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I'm the worst possible build!

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I'd like to get multiple opinions on this, if possible.

I'm lv 27, but I don't want to make a new character; I really need advice on how to make up for my massive suckiness.

I have (naked) 89 points in str and 81 in int.

I think I've also badly managed my skills:
Pacheon Lv 22:
Anti devil bow-Missile 9
White hawk summon 5
Mind concentration 2

Lightning Lv 24:
Must-piercing force 3
Grass walk-flow 5
Concentration-1st 1
Heaven's force 2

Fire Lv 24:
River fire force 9
Flame body wisdom 3
Basic fire protection 4
Flame devil force 2

Force Lv 20:
Force-cure poison 1
Heal-medical hand 5
Soul rebirth art 1
Force increasing 2

I hit 52's on monsters the same level as me (earth ghosts).

SO: Is it possible to do any worse than that?
Also, what should I do to make myself less bad? I AM AT YOUR DISPOSAL
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Re: Help! I'm the worst possible build!

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hmm, this is a tought one. =/
alright i'm still a noob but this is what i would do, so if any one post after me saying my idea is kinda dumb, don't blame me ^^

alright to be honest your str and magic balance are pretty messed up =D
since it's scatters so much i'd say you should either go pure str from now or become a 70:70 hybrid
if you become a 70:70 hybrid your phy and magic balance should match up when you're at level 43 or you can go pure str which is still alright =]

i'm guessing you like using the bow (i do too ^^) so these are the skills i think you should max out
80 pacheon
80 fire
80 light
20 force <-- leave it the way it is or you can be a supporter in your group then level it up to 60
if you don't want to be the supporter then you have 40 levels to pick whatever you want =]

so yeah this is what i'd do if i were you
any one wanna comment on what i just said?

90 caps might come out soon (prrsh yeah right)
so you might wanna plan ahead and skip what i said and mix and match what you wanna be ^^
but you'll for sure will want 90 pach and 90 fire. =]

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Lust4MiKo wrote:i'm guessing you like using the bow (i do too ^^) so these are the skills i think you should max out
80 pacheon
80 fire
80 light
20 force <-- leave it the way it is or you can be a supporter in your group then level it up to 60


+1 if you want to be a Force user you could go pure str and get Force to 60

If you plan to get to lvl 90 (when 90 cap arrives at iSRO)
Go full INT from now on until you reach 70%phy balance:70% mag balance naked, then lvl 90 Pacheon, 90 Fire, 90 Light, and 30 Force if you want, but Force is worthless unless you want to level it up all the way.

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Great, thanks.
You guys are really helping, but I NEED EVEN MORE :twisted:

str/int:
So is 70/70 balance when you have the same number of points in str and int?

Can I still be a successful pure(ish) str if I already have 81 int?

What are the advantages/disadvantages of pure str vs. pure int vs. hybrid? (and why are you guys suggesting pure hybrid and not int hybrid? :) )

I doubt I'll ever get close to Lvl. 90 (It took me like 2 months to get here), so I should try to evenly match str/int or just add points to str?
Also, won't they be balanced at Lv 30 if I just add to int?

skills:
It sounds like my mastery levels, at least, are acceptable?

One possible problem I'm wondering about is whether I should be using more pacheon skills. Right now, I just use anti devil bow-Missile (and river fire force if it's my lvl or higher). Should I be using autumn wind or berserker arrow or the double arrow thing, or any other pacheon skill?

And the same general question for the other skill trees - should I continue focusing in this many skills, or add more, or focus on less?
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Pulk wrote:Great, thanks.
You guys are really helping, but I NEED EVEN MORE :twisted:

str/int:
So is 70/70 balance when you have the same number of points in str and int?
Yep that's right
Can I still be a successful pure(ish) str if I already have 81 int?
well at level 43 if you didn't go 70:70 you'd only have a 84% phy and 48% mag i i don't think that this would work out in your favor 90% phy low enough T.T
What are the advantages/disadvantages of pure str vs. pure int vs. hybrid? (and why are you guys suggesting pure hybrid and not int hybrid? :) )
when you're pure str you'll have loads of hp which is a plus =D and criticals are based on your str so if you have a high str you'll do more criticals - int hybrids are one of the worst builds ^^ trust me i tried =/ int hybrid bowman already have a plus of being far away distance to fight so nukes wouldn't really help out =/
I doubt I'll ever get close to Lvl. 90 (It took me like 2 months to get here), so I should try to evenly match str/int or just add points to str?
Also, won't they be balanced at Lv 30 if I just add to int?
yep, hmm yeah i guess =D let me do the math agian.. nope it wouldn't work out at 30 click this and check it out click it and on the top click on the head:
http://bobtheveg.dyndns.org/SRO/Char_Bu ... ofile=5991


skills:
It sounds like my mastery levels, at least, are acceptable?

