[GUIDE]: HYBRIDS: An Alternative Build (updated 9/25/06)

[SuicideGrl]

here's a pic of a not-so-cookie cutter build.. an ub3r nuker.. .masteries in ALL 3 offensive forces.

WOW she's high lvl. as you can see, she has maxed her final book of imbue. her hotbar contains both the 1st and 2sd book of fire nuke, 3 lvls of lion shout, both books of cold nuke, and both books of lightning nuke. wow. just... wow.

and what ARE tose things she's fighting? i <3 KSRO :)

[ichijiro]

OMG. I want one of those too.
I hate the damn koreans for getting all that content and level caps before us and all.. aww heck :'(

[kiwibird2]

i cant wait till im level 60. that would be awesome

[kurohagane]

here's a pic of a not-so-cookie cutter build.. an ub3r nuker.. .masteries in ALL 3 offensive forces.

WOW she's high lvl. as you can see, she has maxed her final book of imbue. her hotbar contains both the 1st and 2sd book of fire nuke, 3 lvls of lion shout, both books of cold nuke, and both books of lightning nuke. wow. just... wow.

and what ARE tose things she's fighting? i <3 KSRO

lol I was busy looking at those shiny acc

[Pan2006]

I hate first post, since most people will think that I am the newbie. but oh well...

I have been farming 6 characters since I don't know which one should I go with, right now I have.

*PSHunter (LV 18) - STR Ice/Fire Bow
Using the build based on...
http://www.metroid-legacy.com/forums/vi ... hp?p=70#70
*PSGic (LV 13) - INT Light Sword
Using the build based on...
http://www.silkroadtavern.com/forums/in ... =8&pick=46
*PSWari (LV 12) - STR Fire Glavie
Using the build based on...
http://www.silkroad-oasis.com/forum/sho ... php?t=1108
*------ (LV 6) - STR Fire Blade & Shield
[Going to use Fire as main force]
*------ (LV 8) - Hybrid [1:1] Fire/Light Spear (Maybe put INT 2: STR 1 after LV 20)
*------ (LV 9) - INT Healer/Ice Bow
These 2 characters using the build based on...
http://www.silkroadtavern.com/forums/in ... =8&pick=49

I doing this to know which one is the best one before I going to set a character as the main.

Currently, PSHunter is the main, but she seem use too much MP pots even she wearing Garment and ranout of arrows too quick! So I started INT chara with Sword and Armor, but she need to use BOTH HP & MP pots x.x Then I started another STR chara to support arrows. Then, I feel, I want to be healer, so I start a healer with pure INT for now. But she is bow, she needed arrows. So I create another STR chara to support her, but I want a hybrid, so I create a hybrid wanna-be-heavy-INT chara to have all type of characters.

For overall performance...
*PSHunter, use too much arrows & MP.
*PSGic, use BOTH HP & MP.
*PSWari, seem this one is best for now, using protector.
*Healer, save some HP pots, but not MP.
*Hybrid, having trouble on HP if she got more than 2 hits.
*STR, have to wait until next week to get to level.
[However, all of them can do some decent damages.]

These characters, use equipments from drop most of them. I don't like to do PvP [Since I am not so good with this...] and save money as much as I could while make characters strong as much as possible.

I don't like to do levels and screw up my characters later on, so I tried to look from different forums, look at builds, and try to SP farm (even I have no + or SOS weapon...) This will make sure that I have enough SP for certain levels before I move on.

Well, since this one is the hybrid topic, so before I going to pump my character even worst, I have to make sure the following:

1. My hybrid character current stat is STR 38: INT 38 base +2 INT to make STR 38: INT 40 at LV 8. Weapon is Spear, going to use fire and light . I use fire to attack monsters. Her magic damage seem to be much higher than weapon. [Weapon only around 25 and Magic around 76.] The one problem that she had is... If I fight with Water Ghost, the damage of Water Ghost is about 40 ~ 44 with Protector, if she got one hit, her HP and MP will be reduce the same amount. However, if she got two hits, her HP will be less than MP and sometimes I have to use pots to continue fighting. I am thinking that if I use Armor, my MP will be much less and use more MP pots. I think that if she start to put 2 INT: 1 STR, whould it will be better than this or it will be the same? (Current: 75% Phy: 66% Mag)

