European versus Chinese

Mefra · Post by **Mefra** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 7:02 pm

Okay guys, is it me, or ar the Europeon characters way stronger. Offcourse they have the pot delay but beside that.

At low lvl they outdamage everyone, even pure int nukers...How about high levels? (Ain't been there yet...). Cause if they really outdamage, than I'll probably start over as a European character, because I don't like the pot wars anyway...

DeShin · Post by **DeShin** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 7:18 pm

Easy, just browse through youtube clips, I'm sure there are some euro pvp video there. Go do some reseach yor.

Mefra · Post by **Mefra** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 7:42 pm

Hmm, yeah, you can find some videos there. But all I find is that Europe wins in pvp, which can't be right...(there ain't too many videos on yet...). Europe is based on party, so it doesn't seem possible to me that Europe wins every match. That probably had to do with the different builds that went against eachother..

DeShin · Post by **DeShin** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 7:53 pm

It's true, because most of the euro class can do outrageous damage than chinese, especially the superb nuke from wiz. (of course def is super low + pot delay)

Back to your 1st post, I think quite logical too, wondering how high level will have to play it with the pot delay (except for healing skills and vampire kiss)

Drageath · Post by **Drageath** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 8:06 pm

There are vids on youtube showing euro characters getting killed in 1v1 pvp by the chinese. The vids are in ksro i think at lvl 90. Here's one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbn_5IGepXE.
U can see that the chinese still are able to kill europeans but wat worries me is the rogues. It doesn't seem fair that they can hit that high AND go invisible and for the chinese to counter it they have to invest in another accursed skill (descry).

DeShin · Post by **DeShin** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 8:20 pm

I would conclude that euro vs chinese in pvp is 50:50 because euro has superb damage, though long pot delay and chinese on the other hand doing satisfied damage, but with split-second pot delay. Anything that is slow casting or damage not that high will pwn by chinese, due to delay time.

Drageath · Post by **Drageath** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 8:36 pm

imo that balance is probably true but i really don't think it's right. From wat joymax have said about euro being party based china should dominate 1v1 or at least win most of the time. But then again maybe they do :S.

locthief · Post by **locthief** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 11:04 pm

Drageath wrote:There are vids on youtube showing euro characters getting killed in 1v1 pvp by the chinese. The vids are in ksro i think at lvl 90. Here's one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbn_5IGepXE.
U can see that the chinese still are able to kill europeans but wat worries me is the rogues. It doesn't seem fair that they can hit that high AND go invisible and for the chinese to counter it they have to invest in another accursed skill (descry).

1 on 1 rogues and wizards are pretty easy to kill if they have that insane damage buff up you get a hold of them and they drop fast. transports and pets both reveal where some one is stealthed so I am shocked to see many use them with hide classes. Yes a rogue can go stealthed after they hit you. But if you have them targeted with a attack skill or your pet auto attacks them it will pull them out of stealth. If nothing else you can always pop a potion to see them.

Post by **Rainigul** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 11:11 pm

Best trick: stealth as dagger rogue with dagger desperate on, use 10% hp skill, then combo, then right after the combo cancel dagger depsperate. You can even cancel before you do the combo, but the combo just might kill the opponent.

5581 · Post by **5581** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 2:10 am

[SD]Rainigul wrote:Best trick: stealth as dagger rogue with dagger desperate on, use 10% hp skill, then combo, then right after the combo cancel dagger depsperate. You can even cancel before you do the combo, but the combo just might kill the opponent.

I have try my rouge lv42 on Samarkand, but i kill lv35-39 character. critical you can get 11k-17k damage, i am using lv38 +2 dagger with 19Crit. normal with no critical you can get 5k, with no DD you can get 2k. i can kill 2 people with DD, but one must be mage. my hp is 4k plus. I think is fun, maybe i will try some high lv people other day and give you the result, i think not much diffrent if i use DD with the 10%hp skill. any critical also will 100% win. the most hardest to kill is shielder, because of the BLOCK. cos 10%hp can be BLOCK, if that happens, bladers win.