80:80 spear pvp

JessicaYan · Post by **JessicaYan** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 4:07 pm

I'm 80, 69:71~78/86 with blues right now. Its hard to get 80 phy > <. I noticed none of them were using mana shield in your vid, and my worst matchups right now are str bows, and pure int s/s with mana shield on, how do you do vs these 2 builds? Do you have any sun pieces on? You tank like a monster with no mana shield ^_^.

Barotix · Post by **Barotix** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 4:58 pm

[SD]Stress wrote:
crystal wrote:what about bicheon 80:80?

IMO too little damage.

we need 2 find some1 with 80:80 bow [lvl 80 plz], and convince 2 buy the silk items 2 change skills from bow - bicheon, and see a PvP video.

[lol i see some people still think 1:1 sux]

JessicaYan · Post by **JessicaYan** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 7:14 pm

[SD]Stress wrote:
crystal wrote:what about bicheon 80:80?

IMO too little damage.

Its gonna be low. I can tell u from self experience.

Doctor_MOS · Post by **Doctor_MOS** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 7:06 am

Barotix wrote:
[SD]Stress wrote:
crystal wrote:what about bicheon 80:80?

IMO too little damage.

we need 2 find some1 with 80:80 bow [lvl 80 plz], and convince 2 buy the silk items 2 change skills from bow - bicheon, and see a PvP video.

[lol i see some people still think 1:1 sux]

80:80 isn't 1:1

Fat_Smurf · Post by **Fat_Smurf** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 7:17 am

JessicaYan wrote:
[SD]Stress wrote:
crystal wrote:what about bicheon 80:80?

IMO too little damage.

Its gonna be low. I can tell u from self experience.

still higher then a blader, but lesser then a nuker, but it might be an interesting build

Post by **Stress** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 8:33 am

Fat_Smurf wrote:
JessicaYan wrote:
[SD]Stress wrote:
crystal wrote:what about bicheon 80:80?

IMO too little damage.

Its gonna be low. I can tell u from self experience.

still higher then a blader, but lesser then a nuker, but it might be an interesting build

Well... it should be able to tank like a monster with snow shield and castle shield.

Layout:
80 bicheon
80 lightning
80 force
60 ice.

Tank tons against STR, and just nuke away with: light nuke 3 -> light nuke 2 -> shout book 4.

frankaslt1 · Post by **frankaslt1** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 1:31 pm

kevv wrote:Very nice, I all your vids. Hehe and your +7 spear owning all suns

Look all suns he fight were not fully farmed tehy didin't have 80 skilsl and others..
they woudl pwn him for sure if they were fully farmed and i gues he has sun armor but i just gues.

Doctor_MOS · Post by **Doctor_MOS** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 2:29 pm

frankaslt1 wrote:
kevv wrote:Very nice, I all your vids. Hehe and your +7 spear owning all suns

Look all suns he fight were not fully farmed tehy didin't have 80 skilsl and others..
they woudl pwn him for sure if they were fully farmed and i gues he has sun armor but i just gues.

there are glavies actually using emperor....

why is everyone obsessed with prove (which is 9 out of 10 times not true) to say that hybrids are bad?

Woody93 · Post by **Woody93** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 2:37 pm

I started with an 80:80 bow. I'm lvl 33 right now (In 2.5weeks isn't it bad eh? :p) and it's a quite good build. I can kill all builds now at the moment, only Str Glaviers wth sos are a little bit harder.

1 time i was pvping with a lvl 29 str bowman (when i was lvl 27 70:70). I had 1.4k HP and he did a crit of 1k, but after that crit, he couldn't do more dmg then 300. So i restored myself with md Hp pots and i kiled him with my dmg's of 600-700, so 70:70 is realy good.

Now i'm lvl 33 and farming at the moment. But i want your advice Undutchable. Is it good to makje my build like this?:

-80 Ice (Main buff)
-80 Lightning
-80 Pacheon
-60...(I don't know yet. Maybe force or something?)

Ty for answer!

Jantje · Post by **Jantje** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 8:29 pm

Btw UnDutch, do you grind with nukes or only heuksal skills?

Atsuten · Post by **Atsuten** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 9:21 pm

Now i'm lvl 33 and farming at the moment. But i want your advice Undutchable. Is it good to makje my build like this?:

-80 Ice (Main buff)
-80 Lightning
-80 Pacheon
-60...(I don't know yet. Maybe force or something?)

Ty for answer!

IMO... plan for the 90 cap. Most likely it will come before you hit 80.

