewhere around 3k which isnt bad at all so again choose blade

[GatoradeR]

I think you should go blade.Mostly because it's the rarest class of the chinese

what is that anime that ur using as ur avatar? i can't remember the name

I'm having that same problem... i can't remember where it is from

It's Full Metal Panic, although, I haven't really watched that one myself xD

[Mefra]

Well, since they're both good builds, just pick the one you like. And since you're already lvl 37 you probably like the heuksal skills otherwise you would have already given up on that one.

If you wanna switch remember that heuksal and bicheon skills play a lot different. As mentioned before, bicheon is really concentrated on 1 mob/character.

[ASHero]

Glaive is really fun, and I heard they crit for a whole bunch, so I'm thinking I'm gonna stick with glaive. Maybe we'll get some good skills too at the 90 cap

[BloodOwnzzz]

ok first of i read all these posts and i must say some ppl rnt wrong first of im a lvl 64 blader ive been blader since lvl 45 i was glaiver b4 that now for the sp req just go from lvl 42-52 with a 4 gap and ull be set for 70 skills now about the pvping i was lvl 40 when i went thief but i wasnt really able to kill anyone till lvl 55 thats when theifing got better at lvl 60 i jacked a 5* loot and made 803k which was just 2 weeks ago so i suggest you do go blader and btw at 90 cap bladers get a skill that decreases phy def of shield and adds a load of phy attck i believe it was 5200 phy attck if u had a sun +7 shield so wtih a normal shield it would be somewhere around 3k which isnt bad at all so again choose blade

Unless theres going to be a 1000 cap and the skill multiplies physical damage to you by 4 then it will never hit 5200 boosted phy attack.(And yes I mean 1000)

http://www.konpaku.com.br/silkroad/habi ... &skill=879

Oh and its full immunity. It changes the percent to 0. I don't see how you are going to get a status effect on with a 0% chance other than waiting for Holy Word/Spell to come down.

[Sealed]

In kSRO forums glaviers are the best at lvl 100 cap.

[tian]

i had the same issue

i coulodnt decide but decided to stay as glaive

........critical.........lol

[Malicious]

The thing about bladers is this...

1.) Their new high damage comes from status effects. We also have this new thing called Clerics who can give 100% immunity to all status effects EXCEPT for lvl 80 Poison from a Dagger Rogue with Poison Powerup.

2.) Bladers are the slowest grind and of any build costs the most SP. I don't care what you say about AOE hits because until it has about 8+ AOE attacks it will still have to use Combos and Smashing Skills. For level 80 the SP is 453k for max masteries.

3.) Bladers attacks are highly concentrated for 1 opponent at a time. Glaviers have quick 1 or 2 hit attacks which allow Glaivers to switch targets on demand. Where knockdowns and combos take commitment to 1 target.

4.) If your status effects don't hit you are stuck with no possibilities to kill the other person.

If you are PvPing 1 vs 1 and you need a Cleric you are pathetic. Plain and simple. Can't handle the other one by yourself? Don't fight him/her.

[Hime_Sama]

If you are PvPing 1 vs 1 and you need a Cleric you are pathetic. Plain and simple. Can't handle the other one by yourself? Don't fight him/her

LOL !!!!!!!! very well put, well right now i've been doing the grinding at at the Bandits
for 3 days, 1k aday is about my average though atelast half of that is because i used my
noob gold ticket. i figured out i either need to sp farm 250k or sp farm 81,326sp and 9 gap
to lvl 41 than close gap completely. and to be honest Crits are nice beautiful things
and do huge damage.. but seeing up to three "BLOCKS" in a row
is much prefered for me.

And Malicious, thank you for advising me on the mountain shield books, i thought it was only a
phys. defense skill without magic damage included

[Malicious]

If you are PvPing 1 vs 1 and you need a Cleric you are pathetic. Plain and simple. Can't handle the other one by yourself? Don't fight him/her

LOL !!!!!!!! very well put, well right now i've been doing the grinding at at the Bandits
for 3 days, 1k aday is about my average though atelast half of that is because i used my
noob gold ticket. i figured out i either need to sp farm 250k or sp farm 81,326sp and 9 gap
to lvl 41 than close gap completely. and to be honest Crits are nice beautiful things
and do huge damage.. but seeing up to three "BLOCKS" in a row
is much prefered for me.

And Malicious, thank you for advising me on the mountain shield books, i thought it was only a
phys. defense skill without magic damage included

You're welcome. Always glad to help. I say you check this site out. It's completely safe, you can ask other members here. If you don't understand how to use it I can explain through PMs. This gives you details on ALL skills. Maybe you can get in dept with the Force Blader skills. Read and plan out your build carefully and you will become successfull.

Site:
http://www.konpaku.com.br/silkroad/habi ... serie=2572

[Hime_Sama]

are the BR skills in the shield technique (2nd & 4th book) book worth it?

also, is it possible say you're a lvl 80 char so you have a lvl 9 iron wall shied, & you have the new blader skill (Shieldpd) could you combine the two, as in use both at the saem time
Aswell as would the 915 phys defense be enough to make up for the 83% loss in Shield defense?