2. If I going to be 1:1, Should I have to put on both weapon and force skills? I heard is the max gap is around 150, so I have to think which one will be main, and 2 sub. (The 3 books that I going to use are Fire, Light and, Spear books) I hate when I need to reset skills and cost ton of Gold/Real Dollars. It really hard to decide either go with 1:1 or 2 INT: 1 STR. (But based on the ScreenShot of the build, it is 1:1 character)

3. For the Healer, I heard from players that "You need to put STR for HP to get less dying." Well, I feel like, if I put STR, then, my ice damage will be reduce and the monsters will hit me first and I die. I think that will be the same thing as put no STR and die in the mob. I think I may have to watch out HP before I decide healer as pure INT or Hybrid INT 2: STR 1.

I am a player that do not really involve the PvP, do mostly PvE, solo most of the time (until higher LV), save money, and like to use drops rather than by things from stall.

Well, that's all about my characters. Sorry that this post is long. It took me almost an hour to think about this post through.

Sincerely, Pan2006 (March 19th, 2006)

[SuicideGrl]

Pan:

welcome to SRF!! glad you decided to join the community.

as for your build choices, it seems like you have plenty of optinos to choose from and that you have pretty clear paths for most of them. now, onto your questions:

1) Switching to armor will only make you use MORE mp pots. but remember, you're always gonna have to pot. it's a fact of life in any game. things will hurt you, you'll use skills, and your resources will need replenishing. you have NO IDEA how much i spend on pots DAILY at my lvl... sometimes 200k-300k. so get used to this :) 2:1 should be fine for you, and protector DOES have benefits and drawbacks, as i stated in my post.

2) DEFINITELY have both weapon and force skills for 1:1. i think 2int:1str should have weapon skills too. as a hybrid, you'll seldom do enough dmg to one-shot nuke mobs. having weapon skills is essential, especially if you get mobbed by several at once.

3) if you want str, buy str+ gear. but the higher your str is, the lower your mag balance % will be, and the less dmg you will do w/ your ice. it's a trade-off. you have to decide what's best. for me, i have lots of str+ from my gear, and it helps.


thanks for taking the time to post your concerns. if i didn't answer some of your questions, feel free to respond or to PM me :)

[Pan2006]

You are pertty active on forum. Hmm....

Well, I going to use this info to apply my 6 characters on this weekend, I just finish my huge fighting on my HWs x.x

Well, I have so far, 3 pure STR and 2 pure INT, that's why I wanted to make a hybrid to test out.

But I am not sure that Hybrid should SP farm or not. I heard someone said, "No, because you haev not enough power to SP farm at too early LV." Yet, I heard that, "Hybrid should SP farm since they need BOTH Weapon & Force skills." On my plan is: I going to farm anyways, but how long? I am not sure yet...

My current cycle is like this:
3 Accounts -> 1 Vend, 1 Main, 1 Sub
*Main hunting like normal except bow character (PSHunter) who have to stop training and get arrows from sub-characters in Main.
*After Main get certain LVs, the armors will move to Sub to use. Sub use armors and cycle like the Main.
*After Main AND Sub finish use armors, those will go to Vend in stalls and sell overnight.

I have to do this until I get couple millions of gold I think.

And thanks for the infos.

*I think I am not so good on posting in forums, even I tried to be active on forums. Since I am a moderator in MapleStory forum, but only have like 740's posts for over 365 days. (Avg. 2 posts/day) *

RIGHT NOW: HWs, SAT, ACT, and other school stuffs clogging me like block all the free time that I should have. [I am Junior HS, so that's pretty sad, since it is the hardest year of HS before do the College Apps.]

Sincerely, Pan2006 (March 20th, 2006)

[SuicideGrl]

haha i'm one of the semi-moderators around here, i clean up posts and move threads around and lock flame wars and such :) but participating in a forum comminity doesn't have to mean high post counts.

anyway, i think you should definitely far a bit. i'm finally getting to the point where i feel a bit SP starved, but it's because my masteries are only 2 away from my lvl, and SP comes slowly. farming didn't even exist when i started, so i had no idea :)

[Pan2006]

From your opinion... Somewhat True and Somewhat False for me...

