Chinese pvp class?

[mario123]

ya i just made a chinese to use for pvp. Im think im gonna make him a nuker but not sure since i dont know anything about chineses or their builds. My question is What build should i be? what mastery ? Hybrid? Pure?. If you have any other pvp Chinese class builds suggestions dont be afraid to post it ! (Just make sure its good at pvp)

Sp amount is not a problem

[mario123]

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[Fimero]

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i will fill in for him

make chinese lightning force glaive, it makes full lightning damage.

yea thats a fail
force is good but not light
for chinese pvp i will rank them in order of what i think (and pretty much everyone else) is the best for pvp
bow
blader
s/s nuker
glaive
spear
of course bow is something serious at 100 cap
bladers are always deadly with the debuffs
s/s nuker is amazing when in snowshield outside its ok
glaives seem to lack at this cap but can still be good if known how to play
spears i wanna love them since i used to have a hybrid but they just dont cut it anymore

[omier]

Force blader.

[slimshady]

Force blader.

Lol blader with force is the most fail build ive ever heard, you got chains and stabs for debuffs, why the **** do you go force when you can be alot better with ice, and force users get whipped in the ass by clerics.

Chinese characters have lightning magical damage increase buff. and fire you will kill all 1 hit. Brother, farming not needed if you make fire and lightning because very high damage. Dont make cold, is very noob. Full damage magical and fire.

Ya im ruining ppls builds.

[Fimero]

Force blader.

Lol blader with force is the most fail build ive ever heard, you got chains and stabs for debuffs, why the **** do you go force when you can be alot better with ice, and force users get whipped in the ass by clerics.

Chinese characters have lightning magical damage increase buff. and fire you will kill all 1 hit. Brother, farming not needed if you make fire and lightning because very high damage. Dont make cold, is very noob. Full damage magical and fire.

Ya im ruining ppls builds.

xD
but i do agree force doesnt fit blader well just because it already has debuffs
but its good for adding more debuffs if they were pilled

[strangelove]

but i do agree force doesnt fit blader well just because it already has debuffs
but its good for adding more debuffs if they were pilled

That's exactly how you play a force blader effectively. You use your Force debuffs after (and if) the opponent pills off the bicheon status effects, giving you a small window to inflict much higher damage while their purification pills are still on cooldown.

[Fimero]

but i do agree force doesnt fit blader well just because it already has debuffs
but its good for adding more debuffs if they were pilled

That's exactly how you play a force blader effectively. You use your Force debuffs after (and if) the opponent pills off the bicheon status effects, giving you a small window to inflict much higher damage while their purification pills are still on cooldown.

i know this
but i just think there are better trees for blader
and since most euros are clerics that tree is dulled a lot
and even some chinese have cleric buffs on them
unless its a legit pvp then a force blader will be very good against chinese
for all around pvp though i would go with bich/fire maxed and a combination of light and cold

[aishsharma]

hmm well

int builds:
100 ice/fire/bich pure int or slight hybrid

str builds:
100 ice/fire/blader
100 ice/fire/glavie
100 fire/force/blader
100 fire/force/glavie
100 ice/fire/bow
100 fire/force/bow

hope that helps you

[strangelove]

i know this
but i just think there are better trees for blader
and since most euros are clerics that tree is dulled a lot
and even some chinese have cleric buffs on them
unless its a legit pvp then a force blader will be very good against chinese
for all around pvp though i would go with bich/fire maxed and a combination of light and cold

"Better" is pretty subjective. Having a full Cold tree will only raise physical defense, which can alternatively be done by using better gear. A full Light tree will raise parry and magical damage, which can alternatively be done by raising parry on gear and or lowering other's parry with Force debuffs. Don't look at other masteries you could have and only see what you're missing out on. Compensate for loses and balance out the character. Force Bladers make very good group war medics. Very hard to take down (unless they zerk) so they can go around ressing others.

OP: Here's a suggestion; make a character that is enjoyable to you.

[Fimero]

i know this
but i just think there are better trees for blader
and since most euros are clerics that tree is dulled a lot
and even some chinese have cleric buffs on them
unless its a legit pvp then a force blader will be very good against chinese
for all around pvp though i would go with bich/fire maxed and a combination of light and cold

"Better" is pretty subjective. Having a full Cold tree will only raise physical defense, which can alternatively be done by using better gear. A full Light tree will raise parry and magical damage, which can alternatively be done by raising parry on gear and or lowering other's parry with Force debuffs. Don't look at other masteries you could have and only see what you're missing out on. Compensate for loses and balance out the character. Force Bladers make very good group war medics. Very hard to take down (unless they zerk) so they can go around ressing others.

