Why is fire not good after 80 cap? i dont understand.

[Sauron]

like title says, Why is fire not good after 80 cap? it has stronger nukes then lightning. please explain why?

[Panu]

im not the best explainer here but the new fire nuke is fast but weak, so it would be pretty useless.

lite keeps getting stronger, and u also need snow shield since u will take fire away, and the cold nukes would be used for grinding also and pvp since alot of ppl will take fire mastry away for 90 lite and cold (and wep). there will be less immunites for nukers, so getting cold up is also a must to slow ppl down.

and u would have 30 mastrys left over, so u could waste them on fire.

dont kno if this helped you or confused u, lol.

[flexo]

it's not that fire is that bad.. it's just that you can only max 2 force mastery.
so if you gotta pick between fire,light or cold then fire has less things you need or could use then the other 2 options.

Maybe this post helps too. It's about why most ppl choose cold and light and not another option:
(from a similar question in another thread about nuker builds on 90 cap)

okay the way i see it:

almost everyone says bicheon maxed for KD, iron wall etc. now as for the final 210 mastery's you can pick 2 tree's and have 30 mastery spots that you can put where-ever..now about those 2 tree's

light has the mag dmg increase and the strongest nukes at the 90 cap.
cold has the phy def and mana shield that makes a nuker able to tank.
fire has the strongest imbue and highest mag def (and also highest phy dmg)

so most ppl focus on strong nukes and tanking ppl (with the new snow shield serie) while they nuke. So they go light/cold.. ligh imbue ain't really that much weaker then the fire imbue so the sacrefice of leaving fire out really only lies in the decrease of mag def and phy dmg.

or looked at a bit diffrent: pure INT's have low phy def and do high dmg (mostly mag). So like any build you wanna cover your weakness and increase your strenght. So more phy def with cold and more mag dmg with light (pierce force serie)



Ofcourse other options are possible depending on how you fight and what kind of fights you are gonna be in. But cold/light generally makes the most sense.


ppl are planning for the 90 cap because the rumor goes that the 90 cap will come soon.. as in within 6 months.. personally i don't believe it.. but then again.. that is based on the idea that JM can't pull it off imo ^^

[torinchibi]

Fire is not weak after 80, it is weak between 80 and 90 cap because lightning gets the updated closer to level 90. Between 90 and 100 cap, fire actually gets 2 updated nukes one of which is 330% and lightning is stuck with only 1 updated nuke and the nuke is still 300%.
There are differences between the power of the nukes only because they do not get updated at the same levels, in the end lightning would probably be a little stronger , but I assume not much stronger.

[glavie]

Torinchibi
Where did you get your information on skills past 80?

[torinchibi]

There was a thread with the new skills posted by someone. Some were translated some were not, but we were looking at the effects and the poster tried to translate them for us.


Level 80-100 Chinese Skills

[glavie]

Thanks
I just bookmarked that page

[Vindicator]

Fire isnt bad after 80, just for nukers it is, because there is not enough room for it, thats all. Its not bad, just not as important. The lightning nuke is stronger, you need ice for phy def and snow shield, you need bicheon / heuksal for skills to pvp. After all, you cant straight nuke in pvp and expect to win >.>