ice glavie vs fire glavie?

Ice_Warrior · Post by **Ice_Warrior** » Wed May 31, 2006 9:07 pm

and wot made u think ppl use frost nova wind in PvP, i'm ice glavie and i can cast the effect by linking 4 hit and 5 hit combos and also cast it by just using skills like SSS, ghost and dragon. Maybe its immune to frost nova wind and dem freezing skills, but definately no use to the imbue. Cz my bro has 100% freezing and frostbite on his jewelry but he says its effective against skills like frost nova wind but no use against imbue cz its too constant.

Ice_Warrior · Post by **Ice_Warrior** » Wed May 31, 2006 9:16 pm

i'vve tryed getting 100% burn status thing b4, but they wer like lvl 20 jewelry and still i got burn status and took a bit of dmg but den it took it off. the status can effect u but its just dat its immediately took off.

ShizKnight · Post by **ShizKnight** » Wed May 31, 2006 9:23 pm

Here's an easy way to test it: Get at least level 5 Fire Shield-Phoenix and get someone with lvl 1 Ice Imbue to constantly hit you. If you never get frostbite/frozen, I was right, if you DO, then I was wrong.

Ice_Warrior · Post by **Ice_Warrior** » Wed May 31, 2006 9:29 pm

lol, the effect taken from the shield is greater then the imbue, how can it be casted. and i'm talking about 100% status thing, its diff from the shield, the shield lowers the effect of ur effect which means u can use smaller pills, the 100% means how much of the effect is removed, but for it to remove the effect it has to be casted on u b4 it can be removed, it cant remove sumthing dats not der, so dat like 1 sec effect can slow ur whole skill down and that 1 sec freeze can cancle ur whole skill, the effect may not last but 1 sec is enuf for the effect to do its job like slower ur skill and cancle ur skill.

ShizKnight · Post by **ShizKnight** » Wed May 31, 2006 9:31 pm

Yeah, I know. I meant unfreezable if you COMBINE Freeze reduce, which will lower the effect, with Fire Shield, so there IS no effect. And, if it gets removed immediately by the two, it won't HAPPEN so it's like the freeze never took place.

Ice_Warrior · Post by **Ice_Warrior** » Wed May 31, 2006 9:49 pm

but u sed having 100% of freezing reduce jewelry, there will be nuthing to reduce if nuthing is casted on u in the first place, i kno its immediately removed, but that little amount of time of casting the effect is enuf to slow or cancle the whole skill. But just less effective, but i dnt see ppl using jewelry 10 lvls lower den dem just for the freezing reduce cz dat means i be doing more dmg instead.

Misaklo · Post by **Misaklo** » Wed May 31, 2006 9:59 pm

Ice_Warrior wrote:but u sed having 100% of freezing reduce jewelry, there will be nuthing to reduce if nuthing is casted on u in the first place, i kno its immediately removed, but that little amount of time of casting the effect is enuf to slow or cancle the whole skill. But just less effective, but i dnt see ppl using jewelry 10 lvls lower den dem just for the freezing reduce cz dat means i be doing more dmg instead.

WILL YOU SHUT THE ..... UP!!!!!!!!!!! YOU DIDN'T DO A TEST AND I'M 100% SURE OK. YouRE PISSING ME OFF TO HIGH HELL WITH JUST YOUR ENGLISH ALONE.

SPEND 10 MIL ON FROST/ FREEZE REDUCE JEWELRY AND GET FIRE SHIELD TO GET 100%, THEN TELL SOME1 TO TRY TO FREEZE YOU. NOTHING WILL HAPPEN AT ALL!!!!!!!!!!

plz excuse me for this (not you ice_worrior mofo) but this had to be done. delete it if you wish.

Ice_Warrior · Post by **Ice_Warrior** » Wed May 31, 2006 10:00 pm

ok u think wot u like, but dats just my opinion, just keep our opinion to ourselves.

Misaklo · Post by **Misaklo** » Wed May 31, 2006 10:02 pm

Ice_Warrior wrote:ok u think wot u like, but dats just my opinion, just keep our opinion to ourselves.

GOD AT LEAST USE AN EXTRA KEYSTROKE TO TYPE "th" INSTEAD OF THAT "dat" SHIT

YOU ARE NOW MY MOST HATTED PERSON............................... EVER ACTUALLY

Ice_Warrior · Post by **Ice_Warrior** » Wed May 31, 2006 10:03 pm

1. its called english slang. 2.STFU MOANING SERIOUSLY WOT A WHYNING TWAT!

