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Magical attack increase for pure STR?

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Ok, so I read a few guides for a Pure STR Bower, and some of them mentioned "Piercing force" (so the buff that increases magical attack with a certain %), that I should take it. But what's the point in having magical attack increase, when you're pure STR? I'm not really into Chinese builds yet, so I might miss something out, but it doesn't really make sense to me.
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Imbues have mag atk pwr -> higher dmg with imbue with the lite buff on.
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Sacrosanctus wrote:Imbues have mag atk pwr -> higher dmg with imbue with the lite buff on.


You forgot to mention it's completely useless for a str character.

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the mag atk buff doesnt do a huge difference for a str char, but it still helps a bit
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I'm confused. One says it's useless for Pure STR, one other says it's good with Imbue?
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try to hit with and without imbue, u'll see it does increase ur dmg even being full str

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Tsume wrote:
Sacrosanctus wrote:Imbues have mag atk pwr -> higher dmg with imbue with the lite buff on.


You forgot to mention it's completely useless for a str character.


Huh?

But take it, it makes a difference.
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Ok, thanks :)
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It's like taking flame body on a pure int. Increases ur dmg by like 100-300 dmg...
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If you are in sp need spend it on other stuff first (grass walk/ghost walk/passive/parry)
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I'm not really in SP need, I'm playing a 4 gap, if I see I'm coming short of SP, I'll just open it to 5 gap, no problem :P Was just wondering if I should drop it, but now it seems it has its usefulness, I'll keep leveling it :)
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both str and int chars use both phys and mag.

a str char uses imbue which is mag., and like it was mentioned above try hitting with and without imbue, there is a difference

an int char also use phys, when using weapon skills(bich/huek/pacc) some dmg is still phy., im an int spear, and flame body does incerase my dmg even though its a phys atk increase

ofc its different, int chars dont crit as hard and str chars dont hit as high, but there is a differnece even if its opposite of wat u r
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Tsume wrote:
Sacrosanctus wrote:Imbues have mag atk pwr -> higher dmg with imbue with the lite buff on.


You forgot to mention it's completely useless for a str character.


Cuz I think it isn't?
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Goseki wrote:It's like taking flame body on a pure int. Increases ur dmg by like 100-300 dmg...

not rly.. max both flame body and lvl 11 passive, total 22% phy dmg increase. a pure int's crits will be worthfully higher

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as long as it helps you kill, any buff is fine :roll:
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Cryolite wrote:
Goseki wrote:It's like taking flame body on a pure int. Increases ur dmg by like 100-300 dmg...

not rly.. max both flame body and lvl 11 passive, total 22% phy dmg increase. a pure int's crits will be worthfully higher


PHY DMG inc, not mag. It only increases the dmg you deal without ur imbue. The total dmg inflicted is phy dmg + mag dmg, hence the dmg only rockets up when imbue is on for an int.

The 22% would help u prob hit like 500 more dmg tops. Just take whatever value u get when u crit without imbue, multiply by 1.22, than add in the imbue dmg. Imbue dmg would be attack dmg when imbue is on - attack dmg when imbue is off. U'll see it's pretty darn big.
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Goseki wrote:
Cryolite wrote:
Goseki wrote:It's like taking flame body on a pure int. Increases ur dmg by like 100-300 dmg...

not rly.. max both flame body and lvl 11 passive, total 22% phy dmg increase. a pure int's crits will be worthfully higher


PHY DMG inc, not mag. It only increases the dmg you deal without ur imbue. The total dmg inflicted is phy dmg + mag dmg, hence the dmg only rockets up when imbue is on for an int.

The 22% would help u prob hit like 500 more dmg tops. Just take whatever value u get when u crit without imbue, multiply by 1.22, than add in the imbue dmg. Imbue dmg would be attack dmg when imbue is on - attack dmg when imbue is off. U'll see it's pretty darn big.

i never denied that its the mag dmg that makes the difference, but a higher phy dmg, even if pretty low, still helps, thats my point.

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Cryolite wrote:
Goseki wrote:
Cryolite wrote:not rly.. max both flame body and lvl 11 passive, total 22% phy dmg increase. a pure int's crits will be worthfully higher


PHY DMG inc, not mag. It only increases the dmg you deal without ur imbue. The total dmg inflicted is phy dmg + mag dmg, hence the dmg only rockets up when imbue is on for an int.

The 22% would help u prob hit like 500 more dmg tops. Just take whatever value u get when u crit without imbue, multiply by 1.22, than add in the imbue dmg. Imbue dmg would be attack dmg when imbue is on - attack dmg when imbue is off. U'll see it's pretty darn big.

i never denied that its the mag dmg that makes the difference, but a higher phy dmg, even if pretty low, still helps, thats my point.


And it's my point that it helps about as much as a lvl 1 black hawk. I've pvped and grind with the buff on and off, and there's no diff. The dmg is the same, at times i might hit like 6250 instead of 6150 during a pvp... woot. that 100 dmg will def make or break in a pvp with ppl having 50k+ hp now.
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Every little bit helps

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atlanser wrote:Every little bit helps

not when youre sp farming...
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_c0nflict_ wrote:
atlanser wrote:Every little bit helps

not when youre sp farming...

oh rlly?

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Magical attack increase is only useless for European STR chars.
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Tia wrote:
_c0nflict_ wrote:
atlanser wrote:Every little bit helps

not when youre sp farming...

oh rlly?

oh yes tia, really.... :wink:
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