[Manowar]

are the BR skills in the shield technique (2nd & 4th book) book worth it?

also, is it possible say you're a lvl 80 char so you have a lvl 9 iron wall shied, & you have the new blader skill (Shieldpd) could you combine the two, as in use both at the saem time
Aswell as would the 915 phys defense be enough to make up for the 83% loss in Shield defense?

The extra defense from the iron wall shield skill more than offsets the defense from the new shield skill. To give you an idea why it does is my 72 +5 shield has 102.7 physical defense so if you take about 83% of that you would only lose ~85 defense.

As for the BR skills, they aren't worth getting. Reason is the extra block rate only applies to physical attacks and I know from experience to be true.

[BloodOwnzzz]

The thing about bladers is this...

1.) Their new high damage comes from status effects. We also have this new thing called Clerics who can give 100% immunity to all status effects EXCEPT for lvl 80 Poison from a Dagger Rogue with Poison Powerup.

2.) Bladers are the slowest grind and of any build costs the most SP. I don't care what you say about AOE hits because until it has about 8+ AOE attacks it will still have to use Combos and Smashing Skills. For level 80 the SP is 453k for max masteries.

3.) Bladers attacks are highly concentrated for 1 opponent at a time. Glaviers have quick 1 or 2 hit attacks which allow Glaivers to switch targets on demand. Where knockdowns and combos take commitment to 1 target.

4.) If your status effects don't hit you are stuck with no possibilities to kill the other person.

If you are PvPing 1 vs 1 and you need a Cleric you are pathetic. Plain and simple. Can't handle the other one by yourself? Don't fight him/her.

Um ok whatever you say. I could seriously care less how a builds acts in 1v1 because 1v1 is shit anyway. What are you gonna do in war when you lose? Say, WELL I'D BEAT YOU 1V1 ANYWAY!!! And even in 1v1 you just buff BOTH with Str, Int, Phy, Mag and Holy Word/Spell for a better PvP representation. Seriously though PvP is based off triangular conflict which takes more than 1 person. Don't base PvP off pussy 1v1.

[mcmurdoc]

Glavie FTW

[robby]

Just choose what you like, no one can predict what will own in the end, so why not enjoy getting there? Their is no guarantee on which build will dominate later on, and the fact is people talk about fighting on an equal grounds to determine which build is the best, but what are the chances of that? A fully farmed STR Blade with Full Blues versus a fully farmed STR Glavie, or an NPC STR Blade versus a NPC Glaive. The fact is you will be probably never fight someone on equal footing as you,so you won't know who is the best. Just choose what you like and don't turn back.

But IMO I would choose a blader, cuz you guys look FLY

[bumbum33]

aaaaaaaaa

[Hime_Sama]

well I'm currently lvl 24, i farmed pathetic cause i couldn't find anyone
to pwrfarm me well. but i got 4.5k sp and i was able to max all skills to my lvl right now
& have 500sp left (woot). i really love how they play and i am not going to lie
I ADORE the Kd,STab combo for bots who try to KS.
this really seems a VERY good build and i find (though it is lower lvl) i still lvl like a Glavie. though i also admit i have VERY nice gear XD i still admit i don't hit like a glavie
but when surounded by 5 mobs and i get 5 "BLOCKS" in a row
i can't help but be thankful for the shield

[CZAR]

First...i am new to these forums BUT the one person i can never seem to agree with is Bloodownz, that is until now.

@Malicious:"the true worth of ANY build is not putting on a cape and saying 1,2,3...go"
@Blood: you dont have to get personal when arguing your point.

I have hit cap finally last week or so...level 80 FULLY FARMED glaiver (not glavie but glaive). FIRE 80 GLAIVE 80 LIGHT 70 ICE 30 FORCE 30...just tried force for the extra mp..its not bad but not great either.

The comparison at 80 cap is blader > glaive...no matter WHAT you do you wont beat a blader unless the blader takes off his pots. The longer you fight a blader you will realise that when your pills run out (not your pots) you are going to inevitably die. Now you can all guess what it will be like at 90 cap and compare to cSRO or w/e but at 80 cap it is what it is. Another build you wont beat straight up at 80 cap is a 2handed sword/cleric. Thats all i'll say for 1v1.

SRO is based on triangular conflict..not 1v1 pvp...with the intro of FW it adds a new dimension and enhances the need for teamwork. One thing i will agree with Malicious about is that bladers are meant for FORCE. Good to have a medic who can tank a TON of dmg and deal some also...thats why i've been farming one the past few weeks

[BloodOwnzzz]

@Blood: you dont have to get personal when arguing your point...

...SRO is based on triangular conflict..not 1v1 pvp

First off I'm not getting personal.

And secondly you agree with me. So why should you care?

[Shynygamie]

glavie is for damage and some tanking, blade is for tanking and some damage