For some reasons, some people feel that post counts show how you active on forum. However, I am not good on spamming, say short jokes, or anything. [God, due to my English vocabulary limitation since I use ESL (English as the Second Language), I can barely make a English joke at any conditions at this point.] My post is mostly either of these: Questions, Responses, or Informations. [Sometimes Show-Off, but only a few].

Anyways, I forgot to add that, I read couple of your stories, especially about how ironic NICE "Thief" can be from you. I had been forgot that Thief EXP can get only kill Hunter, but not deduct if you res him/her back.

I would like to be nice, but one problem is, I plan not going to have any heal skills except my HEALER character. So it seem to be that, I can't be nice anymore then. x.x [Since I can't afford to reset skills at anytime.]

Today, it seem to be one of the day that I posting most. (Around 10 ~ 12 posts that I can do MAX, since I type post pretty long and consuming time to type for correct spelling at least) Anyways, you are so nice, seem you know everything!

*I had been try to research some game stuffs to make a guide, but seem most people make skills, stat, SP farm, and other common guides already. It seem to be so hard for me to make any other guide, beside pretty small one or new feature [Which I will NEVER EVER going to have until I have the CC.]*

Ok, done.

Sincerely, Pan2006 (March 20th, 2006)

[SuicideGrl]

i think you'll find that the people don't really care how many posts you have. we're pretty easy here for the most part :)

glad you liked my stories. what is your primary language, and where are you from?

if you have any other questions, why don't you PM me? it sometimes takes me a bit to get back to you, but i always do :)

[Lyrikk]

w00t welcome to the forums Pan. And for the record, i dont think the SRF community is going to judge you by your post count and are usually always willing to help^^

I would like to be nice, but one problem is, I plan not going to have any heal skills except my HEALER character. So it seem to be that, I can't be nice anymore then. x.x [Since I can't afford to reset skills at anytime.]

No need to have heals to show your kindness ^^ there are lots of ways to help out. If you see someone in trouble, step in a bit and help em out.. can always help a struggling trader and etc.
And for your builds, i think you have some strong potentials there. Especially your fire/ice bow. Bow is sometimes tough at lower levels (15-25ish) but most who go bow are very pleased with their choice 30+ (basically they do some strong damage) hope it helps

[SuicideGrl]

ooohhh... thread moved?

<scratches head>

[Pan2006]

*No wonder why I don't see this topic in the Guides section anymore.*

Hmm... my PSHunter is my first character, that's why she is the highest level in my characters set at this point. However, one thing that I having trouble is the arrows for each slot is 250, and for most part, I can gain around 10% to use all arrows up [1500 arrows]. In MapleStory, there is a skill called "Soul Arrow," which you don't have to use arrows after cast it. That will make the bow user don't have to worry about arrows after around LV 40+. However, in SRO, there is no such skill like that. So no matter what LV is, I still have to use arrows. And one problem going to be, as level goes higher, I must reload more often and each round of arrows that I use will gain less % amount of EXP. I don't know how to going to manage my PSHunter in higher level.

Don't say use 10,000 arrows "Item Mall" because I am not going to use "Item Mall" for now. [No real money since my parents don't allow me to use CC for game (since they think that money going to be waste to just pay for the game).]

For my hybrid, I am thinking that she will stick with protector since my 2nd degree protector that I got from drop can boost up to 10 STR and 4 INT. Also, I going to put [1:1] until LV 10 then change to [2 INT: 1 STR] after that to not loose too much magical power.

*Well, I got my first SOS at LV 16 Shield (Blocking Ratio = 16) from Black Tiger and I do SP farm as well, even without SOS or any + LV 16 bow.*

Lyrikk, are you in Troy? I feel like most people play in Xian and not a lot play on Troy. The sad part is all of my characters are below LV 20, so I can't do anything for now.

Also, I can't play any games much due to school. So everything in game will have delay in development.

Sincerely, Pan2006 (March 21st, 2006)

[RaVeNouS]

Erm so im lvl 33 atm, aiming for 1:2 (int) and have this build

91 str
130 int

2k hp
2.5k mp

254 - 301 phy dmg 376 - 460 mag dmg

71% phy balance
81% mag balance

Skills: Fire nuke 1, lightning nuke 1, soul spear 9, ghost spear 6, tiger chain 4, spear passive 3, fire passive 3, grasswalk 7, must piercing force 1.





