7070 or 8080 bow.

DiabolicBow · Post by **DiabolicBow** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 4:18 am

Should one wear protector or garment. I cant decide. Im doing 80 pacheon 80 fire 70 light 70 cold.

mike2007 · Post by **mike2007** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 4:49 am

ur a hybrid so wear protector. remeber that at least half of your defenses comes from your reinforces. if you were to wear garm ud have xtremely good mag defense but extremeley bad phys defense and vice versa for armor.

Cerus · Post by **Cerus** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 6:22 am

Its up to you really. I wear garment...
I am 80:85 with all gears up.
BOW/ICE/LIGHT so basically i got no mag defense.
Do ok against full str not so ok against full int. Ice buff and Snow shield is big helf against full str. Full int normally 1 or 2 hit me... I don't know y...

mike2007 · Post by **mike2007** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 6:24 am

Cerus wrote:Its up to you really. I wear garment...
I am 80:85 with all gears up.
BOW/ICE/LIGHT so basically i got no mag defense.
Do ok against full str not so ok against full int. Ice buff and Snow shield is big helf against full str. Full int normally 1 or 2 hit me... I don't know y...

u said it yourself, u got no mag defense. even with garm your mag defense isnt gonna b high enough without that buff, unless your a pure int

tomiotar · Post by **tomiotar** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 7:26 am

Well, I think that we are starting to agree all that the main problem for this build are hyb int builds. I use protector and if I didnt try switch to garment is because I dont have enough gold to pimp a second set.

Ice_Warrior · Post by **Ice_Warrior** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 7:50 am

so should ice/light 70:70 bow go garm or prot?

Cerus · Post by **Cerus** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 8:31 am

Ice_Warrior wrote:so should ice/light 70:70 bow go garm or prot?

Prot if you have fire, Garm if you got Ice.
Your problem is not against full Str but full Int.

TerenceChill · Post by **TerenceChill** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 2:53 pm

i am fire/light protector and have absolutely no problems against int. in my opinion garment is just the worst u can wear for 70:70 bow. do YOU know any pure int/int hybrid that wears garment? no? me neither. with 70:70 bow you are nearly a 2:1 int hybrid, so why take garment to strengthen your mag defence which is already big enough?

Ice_Warrior · Post by **Ice_Warrior** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 3:07 pm

i'm ice/light............. so................. garm?

InsertName · Post by **InsertName** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 7:50 pm

i use armour

Cerus · Post by **Cerus** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 7:23 am

TerenceChill wrote:i am fire/light protector and have absolutely no problems against int. in my opinion garment is just the worst u can wear for 70:70 bow. do YOU know any pure int/int hybrid that wears garment? no? me neither. with 70:70 bow you are nearly a 2:1 int hybrid, so why take garment to strengthen your mag defence which is already big enough?

The difference between me and you is that i take Ice/Light and you take Fire/Light. Meaning you have got more mag defense from fire and I got more phy def from Ice. With Snow shield I can almost guarantee to survive from pure str. Thats y i pick up garment for my mag def.

So far pvp against pure str is not so hard. It is against Pure int that scares me. Reason being that we are almost 2:1 int, the attack we do r mainly mag, which means the hit u do on pure int r reduced since they have high mag defense. Altho your int base hybrid build means you have higher mag defense but when going against a pure int who does insane damage, reducing a portion of it means you r still taking alot.

Try pvping a pure int with ice/fire/light buff. U'll get what i mean.

Ice_Warrior · Post by **Ice_Warrior** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 1:05 pm

lol so garm or prot?

Doctor_MOS · Post by **Doctor_MOS** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 2:05 pm

pure int spear isn't a problem in prots

bt s/s will be a pain in the **s
im going to switch to garment too

vanom · Post by **vanom** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 4:06 pm

bow only full str. i fought 80:80 bow on troy and that guy was not noob. his damages did not differ significantly from full str bow, but his crits were much lower. i know there's a even a thread about 80:80 bow, but this is my opinion. so don't start a flame or a try to prove me the advantages of 80:80. it was enough, what i've seen and encountered myself.

Ice_Warrior · Post by **Ice_Warrior** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 4:08 pm

if u dnt want to flame den dnt make stupid useless posts, this thread is not about dat and get ur facts rights instead of depending on ur little experience.

vanom · Post by **vanom** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 4:54 pm

obviously you really enjoy to be ignorant. good luck for your future

Ice_Warrior · Post by **Ice_Warrior** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 4:56 pm

ur the ignorant one leaving posts that OBVIOUSLY WILL cause flames, if you dnt want flaming then dnt post it all together, dnt express ur useless and noob opinions.

ltrbojevic · Post by **ltrbojevic** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 4:56 pm

Ice_Warrior wrote:if u dnt want to flame den dnt make stupid useless posts, this thread is not about dat and get ur facts rights instead of depending on ur little experience.

If you don't want to type better then a 8 year old don't make stupid posts. :wink:

Ice_Warrior · Post by **Ice_Warrior** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 4:59 pm

i type better then a 8 year old, u nvr heard of abreviation, get ur grammar right b4 criticising any1 else's idiot. It's like IF i call ur mum a little whore, it's my opinion but u will flame, it's the exact same concept.

ltrbojevic · Post by **ltrbojevic** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:01 pm

Ice_Warrior wrote:i type better then a 8 year old, u nvr heard of abreviation, get ur grammar right b4 criticising any1 else's idiot. It's like IF i call ur mum a little whore, it's my opinion but u will flame, it's the exact same concept.

