Rogue (subclass Bard or Cleric)?

[Jerone]

I am lvl 23 rogue right now with Bard as subclass, I was thinking to get cleric to/switching to cleric.

Well, the title says it. What do you think is better and why?

[DeShin]

It's up to your preferences. Don't feel like training this character, well go train on other character. But my advice is best to stick with one sole character and level it. Euro able to level in a fast way, so don't bother it.

[binnosh]

all depends on how you like to play

if you play solo a lot i'd recomend a warrior if yu do a lot of parties take a cleric

but it's up to you

and as said above, sick with one, it's hard, i tend to change weekly aswell, but won't help you really :p

[Sethzor]

if u want to move fast without mob disturbing u = bard
if u want be cool and heal = cleric

[nphillip]

if u want to move fast without mob disturbing u = bard
if u want be cool and heal = cleric

+1

but if ur rogue, u should already have a skill that increases your speed.

[dcninja]

does the rogue skill work even when your weapon is unequipped? i was thinking of doing my sword/shield euro all str warrior with a rogue subclass... speed, and invisibility... but do these work when u take the daggers off and equip a sword?

[DeShin]

Hmm taking rogue as a sub, first time I heard that. Well .. you should take those that is supportive like cleric or bard, this both are highly recommend almost to all euro builds and it brings so much advantages in your leveling.

[dcninja]

im strictly thinking about PVP which would be better, why, and exactly what skills will work after i re-equip my sword/shield?

[DeShin]

I wouldn't suggest you to go for sword/shield as your main if you like PvP, and a tanker like sword/shield is not suitable to become thief. Best thief is either wizard or rogue.

[dcninja]

well say I had to go sword and shield euro warrior all STR because it's such a high level and im not starting over...

what job should I do?

hunter or thief?

i don't want to do trader because trader is boring.

EDIT: why would s/s euro not be a good thief?

[DeShin]

Because euro 1 handed sword/shield is a tanker. Tankers are those that can able to tank in a party and also due to the fact that they can survive longer in a party or a guild war.

To become a thief, you need to be fast and capable enough to deal highest damage so that the trader's camel will die before even the trader come down and attack you. And also 1 handed sword/shield is melee, so you can't expect much if you want to be thief because as usual range attacker is far better than melee attacker, so imagine you are a trader and someone shoot you 20m afar that you don't know, it will be so annoying.

[BioDude]

The Bless Spell Will Be so Helpful To U
It Increases Ur Phy & Mag Defense
And It Stays Even After U Switch Ur Weapon
But Stays Only For 45 Sec

[JiMMaR]

hmmm..guess I gotta help you in that

I'm a rogue (lvl44) and just got a sub bard

sub cleric won't be that good .. cause the only good skill is the bless skill and only stays for 45 sec (useless -.-) only if u r planning on changing ur weapon in the middle of the fight .. heal and then change it back and start hitting ...and then heal .. and then forget to change ur weapon and start to hit ----> dead XD

for the bard ones .. I only got the moving march and noise pretty good skills
for moving march .. it makes it really better while in stealth mode .. + noise makes sure mobs don't come in hitting you while u r fighting (doesn't work against champions and giants)

and about the stealth .. it goes off when u change your weapon .. so having a sub rogue is a bad idea
+ the scud (the rogue speed increase) works for 15 sec and got a delay of 2 minutes ... so won't help you that much (unless you r thief and running from a high lvl hunter .. it helped me a lot XD)

anyway .. moving march is good for running away too ^.^

the only reason ppl would want to have a sub rogue is for the monster mask (some may want to have fun using duplicate too)

and that's it
so I suggest u keep ur sub as a bard ... and go thieving !!

[ZiNC]

hmmm..guess I gotta help you in that

I'm a rogue (lvl44) and just got a sub bard

sub cleric won't be that good .. cause the only good skill is the bless skill and only stays for 45 sec (useless -.-) only if u r planning on changing ur weapon in the middle of the fight .. heal and then change it back and start hitting ...and then heal .. and then forget to change ur weapon and start to hit ----> dead XD

for the bard ones .. I only got the moving march and noise pretty good skills
for moving march .. it makes it really better while in stealth mode .. + noise makes sure mobs don't come in hitting you while u r fighting (doesn't work against champions and giants)

and about the stealth .. it goes off when u change your weapon .. so having a sub rogue is a bad idea
+ the scud (the rogue speed increase) works for 15 sec and got a delay of 2 minutes ... so won't help you that much (unless you r thief and running from a high lvl hunter .. it helped me a lot XD)

anyway .. moving march is good for running away too ^.^

the only reason ppl would want to have a sub rogue is for the monster mask (some may want to have fun using duplicate too)

and that's it
so I suggest u keep ur sub as a bard ... and go thieving !!

WRONGcLERİC SUBCLASS İS NOT USELESS.And you cant call it that if you dont have it.WHY cleric subs good?:

• Usually rogue's arent wanted in party's but if you have res and an cleric sub your chance of finding a party is %50 more than the chance of a sub bard.
• RES saves life.
• Bless spell,Healing division and Healing cycle helps you kill party or giant monsters 7lvl higher than you.im 47lvl and i can kill an penon giant with all these buff on me.
• when you are hunting in a party which is killing high lvl monsters and if an giant party spawns you switch to cleric and heal your party saving you all.

I THINK THIS IS ENOUGH[/list]