UnDutchable · Post by **UnDutchable** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 10:14 pm

Jantje wrote:Btw UnDutch, do you grind with nukes or only heuksal skills?

heuksal only, nukes do shitty dmg with this build ^_^

btw...tnx for all the nice replies for the vid

Those things keeps me going

elnawawi · Post by **elnawawi** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 4:14 am

[quote="UnDutchable
btw...tnx for all the nice replies for the vid

Those things keeps me going

[/quote]

yes .. keep going ... you have an amazing build ..

But I feel that 2:1 Int spear user will be better than 80:80 .. right ? and he can nuke too ..

darkmaster21 · Post by **darkmaster21** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 4:37 am

elnawawi wrote:
UnDutchable wrote:btw...tnx for all the nice replies for the vid Those things keeps me going

yes .. keep going ... you have an amazing build ..

But I feel that 2:1 Int spear user will be better than 80:80 .. right ? and he can nuke too ..

But less HP = Less tanking.

Doctor_MOS · Post by **Doctor_MOS** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 8:04 am

elnawawi wrote:But I feel that 2:1 Int spear user will be better than 80:80 .. right ? and he can nuke too ..

isn't the difference between 1:2 and 80:80 around 15 str or something?

*editted 1000 times to get the quote good -_-*

Ice_Warrior · Post by **Ice_Warrior** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 12:24 pm

80:80 build is 2:1 int/str from 1-72, then 72-80 all str makes perfect 80:80 balance with bonus, btw dutch, u notice in ur videos all ur opponents are not maxed out and havent got any of the new skills, except for the bow which sucked ass for sum reason

doa_master0 · Post by **doa_master0** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 2:36 pm

UnDutchable wrote:
JessicaYan wrote:Hey, I have 70:70 build too. What is your exact balance with blues? Your dmg is pretty good.

My balance is 80:86 now, if i max all my int/str points i could maybe get to a 81:87 balance.

And yes they ALL were 80.

In yo Face ALL 80 ^_^... ur GODLY nd i hate u for now

JessicaYan · Post by **JessicaYan** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 4:38 pm

Ice_Warrior wrote:80:80 build is 2:1 int/str from 1-72, then 72-80 all str makes perfect 80:80 balance with bonus, btw dutch, u notice in ur videos all ur opponents are not maxed out and havent got any of the new skills, except for the bow which sucked ass for sum reason

If your talkin about nakid 80:80, its impossible, if your talking about with full blues, its gonna be higher then 80:80.

I would recommend going for 70:70 balance nakid, you can calculate your self, but with full 4/5 int/str blues, magic bal will be closer to 86+ and phy bal around 80+.

Iam 69:71 nakid, I lvl with nukes, not heuk skills, I do fine.

Fat_Smurf · Post by **Fat_Smurf** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 6:02 pm

Doctor_MOS wrote:
frankaslt1 wrote:
kevv wrote:Very nice, I all your vids. Hehe and your +7 spear owning all suns

Look all suns he fight were not fully farmed tehy didin't have 80 skilsl and others..
they woudl pwn him for sure if they were fully farmed and i gues he has sun armor but i just gues.
there are glavies actually using emperor....

why is everyone obsessed with prove (which is 9 out of 10 times not true) to say that hybrids are bad?

cause I just can't believe my pure str glaver suck that much :shock:

elnawawi · Post by **elnawawi** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 7:08 pm

cause I just can't believe my pure str glaver suck that much

Pure charecters isn't a logical build at all .. you say that euro are pure ?!

Yeah but remember that one mastery for a euro sux .. all euro should have sub mastery to be good enough .. you don't think that it's other meaning of word " Hybrid " if you are non english speaker search in a dictionary for word " Hybrid " and you will know what I mean ..

Ice_Warrior · Post by **Ice_Warrior** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 2:29 pm

OMG NO! euro are so overpowered, i was fighting SS warrior, he used mana skin and i cud barely scratch him, and his manaskin lasted longer then my friggin snow shield, i dnt think it even went off,

F-22 · Post by **F-22** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 6:35 pm

What about 64:76 hybrid int spearman? Do you think that is good? I am stil waiting for a none sun str player to kill me. LOL!!!

31k sp more until i am done with sp farming....yea baby!

Doctor_MOS · Post by **Doctor_MOS** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 8:04 pm

F-22 wrote:What about 64:76 hybrid int spearman? Do you think that is good? I am stil waiting for a none sun str player to kill me. LOL!!!

31k sp more until i am done with sp farming....yea baby!

this is something like a 1:2 spearman with 20 points more int or so,

yep i think it would be good

Krevidy · Post by **Krevidy** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 8:13 pm

Woaw!! The allmight UnDutchAble! :love:

I made a char on RedSea to search you and the DutchReapers guild!
But i couldn't manage to find you