No, you type WORSE then an 8 year old. :wink:

The way you type is bad, looks filthy, and it makes some people angry.
When i was 7 or so i knew how to spell "never"

And it's not abreviation. it's abbreviation

criticising = criticizing

:wink:

Ice_Warrior · Post by **Ice_Warrior** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:04 pm

criticizing is american way of spelling, ENGLISH is criticising, and yes i admit i i mis-spelt abbreviation, maybe it looks filthy atleast it faster, and a 7 year old wudn't kno how to abbreviate, they wud or been teached to spell proper grammar idiot. dnt like it, dnt read thread, most of the ppl use abbreviations.

ltrbojevic · Post by **ltrbojevic** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:06 pm

Ice_Warrior wrote:criticizing is american way of spelling, ENGLISH is criticising, and yes i admit i i mis-spelt abbreviation, maybe it looks filthy atleast it faster, and a 7 year old wudn't kno how to abbreviate, they wud or been teached to spell proper grammar idiot. dnt like it, dnt read thread, most of the ppl use abbreviations.

9 Errors, congrats, you official type worse then 70% of my Serbian friends who only know 3rd grade English.

And it's not faster, it's uglier and harder to read. Man, if you wrote like this on a test you would be kicked out of English class. LOL.

Ice_Warrior · Post by **Ice_Warrior** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:09 pm

u obviously dnt kno why ppl type like dis, ur just an idiot which cannot see things in other ppls perspective. sumtimes u gotta learn to adopt to the way other ppl speak not criticise u idiot. u rly need to get a life. i cnt imagine u talking to coloured ppl with a indian accent, u prob jus go 'UR NOT SPEAKING THE WORDS CLEARLY!' and then lecture him how he's talking like a little kid. and i dnt write this in a english class, i kno wen to write formal and slang, i can read both and tell the difference. I dnt even need to take english class anymre i'm in second year college, obviously ur still in high school or primary schoo, byt the sound of it, nursery.

ltrbojevic · Post by **ltrbojevic** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:13 pm

Ice_Warrior wrote:u obviously dnt kno why ppl type like dis, ur just an idiot which cannot see things in other ppls perspective. sumtimes u gotta learn to adopt to the way other ppl speak not criticise u idiot. u rly need to get a life. i cnt imagine u talking to coloured ppl with a indian accent, u prob jus go 'UR NOT SPEAKING THE WORDS CLEARLY!' and then lecture him how he's talking like a little kid. and i dnt write this in a english class, i kno wen to write formal and slang, i can read both and tell the difference. I dnt even need to take english class anymre i'm in second year college, obviously ur still in high school or primary schoo, byt the sound of it, nursery.

Is that 20 mistakes i count? :shock:

I don't mind some errors, but that looks plain ugly.
Your missing letters in some words, your not typing out the whole word.
I wish you luck in your future.

Ice_Warrior · Post by **Ice_Warrior** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:25 pm

i'll have a great future, i can type both formal and slang, your the one with the problem which can't read slang, if that's the case good luck with your future, since you will only be able to criticise the way other people will write. And try to get your punctuation right before trying to teach me grammar idiot. Your just being childish and cocky trying to count the number of so called 'mistakes you have found' in order to prove your point.

ltrbojevic · Post by **ltrbojevic** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:33 pm

Ice_Warrior wrote:i'll have a great future, i can type both formal and slang, your the one with the problem which can't read slang, if that's the case good luck with your future, since you will only be able to criticise the way other people will write. And try to get your punctuation right before trying to teach me grammar idiot. Your just being childish and cocky trying to count the number of so called 'mistakes you have found' in order to prove your point.

See, thats the way you should type. :wink:

Ice_Warrior · Post by **Ice_Warrior** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:34 pm

Cerus · Post by **Cerus** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 2:15 am

vanom wrote:bow only full str. i fought 80:80 bow on troy and that guy was not noob. his damages did not differ significantly from full str bow, but his crits were much lower. i know there's a even a thread about 80:80 bow, but this is my opinion. so don't start a flame or a try to prove me the advantages of 80:80. it was enough, what i've seen and encountered myself.

U were wrong Venom, I am a 70:70 myself, my damage r much more higher. Check the damage contest in General Discussion and you will see pure str bow does lower damage. Pure str is a good build, but 70:70 is good too. It depends how you look at it. Both has its pros n cons. Pure str are better in PvP 70:70 is better at PvE.

and just when you think 70:70 bow is weak. I got a ss to show you.

LVL73, 70:70 Bow with no sun parts. And no, I wasn't the first one there. three lvl 80s were in my pt. I got the kill.

ltrbojevic · Post by **ltrbojevic** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 5:52 am

I would just like to add, a 73 non euro killing Yarkan is something new

70:70 are good, you come close to dying each time :wink:

Doctor_MOS · Post by **Doctor_MOS** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 5:58 am

venom, please look in the damage contest before screaming out crap.

crits are around the same.