What Chinese builds hold up best against Euros?

[hitokiri]

I remember on Venus, on my 1h Warrior/Warlock I tanked & killed 2 Glavies at once, beat a blader higher then me, and don't really remember nukers doing much. (They also didnt seem as experienced in pvp possibly which is why, may not be the build)

I didnt get to level a chinese myself and pvp euros, and have always wondered what builds would be able to be a threat to them really? I always saw them tossed to the side, but could be that those people just sucked

I usually do a Hybrid, which I am thinking may be the way to go. I usually do on with 85 mag balance, however was watching some videos and considering 70:70 Bicheon or spear hybrid.

But anyways, im curious. What about str Bladers/Glaives/Pacheon or full ints, or even other hybrids? If anyone has some knowledge id be very interested in it. Thanks

[jay0303]

i can only talk about,s/s int pure because i don't have much experience with any other builds.
and i can kill almost all european under certain conditions.

warrios-
they usualy do high damage and knock me around all over the place(with their sheild and 2-h sword)
1) I start of with ice imbune chain because if they use sprint and stop my nuke no point in wasting time.
2) have mana shield on duhh...
3) i don't use my castle shield skill unless i know im going to be in danger because the warrior don't do crit every hit (thank God) so i keep it in reserves for a rainy day.
4) now here where it separate,
a) if they are frozen stand there and nuke them
b) if they got pills start knock down stab and then teleport and nuke.
5) by now either hes dead or i am lol
though i can say i mostly win.

rouge/wizz
1) with rouge i usualy thrown up shield for phy defence and use quick attack, shouts and snakes
2) if i am alive i usualy move in and use chain on them
3) umm
a) chain killed them i win
ba) wizz hit me with high damage im out
bb) rouge did crit on me im out
bc) i owned them and taking my wins and getting out of there
( i hate pvp rouge/wiz its too fast win/lose)

nvr fought a battle bard i want to try it

cleric i can some what kill without there buff other wise it's hellla annoying( so i just usualy walk away) usless they use offering and my shield doesn't block then i take my lose, though i have nvr died from a cleric unless they use offering

warlock well i kill them and they die my self happened 2twice out of 5 wins lol

[hitokiri]

Doesnt ice imbue not take effect if there is holy word? I cant remember. And reason i loved sub warlock is the debuff to bring chinese pot time to same as euro, so the locks are dangerous

Thanks for your input

[Pan_Raider(`_´)]

OT:
Currently chinese builds can't oppose warriors who can play without a really good set,
but luck is also part of the game.

the biggest threat to euros are int based heuksal/bicheon builds and full str up to hybrid bowers.
the int based ones throw around enough damage to keep the euros healing or trying to stop them.
Well timed KD's or stun usually end it.


Bowers just need 2 crits to raise alarm signs (which is very likely)
-for warriors, try and keep them from using Dare Devil using KB.
-for rogues, use knocback when you see them charge for KD
-for wizards, kb can kill them, normally 1 hit kill
-for bards, kill them


glaive and blader in general need high criticals on their weapons to become dangerous, whereas landing a few consecutive hits with a glaive after stunning the target normally does the job

[XMoshe]

Only reason a lock is great against chinese is idd the debuffs. Besides the pills they can't do much, unless they are force but you hardly see that. Str archer seems the best to me with stun/kb/fire anc ice wall (if it's a pach/fire/ice build ofcourse).

[SkorpioN555]

well str blader can kill... but only with luck and good crits ^^
against str euros it ends as a pot war against int ones a crit will do it ^^...
there are some wizards that are good so they wont die too fast ^^. and of xourse if u dont pay attantion u can easily get killed by them. warlock are unfair against chiniese ^^ they stop u debuff u and slowly kill while ucant do anything exept expenvie pills. senn normal warlock kill full son people. chinese chars weakness is a warlock ^^

[jay0303]

skorpian i know what u mean about warlocks, they are a pain

[Goseki]

Chinese Imbue effects will go through if holy spell is not maxed or acc they have sucks. I've pvped a few euros at high lvls who didn't bother pimping acc since they think their holy spell was god. I quickly convinced them to go do some alchemy after some nice 10-0.

Don't underestimate ice. I've known some 11d people who have bad acc and say it takes about 2-3 of those special med to completely thaw out. Shit saves your life if their acc sucks.

[aishsharma]

I'm trying to make a hybrid blader now that i can log in, if JM can keep up their anti gold bot scheme then i'll let u know how it works out

[BuDo]

Blader..full str.....can drain their HP due to their pot delay...and can tank their attack real well.

[Goseki]

Blader..full str.....can drain their HP due to their pot delay...and can tank their attack real well.

LoL. Blader for non-clerics maybe...

[Amro]

blader can survive a lot
cant say which hold up best against them, mostly all
and yea, s/s ints can survive a bit against warriors(unless they double DD crit), and they have nice dmg, enough to kill warriors, and lv110 stab is great & mostly ending skill

also, holy spell is like 90% immunity, you need 10% on accessories to be full immune