Nuker-built , but which ? SS-Nuker

weanLsyc · Post by **weanLsyc** » Tue Dec 22, 2009 6:33 pm

I'm thinking of starting a new character, a nuker( i think SS ).

But since there are so many possible builts to choose, I want to ask YOU which skill possibilities would you recommend me?

Bicheon 100 / Cold 100 / Light 100 Full int

Bicheon 100/ Cold 100 / Fire 100 ( if Fire 100, shall i go slightly hybrid ? For example: 9:1)

or other builts? 70:70 ? ...

It doesn't matter how much sp the ss would need.My ss nuker shall be a char which is fun to play, because I like PvPs,FW,jobbing etc.

Tasdik · Post by **Tasdik** » Tue Dec 22, 2009 6:52 pm

I've always liked 100bich/100ice/100fire. Strongest of all the builds IMO. Only real downside is no grasswalk/phantom. But you can easily replace that with a bard or speed pots.

You could go hybrid, but I don't really think you'll need it much. But if you want to 9:1 is fine.

Burningwolf · Post by **Burningwolf** » Tue Dec 22, 2009 6:55 pm

Tasdik wrote:I've always liked 100bich/100ice/100fire. Strongest of all the builds IMO. Only real downside is no grasswalk/phantom. But you can easily replace that with a bard or speed pots.

You could go hybrid, but I don't really think you'll need it much. But if you want to 9:1 is fine.

oh hell now
you just replaced lightning on a int build for fire?

HELL NAW!

jyushinshuu · Post by **jyushinshuu** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 2:54 am

Tasdik wrote:I've always liked 100bich/100ice/100fire. Strongest of all the builds IMO. Only real downside is no grasswalk/phantom. But you can easily replace that with a bard or speed pots.

You could go hybrid, but I don't really think you'll need it much. But if you want to 9:1 is fine.

+1 I also think that is the strongest build.

@Burningwolf light only gives you grasswalk and phantom but not the overall damage. bich/fire/cold is a lot better damage than bich/light/cold.

Burningwolf · Post by **Burningwolf** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 3:25 am

wats the name of that skull skill?

max piercing?

DAT SHIT IS IMPORTANT FOR NUKAHS

Tasdik · Post by **Tasdik** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 4:01 am

Silly Wolfy, fire's imbue + nukes increase in damage over light's makes up for not having that. <3

Burningwolf · Post by **Burningwolf** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 5:25 am

silly tasdik
remember lightning last nuke and how much it kicks ass?
hmmm....

remember FW, and jobbin phantom is needed?

hmmm fast = fun

Goseki · Post by **Goseki** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 5:31 am

I've messed around with both. I use ice imbue a lot, but overall, I'd say if you want mobility + slightly higher dmg and less farming, go bich ice light. If you want better def + walls, go bich fire ice.

The only downside for each is no immunity for bich ice light, and no dash to help with pvping xbow and bowers for bich fire ice.

I'm pretty sure max dmg output is higher on light ice, due to the mag dmg. The fire nukes have higher 330%, but that's relative to your int points, which can be reduced from opponents defense. The mag dmg just adds outright dmg. So if fire nuked 20k, light might nuke 18k, but than it's multiplied by 18%, so that's around 21k.

jyushinshuu · Post by **jyushinshuu** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 5:47 am

we have tested and proven that bich/fire/cold has the highest overall dmg. my char is this build and a friend has light/cold. the only problem is no phantom.

it is also a fact that bich/fire/cold is for pvp build whereas bich/light/cold is for pve.

karimgh · Post by **karimgh** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 12:00 pm

A Quick question
Wht about 100Bich/100light/60fire/40Ice???

jyushinshuu · Post by **jyushinshuu** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 2:26 pm

^^ it will suck, either max the skill tree or don't get it at all.

weanLsyc · Post by **weanLsyc** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 2:45 pm

Thanks for all responses =)

I think ill go for Bicheon Fire Cold

But shall i go slightly hybrid or Full Int?

jyushinshuu · Post by **jyushinshuu** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 3:37 pm

full int of course, just have good gears and accessories. in this build you could also go protector. to be balanced.

zico · Post by **zico** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 6:32 pm

im lv 82 full int bicheon fire cold and i really enjoy it...good phy def and good mag att so what else ??????

with a nice set prot +5 and nice sword/shield i do well in pvp even if its against euro warrior

so ill say ...choose cold fire nuker

weanLsyc · Post by **weanLsyc** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 9:38 pm

Btw is it true that light is going to be better than fire ( for nukers) in later caps?