Misaklo · Post by **Misaklo** » Wed May 31, 2006 10:19 pm

and this ais a forum NOT msn don't use "slang" personnaly i use slang but that is just shit. go to off topic then under english and you will see what i mean

Post by **dom** » Wed May 31, 2006 11:22 pm

Ice_Warrior wrote:1. its called english slang

So you're a gangster? A gangster warrior?

Slang is something that's cultural. It' 100% oral, not written.

Now here's the dummy proof exercise: Reread what you write and pretend that you aren't a gangtser-want-to-be, you'll notice that "dat, dis, etc." sound stupid.

When you write stupid, we read stupid, so you sound stupid and lose all credibility.

Short-hand and "slang" are different things, don't mix them up.

Misaklo · Post by **Misaklo** » Wed May 31, 2006 11:26 pm

dom wrote:
Ice_Warrior wrote:1. its called english slang

So you're a gangster? A gangster warrior?

Slang is something that's cultural. It' 100% oral, not written.

Now here's the dummy proof exercise: Reread what you write and pretend that you aren't a gangtser-want-to-be, you'll notice that "dat, dis, etc." sound stupid.

When you write stupid, we read stupid, so you sound stupid and lose all credibility.

Short-hand and "slang" are different things, don't mix them up.

thank you dom. thank you very, very much

NoLimits · Post by **NoLimits** » Wed May 31, 2006 11:53 pm

Not taking any sides, but online chatting, IMing, and forums have definitely bred a habit of short abbreviated language (I wouldn't really call it slang) when typing/writing WHICH some people have even taken it farther by using "gangster-like" words because they're shorter. Like in real life, you don't normally hear people saying "afk" or "lol." Although in my opinion, excessive use of it is sorta annoying.

P.S. I'm actually reading this stuff because I have an interest in the subject being discussed, but I think it's gotten unconstructive towards the end.

Misaklo · Post by **Misaklo** » Wed May 31, 2006 11:56 pm

NoLimits wrote:Not taking any sides, but online chatting, IMing, and forums have definitely bred a habit of short abbreviated language (I wouldn't really call it slang) when typing/writing. Some people have even taken it farther by using "gangster-like" words because they're shorter. Like in real life, you don't normally hear people saying "afk" or "lol."

P.S. I'm actually reading this stuff because I have an interest in the subject being discussed, but I think it's gotten unconstructive towards the end.

and i agree with stuff like that wholey, infact i use things like that. however what he uses is just stupid. words like dat instead of that and dis instead of htis is just taking it past the limits

kitary · Post by **kitary** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 3:20 am

in order to win you must use more than just 1 force type ,
the truth is that a cold glaive can take all the same skills as the fire glaive
and fire glaive can take all the same skills as a cold glaive

So infact the 2 would be the same , except for the imbue

now sinds fire's bigger imbue damage would mean jack on a str char and sinds its damage over time is pilled away pretty freaking fast , i would have to go with the cold glaive , slow em , kill em , blah blah blah
multy task vital spot mussle in there if thay are to hard to kill
No str char thats build purely for 1 vs 1 is complete with out the vital spot series imo

Ice_Warrior · Post by **Ice_Warrior** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 10:15 am

Ok i'm sorry for calling it slang, but i don't see the problem of using things like dat instead of that, it's faster to type and when you read it, it just sounds the same so what's the problem, if you don't like it ignore it, in future i'll try my best not to do it, if it means life and death to you people.

Ice_Warrior · Post by **Ice_Warrior** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 10:16 am

and thanks Kitary for the advice i think i gonna go ice glavie but do ice glavies take a long time to kill pure ints and other pure strs'?

Ice_Warrior · Post by **Ice_Warrior** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 10:18 am

i'm only going to take up 1 imbue because our next level cap is gonna be 20 levels which will make it 90 i think, but no one is sure yet, if i take up 3 masteries , byt the time i hit 100 i would of used up all 300 skill points. I rather play the safe game ^^.

kitary · Post by **kitary** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 5:15 pm

Skills kinda stop at lvl 69 .. so having 90 cold mastery will be kinda pointless for a str , unless you realy realy realy want that 21% extra imbue damage on your imbue , .. a imbue thats already not realy that powerfull couse of your lower magic ballance , stuff like that is called diminishing returns , much like int builds taking fire phy damage up skills
sure thay help , but do you wanna pay 15k sp to gain 100 damage .. nah ..

Kew · Post by **Kew** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 11:54 pm

Ice_Warrior wrote:ok u think wot u like, but dats just my opinion, just keep our opinion to ourselves.

well, sry to say this, but its you flaming all other opinions

its really a 1min test needed. i do it tomorrow
i have lv2 Fire shield-Flower (-41 stat effect)
so i get someone to hit me with a lv1-3 ice imbue
i swich off autopill and well see

Ice_Warrior · Post by **Ice_Warrior** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 1:42 am

ok w/e i'm the bad guy, but arguing over fire and ice glavie is like arguing iver ice blade, ders no rite or wrong answer.