So... should/can I:

Level my phy skills?
Add 2 int, 1 str or 3 int?
Get skills that add to parry?

[SuicideGrl]

PRIORITY #1: MAX YOUR PIERCING FORCE. most important buff in the game for an int char. after you get done that, adding ranks to your phys skills is ok, but they're already decent for your lvl. i'd focus on lvling your nukes. i have occasinally gone 3int (even went 3str one lvl in my late 30s for a bit more punch). and anything that adds to your parry will ultimately help you take less dmg. hope that helps.

[RaVeNouS]

/\ thx. Btw for builds like yours (sg) and mine, what should our balances be? like i said im on 81% mag and 71% phy

[Lyrikk]

Lyrikk, are you in Troy? I feel like most people play in Xian and not a lot play on Troy.

Sorry for the late response, yes im in Troy

[[SD]Master_Wong]

wow i never bothered to look at guids and help things until now i was going to create a new char but im not to sure now that helps

[SuicideGrl]

/\ thx. Btw for builds like yours (sg) and mine, what should our balances be? like i said im on 81% mag and 71% phy

my balances are each ~75% (not in-game to check for sure). bearing in mind that i was 1:1 for 30 lvls and have been mostly 2:1 since. AND i have all heavily-statted gear.

[kokonutz]

I'm a mostly INT hybrid, but i wanna major in nukes. I'm about to ask tons of stupid questions, so if you can't stand that and will stab me in the face, please stop reading now

1. Does magic damage on your weapon affect nukes?

2. What's the cooldown on the nukes?

3. Will flame body affect my imbues?

4. Does armor affect my weapons?

5. Is there a point in going two imbues?

[enisul]

I'm a mostly INT hybrid, but i wanna major in nukes. I'm about to ask tons of stupid questions, so if you can't stand that and will stab me in the face, please stop reading now

1. Does magic damage on your weapon affect nukes?

2. What's the cooldown on the nukes?

3. Will flame body affect my imbues?

4. Does armor affect my weapons?

5. Is there a point in going two imbues?

1. yes

2. first book are fastest, 2nd book mid, 3rd book high. But you can constantly use 2 2nd books of nukes.

3. no

4. no, but it can help do higher dmg if you have int boosts enough to get your mag balance up.

5. no

[thekwong]

Hey SG just wondering if for your hybrid, if you had to SP farm at all? If not, what level/mastery level difference do you play at?

[SuicideGrl]

Hey SG just wondering if for your hybrid, if you had to SP farm at all? If not, what level/mastery level difference do you play at?

when i started playing SRO, sp farming didn't even really exist yet. i had never heard the term until MUCH later. so i never "farmed" in the accepted sense of the word. however, my masteries were 6 lvls apart until i hit lvl41, at which point i raised them to about equal to help w/ the questless grind from 41-45. i planned on keeping them at 45 for a while, but then i got this ridiculous obsession with hitting lvl50+ by the time the cap was raised, so i kept them really high. right now they're 1 lvl difference, but i plan on getting them yo 50 and them leaving them there for a LONG time, probably till lvl 56 or so.

i need a LOT of SP. my masteries are around 190 now out of 300. i'm going to have to start delvling things soon i think. but i have a list of the things i'm going to axe if it comes to that.

[thekwong]

oooh

[Coelus]

Hi there.. I come from another community and this guide caught my eye.. I've always wanted to try out a different build.. a build where it's unique just like a hybrid one.. But i've a few questions.. I hope SG can answer them..

I'm a str bow user [fire as my imbue]. I'm lvl 17 currently and from lvl 1 till now, i've been adding str.. And since I want to be a hybrid character [2:1 | str:int] , when do I add my int.. Do I add it like say when i've reached lvl 20?.. or do I add it when i'm a much more higher lvl?

Would you recommend me to have ice as well for the buffs.. or is fire enough for the force skills? And if so.. what are the skills that you recommend..

Thanx in advance..

Edit: I hate to pot only after killing like 2-3 black tigers..

[[SD]Master_Wong]

im not sure if its been asked before but are hybrids better with nukes?