Goseki · Post by **Goseki** » Thu Dec 24, 2009 6:17 am

Later caps you get over mag dmg 20%. Prob will be around 25% by end cap when that comes. So imagine nuking instead of 20k, you nuke for 25k. Light might still get another skill book. Kinda like how fire and ice got detection and snow shield. Light is missing a book if you look carefully. It's all a gamble really.

jyushinshuu · Post by **jyushinshuu** » Fri Dec 25, 2009 3:55 am

even at 20% mag damage increase, fire has still the best damage outcome and lightning nukes are so unstable due very large damage range.

^^ what book that might be??

nohunta · Post by **nohunta** » Fri Dec 25, 2009 6:26 pm

karimgh wrote:A Quick question
Wht about 100Bich/100light/60fire/40Ice???

\

Itll suck eggs.

100Bich/100Fire/60lIGHT/40iCE

Thats a pretty decent build if you ask me. You make up defence cus of your shield but you wont have nearly as much.

aishsharma · Post by **aishsharma** » Sat Dec 26, 2009 6:10 pm

nohunta wrote:
karimgh wrote:A Quick question
Wht about 100Bich/100light/60fire/40Ice???
\

Itll suck eggs.

100Bich/100Fire/60lIGHT/40iCE

Thats a pretty decent build if you ask me. You make up defence cus of your shield but you wont have nearly as much.

this is a hybrid build like maybe 5:1...dont do it on a pure int EVER

Pan_Raider(`_´) · Post by **Pan_Raider(`_´)** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 9:59 am

aishsharma wrote:
nohunta wrote:
karimgh wrote:A Quick question
Wht about 100Bich/100light/60fire/40Ice???
\

Itll suck eggs.

100Bich/100Fire/60lIGHT/40iCE

Thats a pretty decent build if you ask me. You make up defence cus of your shield but you wont have nearly as much.

this is a hybrid build like maybe 5:1...dont do it on a pure int EVER

exactly, i got a nuker from a friend recently and went 59% phys : 85% mag so the 1:5 int build and its really good with 100Bich/100Fire/60lIGHT/40iCE
only problem is that the low snow shield has to be replaced with better equipment

aishsharma · Post by **aishsharma** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 3:58 pm

w8 w8 w8 isnt that 5:1 build for str hybrids, i thought 5:1 int hybrid had 60 ice/40 light

btw any1 ever tried a 5:1 hybrid blader 100 bich/fire 60 light 40 ice? how's it do in pvp/pve better dmg than pure str?

fckerr · Post by **fckerr** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 4:47 pm

Fire/cold is for spear users since they benefit very much from fire(phy attk buff and passive). For s/s light/cold is the most common build.

weanLsyc · Post by **weanLsyc** » Sat Jan 02, 2010 10:48 am

Maybe I'll go for 95Lvl INT and the last 5 levels STR.

Fire Cold Bicheon built I guess

zico · Post by **zico** » Sat Jan 02, 2010 10:48 pm

best choice

timmyla90 · Post by **timmyla90** » Sun Jan 10, 2010 7:36 pm

Do not be influenced by people on forums. Its obvious that they dont know much about ss nukers. Most of these people are just guessing... ffs .. go 100 bich light ice

My char is 9int:1str hybrid ss nukers and i never lost to any fire builds.

jyushinshuu wrote:we have tested and proven that bich/fire/cold has the highest overall dmg. my char is this build and a friend has light/cold. the only problem is no phantom.

it is also a fact that bich/fire/cold is for pvp build whereas bich/light/cold is for pve.

Were you using the same weapon when tested? Same eqs? Same build? Same lvl? You can only conclude one build is better than the other if you tested it under those circumstances.

I personally have no objection with fire but i am a light person and always been loving it.

I suggest you not to make a fire nuker.

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