the weapon for my build

ontaria · Post by **ontaria** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 1:43 pm

I'm currently farming an int hybrid at ongs and have an 85-86% mag balance. What weapon would you reccomend for me to use?

I know they say anywhere from 80-85% use spear and 85-90% use s/s, but I'm kind of in the middle. I hate dying a lot but I like the nukes and damage! I also would really prefer the fire tree over the ice for the 90 cap, but I'm lowering phys defense for more damage. Is this okay?

Braka · Post by **Braka** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 3:00 pm

if u have euros buffing u the deffence issue isnt a problem, u can go ether spear or s/s

spear is good damage but has not got status skills like s/s, the status skills on s/s will gives u around 2-4k extra dmg per hit, but remember s/s requires alot more sp then spear and u get hp passive with spear

ontaria · Post by **ontaria** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 3:24 pm

Yes, I do have euro's buffing me so thanks for clearing that up! But I still am unsure of what weapon to use

Glavie's Girl · Post by **Glavie's Girl** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 4:49 pm

Which weapon do you like the most?

spear has an hp passive increase.

shield has block.

ontaria · Post by **ontaria** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 5:16 pm

So both weapons would fit my build well?

I'm just concerned about spear dying a lot, but i guess the passive helps
And for s/s I'm worried about the low HP because I don't have that passive

and overall I want a build that can dish out the damage, but still take a fair amount in

destructionmama · Post by **destructionmama** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 7:17 pm

you can't have both lol

a build that doesn't die and do good damage = GM lol

I recommand spear, they have good damage and the heuksal passive will get your hp up

blackh4t · Post by **blackh4t** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 7:49 pm

If you ask me I would pick s/s over Spear ... But its just my style xD

You will have nukes and you will have defense of shield ...

ontaria · Post by **ontaria** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 8:14 pm

Well it looks like it's evenly divided....

okay so here are the pros and cons

Spear Pros:
More Mag Damage
More Phys Damage
More HP

Cons:
Less defense
Can't block
Can't use status effect skills

S/S Pros:
More defense
Block
Status effects

Cons:
Less damage
Less HP than spear

So...will I die faster with s/s if I'm doing less damage (with less hp without a lucky block) than a spear with the hueksal passive?
I guess I have to look at other things besides PvE though...

Which would do better in PvP against the other with the same equipment/npc weapons? 85% spear vs 85% S/S

Which would better for the upcoming "fort seiges"? Would it be better to use spear and hueksal spears for grinding and use a s/s for mass PvP wars with just nukes (no bicheon skills)

Swindler · Post by **Swindler** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 8:55 pm

spear/lighting/ice/ FTW.

noobert mclagg · Post by **noobert mclagg** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 10:13 pm

I would go spear the passive will help a lot. the fan spear moves will help with magical def and u will do more damage with spear and u can stun!!!

blader3 · Post by **blader3** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 1:59 pm

HejsaN wrote:spear/lighting/ice/ FTW.

DUDE YEAH !!!

Glavie's Girl · Post by **Glavie's Girl** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 2:33 pm

Doesnt anyone worry about being immune to status anymore?

ontaria · Post by **ontaria** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 8:38 pm

Okay well I decided to go spear hybrid(light/ice is my build)

I think INTs are more concerned about the snow shield and defense than status immunity. I know I have clerics running around with me so this isn't really a big deal, but I think surviving>immunity, even though immunity does help you survive...

Ell · Post by **Ell** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 9:36 pm

Glavie's Girl wrote:Doesnt anyone worry about being immune to status anymore?

You can still be immune with 30 fire. And fog tablets drop like rabbit poo.

glavie · Post by **glavie** » Fri Dec 07, 2007 2:08 am

ontaria wrote:So...will I die faster with s/s if I'm doing less damage (with less hp without a lucky block) than a spear with the hueksal passive?

S/S has a much higher survivability rate the spear. There are a few reasons.

BR on a shield is a %. That means a BR 18 shield will block 18 hits out of 100. This gives you time to pot between taking damage.
Don't forget your BR passive from the Bichon tree.

Also castle wall gives you the physical defense that ints lack.

You have knockdown which has 50% chance of success, and you can spam 1 book after another.

Oh and lets say you block a hit that would have stunned you....Now you can keep fighting cause you weren't stunned.

Which would do better in PvP against the other with the same equipment/npc weapons? 85% spear vs 85% S/S

Ultimately it would come down to luck. Who knocks down, or stuns first. Or maybe the magic defense skill from the hueksal tree might give them the advantage. But the 2nd book of castle shield increases your effective block rate to around 50%. This would reduce the chance of the spear user getting stun or knock back.

So obviously I am biased towards s/s, but hey I backed it up. I also know that hybrid spear is a very good build so to each his own.

Oh and you will have trouble running snow shield past 40%(lvl60) by being hybrid without shield.

devilti · Post by **devilti** » Fri Dec 07, 2007 4:13 am

no spear...