[Morraine]

Hi,

im not sure if its been asked before but are hybrids better with nukes?

Why should they? I'm sure a pure Int will always be the most dangerous nuker - think of it: It will have the highest possible magical values, and a nuke is a magical attack, isn't it?

But that's not why i came here, hacking and slaying my way through endless hordes of mindless atrocities, completely spoiling my niceeee Silk Suit with blood and various intestines - anybody knows a good laundry in Jangan or Donwhang?

So I'd like to see a helpful discussion about a balanced/ lightly STR orientated Heuksal hybrid. I'll explain what I mean:
- Glavie is supposed to do massive physical damage, with help of a little bit of magical imbue damage.
- Spear is supposed to help ditching out massive magical damage, with help of a little physical weapon damage.
- So I think to combine: Wearing Glavie with maxed heuksal and good STR, but adding maxed Imbue supported by good INT, too. And some small nukes.

The result should do, AFAIK, less physical damage then a STR heavy, and less magical damage then a INT heavy. But put together phys. and mag. damage i hope some nice values will be possible? I'm speaking of balancing the values of physical and magical damage, thus dishing out enough death and destruction to survive.

ATM I'm at L21, have 78/62 STR/INT nakkieeed (wheee, took some serious time to find a testosteron flooded kiddie safe spot in Jangan ...), 85/70 with gear, and I'm doing quite well. Had last night a Chakij Giant spawning on me all alone in a very mobbed space, had no major problems taking him down. Got about 40 Chakij or more on my quest list while fighting the giant, at one time Giant, 3 champions & 4 or more normal Chakij trying to do a gangbang - well, don't try this on Morraine ... OK, sometimes I manage to have a 1 hit kill on Chakij.

I plan to max Heuksal and Fire, maybe Lightning. Pacheon 20, Cold 30 and Force the rest. I mostly play with friends and definetifely want a rez for our Lvl. And I use to rez everybody and its mother, even if it's a trader whose camel would provide phat lewt for me - I'm sure to be the baddest thief ever - instead of robbing 'em I'm helping ... =8@

I'd like to read some insightful ideas about this hybrid idea. Might it work? ATM I have 2k unused skill points - enough? Should I go INT? Am I doomed? Whats the weather tomorrow in Jangan?

Questions over questions ...
Have fun!

[SuicideGrl]

(answered in a PM but i figured i'd post it here for everyone to see as well)

Hi there.. I come from another community and this guide caught my eye.. I've always wanted to try out a different build.. a build where it's unique just like a hybrid one.. But i've a few questions.. I hope SG can answer them..

I'm a str bow user [fire as my imbue]. I'm lvl 17 currently and from lvl 1 till now, i've been adding str.. And since I want to be a hybrid character [2:1 | str:int] ,

when do I add my int.. Do I add it like say when i've reached lvl 20?.. or do I add it when i'm a much more higher lvl? Also, how do i add it? do i add 2:1 to str.. or do i add int until my overall str is twice my int?

Would you recommend me to have ice as well for the buffs.. or is fire enough for the force skills? And if so.. what are the skills that you recommend..

Thanx in advance..

Edit: I hate to pot only after killing like 2-3 black tigers..

Hope you can answer these.. :)

the first questions i have for you are why 2str:1int? what is your rationale behind this? what are your goals? what purpose is the int you're adding meant to serve your character?

every time you lvl, you get 5 stat points. one is automatically added to each atribute, and the other 3 are left for you to decide. so inessence, someone who goes 2:1 is really going 3:2 per lvl. i would recommend against waiting to add to your secondary attribute, especially waiting until your primary is double your secondary, because both stats are being added to upon attaining every lvl. if you're going to pump int, do it sooner rather than later.

it seems to me that the reason you're adding to int is for greater MP; if so, you may want to get the Force passive skill (can't remember the name off the top of my head, it's a the bottom of the force tree, scroll down), which i believe is available at lvl10. it boosts your MP just as the spear passive boosts your HP. also, you should invest in some int+ gear. the best gear for you would be gear that added to str AND int, preferrably like str+2 int+1 or something. hard to find and a bit more expensive, but worth it. my gear adds +17int and +8 str.