One possible problem I'm wondering about is whether I should be using more pacheon skills. Right now, I just use anti devil bow-Missile (and river fire force if it's my lvl or higher). Should I be using autumn wind or berserker arrow or the double arrow thing, or any other pacheon skill?
Get everything except for the autumn wind because it sucks =D
And the same general question for the other skill trees - should I continue focusing in this many skills, or add more, or focus on less?

what?? o.O the main trees a bowman should have are pacheon fire and light

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Woo! Thanks.

So it sounds like the best thing for me to do is just add str points from now on... I'd just like confirmation from anyone that that'll be ok, given I already have 81 int.
For pacheon skills, I should get all of them except autumn wind.
What about fire? (Should I get the fire wall thing?)
And should I continue to add points in the bottom skill in each set?
And, could someone discuss what a str hybrid (on the way to being a pure str) is like? (any info or tips would be really, really helpful)

Thanks, thanks, thanks.

Also, on an entirely unrelated note, how many hours of grinding does it take to get a pure int nuker up to lv 30?
And another entirely unrelated note, if it took me 2 months to get to lv 27, how long will it take to get to lv 80?
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Pulk wrote:I hit 52's on monsters the same level as me (earth ghosts).


Are you using the origional lvl 1 bow???
And/or are you not using imbue?

That is the only way you could be doing so little damage. Please clarify.
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I'd restart

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Tasdik wrote:I'd restart


+1

Just re roll, that way u get the money form your old char. You arnt at a high lvl so it would worth while to re roll. Though the decision is totally up to you.

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Post by Ell »

You could either keep adding str to become a hybrid str build, or add all into int, and switch to spear, either way you'll be fine. Just pick between either str or int, don't become 1:1.

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I was prety much the same, what i did am doing.... is went int hybrid to lvl 24 to level supremo fast and now turning to str pure all the way hoping for a 2:1 finish basically because early quests are boring and int bow kicks levelings ass tbh up til 24 then you need to start worrying about getting one hit by naff nukers and galie pipes that are soooo large they seem to be compensating for something so I turn str now to build upon my char also to slow down the leveling as I HATE FARMING and with slower leveling i can now ctch up on my forces 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
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for 80's cap you might as well do:

bow:80
fire:80
lighting:69
force:69
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Lets clarify some points. If you have that much int and str you will never be a pure or near to pure, so now you have to decide which kind of hibrid you want to be (and for the one that said that 70:70 is the same that 1:1 please dont tell wrong information if you dont know). The safest way for you probably will be adding more points to str than to int because, even when you will be dealing more damage you need to be more skilled player if you want to survive on a pvp fight (so probably is not the best option for a first char). Talking about masteries you should take force up to 69 or dont take at it all. From the weapons skills the most important are:

antidevil (you already have it)
combo arrow (start to level it)
white and blue hawk (skip black)
berzeker (it will become your main weapon at high level)

Then take at least 1 lvl of strong bow(if new skills are add you will have to max it) and get as many levels of demon soul as you wish.

If you are taking just fire and light use the fire imbue but max all the buffs of light (speed and magic damage are a must for every hibrid bow).



As someone said is imposible that you do so crappy damage on earth ghost using de imbue and a lvl26 bow, so check was is wrong with that. At the grinding time choose grind on the mobs that you can kill with antidevil + arrow combo, so you can quickly go to next one (repeat antiedevil+arrow combo+berzeker with giants until they die).
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Post by Diz »

Okay since you don't want to restart again you can do this to make up for all the skills that you don't want. Go to one of thos websites that sell gold, buy like 20million gold for like $20 and keept doing the skill reallocation quest in DW. Problem solved. ;)
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ur FINE! 1:1 bow hybrid is very common and does okay in pvp

just continue with this but even out str and int or give str slightly more

leave the gap and get ~5k sp and lvl up fire, light, and pacheon up and ull be fine

and of course get a good bow =)

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Post by zephyr »

70:70 is int hybrid

i would make a new char since its only lv27
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