cold imbue

iman00b · Post by **iman00b** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:15 pm

what do ya think of cold imbue? im still going to use fire nukes.. but just wondering how good/bad cold imbue will do. i am hybrid int spear lvl 66

GaS · Post by **GaS** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:19 pm

Get either light or fire imbue. There is not real point of having cold imbue against an opponent who could be immune to it. And for grinding another imbue would be a lot better.

Nenhunter · Post by **Nenhunter** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:30 pm

ice imbue is good for giants if ur pots aren't healing fast enough.

iman00b · Post by **iman00b** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:57 pm

what do you do or used to be immune to it? cause someone used ice imbue on me and i was froze and could not move and then died.. i even use pills.. but right when i used it.. i got hit by the cold again... thats why i asked if cold imbue is goood... made me kinda want to use it.. lol

Ell · Post by **Ell** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 11:01 pm

Not very hard to become immune later on, especially when fog tabs make up half of all the tab drops you get.

Aaron777 · Post by **Aaron777** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 12:31 am

Ell wrote:Not very hard to become immune later on, especially when fog tabs make up half of all the tab drops you get.

Supposidly theyre making it so you can't be ice immune..
But it is no good at all for nukers,only bladers really,some glavies

Ell · Post by **Ell** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 12:37 am

Aaron777 wrote:
Ell wrote:Not very hard to become immune later on, especially when fog tabs make up half of all the tab drops you get.

Supposidly theyre making it so you can't be ice immune..
But it is no good at all for nukers,only bladers really,some glavies

Do you have a source from Joymax stating that? I'm not trying to be offensive, just curious.

iman00b · Post by **iman00b** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 1:51 am

yea can you prove that? caused im a nuker and im thinking of going ice imbue.. but if its only good for blader/glavie then ill think twice about it... nothing against you just curious also

borat2 · Post by **borat2** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 3:21 am

Aaron777 wrote:
Ell wrote:Not very hard to become immune later on, especially when fog tabs make up half of all the tab drops you get.

Supposidly theyre making it so you can't be ice immune..
But it is no good at all for nukers,only bladers really,some glavies

ice is a better choice for int builds than str builds to be honest.
due to mastery limits you will have to choose the imbue that you will get all up to 90cap or even further.
taking ice as a pure ints does not lower your damage that much and the other skills in that mastery are considered important for you

taking ice as pure str lowers your already low damage and the buffs aren't THAT important, rather go for fire that increases your damage with the imbue and all buffs included can be taken to highest level of the game.

i have not found any information if they will change anything to the fireshield so guess they wont and people still will be immune.

kwfreedom · Post by **kwfreedom** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 7:36 am

in my opinion i don't think that the ice is suck. because not many ppl can immune ice. even i almost heart ppl say ppl immune ice at high lvl but when u go see youtube that most lvl80 vs they are still will get froze.

1 more ice is good on new euro too.cos they just can eat pil after 10 sec.
but i dun think that use ice imbus i suggest u use froze wave or other skill that froze ppl cos that skill can 100% froze ppl.

DeathBeforeDishonor · Post by **DeathBeforeDishonor** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 8:49 am

IMO delevel ice
Go fire/light
least then u can do more dmg ice might give u the chance to take 1 more hit if ur lucky but least fire/light u do dmg before you go down

Monk1690 · Post by **Monk1690** » Sun Jul 15, 2007 10:17 pm

borat2 wrote:ice is a better choice for int builds than str builds to be honest.
due to mastery limits you will have to choose the imbue that you will get all up to 90cap or even further.
taking ice as a pure ints does not lower your damage that much and the other skills in that mastery are considered important for you

taking ice as pure str lowers your already low damage and the buffs aren't THAT important, rather go for fire that increases your damage with the imbue and all buffs included can be taken to highest level of the game.

i have not found any information if they will change anything to the fireshield so guess they wont and people still will be immune.

What great timing is this topic. I was testing my pure int s/s character at lvl 43 with the ice imbue because there was so much talk about the mana shield and people dropping fire for ice and light; thought is worth it to waste about 1k sp to test this out rather than waste gold to delevel later. Anyways, I played between lvl 40 to 43 with ice imbue and light nukes.

This is my observation:
Compare to fire imbue, the light nuke dmg reduction by ice imbue exists, but not noticible because nukes inherently fluctates a lot. At bunwang, 1600 to 2300 dmg. However, weapon dmg reduction is noticible; for e.g. the 2nd book kd at lvl 41 with about 5-10% reduction in dmg.

Other interesting observations is that mobs freezes and froze bitten with ice imbue and nukes (of course, y'all know that); but more interestingly, the light nuke also transfers the freeze and frozebits. I find this incredibly useful against giants and being mobbed; whatever reduction in dmg seems to be worth it.

PvP with ice imbue and light nuke. Hmm... I'm still relatively low lvl at 43, but it seems nuker pvp trend is to win and lose quickly. Ice has a disadvantage here when it doesn't frostbit or freeze with the inital nuke. Also, as I mentioned before weapon skills dmg is reduced noticibly; at this lvl nuking is still the main way to pvp; but at higher lvls it seems people use more weapons; the reduction in weapon dmg might hurt in pvp.

Btw, I still can't decide whether to drop fire; the dmg with intermediate lvl nukes is simply not comparable. The 2nd book fire nuke is so much more powerful at 300% than the light one at my lvl. The difference should lvl off by lvl 50 once I have the 2nd book light nuke, which is also at 300%.

alZen · Post by **alZen** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:15 am

to me ... make or break is immunity fix, if there would be a fix for this or not.

iman00b · Post by **iman00b** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 10:51 pm

with the new update?? are they going to do anything with the cold imbue?

Ell · Post by **Ell** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 1:09 am

iman00b wrote:with the new update?? are they going to do anything with the cold imbue?

Why would they do anything to the imbue?

iman00b · Post by **iman00b** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 1:40 am

raise the mag attack by a bit or higher percentage of frostbite?? iono im a noob

Ell · Post by **Ell** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 1:45 am

Oh that's what you meant, well more levels will be added to the last book but the damage will still be less than those of fire and light.

MrFudge · Post by **MrFudge** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 1:53 am

Ell wrote:Oh that's what you meant, well more levels will be added to the last book but the damage will still be less than those of fire and light.

but some euro characters can't be immune to ice, so its pretty nice when fighting against them.

also remember there are noob chinese chars that arent immune too.

MrBow · Post by **MrBow** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 8:56 am

If you're going to grind alot, ice is pretty nice (you'll need less pots - specially if you're a pure str bow).

monkey289 · Post by **monkey289** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 9:26 am

I'm 70:70 ice bow, with light buffs and fire buffs, its not that bad

miagye · Post by **miagye** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 12:45 pm

monkey289 wrote:I'm 70:70 ice bow, with light buffs and fire buffs, its not that bad

Yeah, that's true

iman00b · Post by **iman00b** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:43 pm

monkey289 wrote:I'm 70:70 ice bow, with light buffs and fire buffs, its not that bad

im not a bow.. im a hybrid spear

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