Ice_Warrior · Post by **Ice_Warrior** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 1:47 am

The reason i went for ice glavie is that everyone has gone fire glavie, so there's no point having the same build as half of the server cz dats just stupid, so many ppl have gone fire glavie, each time u go do a job u always end up fighting another fire glavie, and then we just end up turning away cz its just wasting all my pots, and i believe ice glavie does enough dmg to kill any build in the server just really depends how you play and how lucky you are. Sometimes u may get no crits but at time u get 2 - 3 gud crits in a row.

Ice_Warrior · Post by **Ice_Warrior** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 1:57 am

Can someone tell me which glavie build is better for group PvP, i VERY rarely do 1 on 1 cz there most of the time pot wars. thnx.

specialedd · Post by **specialedd** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 1:57 am

Well if you want to be diffrent than everyone else, dont use an imbue at all, and u will never fight anothr like you.

Ice_Warrior · Post by **Ice_Warrior** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 2:09 am

well thats just retarded if u think like that, but its true dat nearly half the server are fire glavies, if u go to greece, nearly everyone has started a fire glavie. There's way too many fire glavies about, u may aswell make a build dats gud in PvE but also gud in PvP as there's already enough people who are going for PvP builds, ice is in between a tanking of a blader and the power of a glavie. That just makes a nice build, and how many people u kno have over 60% reduce freeze on there jewelry and if they do have that they will also need to max out fire shield, and the shield dnt last for ever, ice glavie is not the best PvP build but its a gud enough build as it can beat alot of the str and int builds, its just if they fight another glavie, it just means pot war, np point in fighting, even if fire glavie does 2 amazing SSS crits in a row i still wont die cz i'll have around 13k health including blues and also i have ice buff which takes alot of dmg off. Ice is weak but combined with glavie the strongest str weap, it does enough dmg to kill other str and int builds, except other glavies and bladers. any other builds it will do fine killing dem even if they do have that 100% shit. crits are just crazy with glavies dnt matter wot imbue ur using, the crits are just crazy.

Ice_Warrior · Post by **Ice_Warrior** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 2:09 am

well thats just retarded if u think like that, but its true dat nearly half the server are fire glavies, if u go to greece, nearly everyone has started a fire glavie. There's way too many fire glavies about, u may aswell make a build dats gud in PvE but also gud in PvP as there's already enough people who are going for PvP builds, ice is in between a tanking of a blader and the power of a glavie. That just makes a nice build, and how many people u kno have over 60% reduce freeze on there jewelry and if they do have that they will also need to max out fire shield, and the shield dnt last for ever, ice glavie is not the best PvP build but its a gud enough build as it can beat alot of the str and int builds, its just if they fight another glavie, it just means pot war, np point in fighting, even if fire glavie does 2 amazing SSS crits in a row i still wont die cz i'll have around 13k health including blues and also i have ice buff which takes alot of dmg off. Ice is weak but combined with glavie the strongest str weap, it does enough dmg to kill other str and int builds, except other glavies and bladers. any other builds it will do fine killing dem even if they do have that 100% shit. crits are just crazy with glavies dnt matter wot imbue ur using, the crits are just crazy.

Kew · Post by **Kew** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 10:34 am

ive checked it, lv2 of fire shield flower (-41 status effect) didnt made me immune to a lv3 ice imbue (effect 38 )
ive got frostbitten and frozen

ShizKnight · Post by **ShizKnight** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 3:44 pm

Kew wrote:ive checked it, lv2 of fire shield flower (-41 status effect) didnt made me immune to a lv3 ice imbue (effect 38 )
ive got frostbitten and frozen

Hmmm, Strange. Oh well.

ginebra · Post by **ginebra** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 1:31 am

Kew wrote:ive checked it, lv2 of fire shield flower (-41 status effect) didnt made me immune to a lv3 ice imbue (effect 38 )
ive got frostbitten and frozen

yes. nobody is immune to frostbite or freeze. all those who claim to have 100% immunity is just bragging. my brother is lvl 68 at xian fire glaive with book 3 fire shield(-78 status) and he says he still get frostbitten/frozen by ice bladers a lot even though he has 64% anti-freeze jewelries! ice is still best imbue for pvp! ice glaive will beat a same level fire glaive. it wont be a long boring pot war too, fire glaive will not last long against an ice glaive of same level/items/weapons.

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