i always recommend that every character - whether hybrid or not - have a primary and a secondary force skill. my primary is fire and my secondary is lightning, but at this point they've almost switched since my lightning mastery is now higher than my fire mastery. the point is that having two of them is a good practice, but only use the imbue from one of them (fire is my imbue, hence why i often refer to fire as my primary even in cases when it's not the highest lvl force). if you choose to pick up ice as your secondary, the status effects it provides - while inhibited by autopill - are still important to consider.

skills you'll definitely want to max are your imbue of choice and the passives from whatever trees you choose. you'll also want to max the buffs in those trees, and your arrow combos and strongest bow attacks. read the descriptions of the skills carefully; if there's another skill later on that sounds like it does the same thing but with much more dmg, then don't pile a bunch of skill points into the skill only to have to delvl it later when you get the better one. put one rank in it and use it as a placeholder until the higher lvl one becomes available.

hope this helped; if you have any other questions, fell free to ask. :)

[SuicideGrl]

(sorry for the double post, but i figured two long replies in the same post would be cluttered)

Hi,

im not sure if its been asked before but are hybrids better with nukes?

Why should they? I'm sure a pure Int will always be the most dangerous nuker - think of it: It will have the highest possible magical values, and a nuke is a magical attack, isn't it?

But that's not why i came here, hacking and slaying my way through endless hordes of mindless atrocities, completely spoiling my niceeee Silk Suit with blood and various intestines - anybody knows a good laundry in Jangan or Donwhang?

So I'd like to see a helpful discussion about a balanced/ lightly STR orientated Heuksal hybrid. I'll explain what I mean:
- Glavie is supposed to do massive physical damage, with help of a little bit of magical imbue damage.
- Spear is supposed to help ditching out massive magical damage, with help of a little physical weapon damage.
- So I think to combine: Wearing Glavie with maxed heuksal and good STR, but adding maxed Imbue supported by good INT, too. And some small nukes.

The result should do, AFAIK, less physical damage then a STR heavy, and less magical damage then a INT heavy. But put together phys. and mag. damage i hope some nice values will be possible? I'm speaking of balancing the values of physical and magical damage, thus dishing out enough death and destruction to survive.

ATM I'm at L21, have 78/62 STR/INT nakkieeed (wheee, took some serious time to find a testosteron flooded kiddie safe spot in Jangan ...), 85/70 with gear, and I'm doing quite well. Had last night a Chakij Giant spawning on me all alone in a very mobbed space, had no major problems taking him down. Got about 40 Chakij or more on my quest list while fighting the giant, at one time Giant, 3 champions & 4 or more normal Chakij trying to do a gangbang - well, don't try this on Morraine ... OK, sometimes I manage to have a 1 hit kill on Chakij.

I plan to max Heuksal and Fire, maybe Lightning. Pacheon 20, Cold 30 and Force the rest. I mostly play with friends and definetifely want a rez for our Lvl. And I use to rez everybody and its mother, even if it's a trader whose camel would provide phat lewt for me - I'm sure to be the baddest thief ever - instead of robbing 'em I'm helping ... =8@

I'd like to read some insightful ideas about this hybrid idea. Might it work? ATM I have 2k unused skill points - enough? Should I go INT? Am I doomed? Whats the weather tomorrow in Jangan?

Questions over questions ...
Have fun!

hmm. interesting build. i think it would work because this is similar to how SG was for about 30 lvls; she was 1:1 str and int, using a spear. that's where i think your idea needs a bit if adjustment. if you're primary star is str, and your secondary is int, than you're going to naturally do more physical dmg. so why not pick a weapon that will boost your mag dmg instead? that will more closely balance the amount of dmg you'll be able to do with each type of attack. if you do the math, you'll see that that's the only way you'll truly "balance" a char like this.

a balanced character like you're proposing will be a decent tank (as you proved w/ your chakji massacre), but i worry about the potency of its nukes. you migt want to experiment with this a bit. you're going to deal decent front-end dmg as a str primary, but make sure whatever weapon you choose - spear or glaive - has a high crit. otherwise your battles will either be very very long (due to the fact that you can tank a lot but don't to good dmg) or very very short (due to the fact that you can't deal big enogh dmg fast enough to get the kill before you die).

i hope this helps, let me know if there's more :)

[[SD]Master_Wong]

yeh thnx a lot lol