OP: Here's a suggestion; make a character that is enjoyable to you.

im saying better for every build out there and not just un-holy users
full cold imo isnt good for a blader
and even so getting better gear will solve that
getting better gear + having cold tree is a lot more phys def
although i do agree that they can act as a group medic there are plent other clerics and warlocks to do the job better
i would get light to get phantom walk and the rest get cold
i had this build and at 78 i could kill 80's
which is a big difference because they get most of the next degree of armor

[mario123]

wow nice replies =]

i think im deciding between force blader, fire/cold blader or s/s nuker

[Fimero]

wow nice replies =]

i think im deciding between force blader, fire/cold blader or s/s nuker

force blader- rape nonholy users and somewhat more helpful in groups.
fire/cold at 100 isnt recommended but the extra def will benefit a lot and help do what a bladers job is, which is tank.
s/s nuker- what kind? obviously cold maxed.

[very intelligent]

Actually every str build needs cold, and to the guys that are saying that the def you get from cold can be fixed with attribute %, thats just bullshit, either way you would have 336 more physical defense than a light user, and yes 60 parry can be fixed with good whites like 60-80% white gives alot more parry than 20% white. Well i suggest you to make a spear hybrid, between 3:1-5:1 with build like 100heuk/fire mixed cold and light, best mix is 66 cold 34 light. In the end its all up to what kind of build you like.

[Jocka]

I suggest, Pure STR bow or glavie. Both can tank, great at pvp, and good at pve/uniques/jobbing. They both can do great in pvp. If your going for a char just based on pvp, i suggest Pure STR glavie. With 100 heuksal/fire/ice. Hope i helped

[strangelove]

Actually every str build needs cold, and to the guys that are saying that the def you get from cold can be fixed with attribute %, thats just bullshit, either way you would have 336 more physical defense than a light user

It's illogical to say that all STR-based builds need Cold when their physical defense is already high to begin with. Any extra physical defense from cold is a good bonus, but most certainly not a necessity. The Cold mastery does not offer STR-based builds as many advantages as it does INT-based builds and to say otherwise is just spouting ignorance of basic game mechanics. Having a good set can offset the lack of a Cold defense bonus and will essentially serve the same function. You obviously cannot offset a whole mastery entirely but using your other masteries to make your opponent's defense irrelevant will be just as, if not more, effective.

[Fimero]

Actually every str build needs cold, and to the guys that are saying that the def you get from cold can be fixed with attribute %, thats just bullshit, either way you would have 336 more physical defense than a light user

It's illogical to say that all STR-based builds need Cold when their physical defense is already high to begin with. Any extra physical defense from cold is a good bonus, but most certainly not a necessity. The Cold mastery does not offer STR-based builds as many advantages as it does INT-based builds and to say otherwise is just spouting ignorance of basic game mechanics. Having a good set can offset the lack of a Cold defense bonus and will essentially serve the same function. You obviously cannot offset a whole mastery entirely but using your other masteries to make your opponent's defense irrelevant will be just as, if not more, effective.

agreed
its not needed
but i say it better since there are alot more str's pvping
get a balance on light/cold to whatever you want
if you want more def get more cold
if you want more speed get more light
getting cold just enough for phantam walk is what i did
and the rest into cold

[very intelligent]

lol, ive seen 100 lvl guys with fire/light and i can say that they dont stand a chance against euro str's, euros need 1 crit from dd and its 30k 15k.Cold gives better things than light, ALOT better things like ice wall, better snow, massive phy def and cold imbue against light/cold nukers.light gives? speed, can be fixed with speed pots/scrolls, parry, fixed with good whites, only thing you gonna miss from light is phantom.

[Fimero]

lol, ive seen 100 lvl guys with fire/light and i can say that they dont stand a chance against euro str's, euros need 1 crit from dd and its 30k 15k.Cold gives better things than light, ALOT better things like ice wall, better snow, massive phy def and cold imbue against light/cold nukers.light gives? speed, can be fixed with speed pots/scrolls, parry, fixed with good whites, only thing you gonna miss from light is phantom.

yea pretty much for a str light doesnt benefit besides the speed
and if your serious about pvp your gonna be maxed so at that point you can buy speed

[very intelligent]

lol, ive seen 100 lvl guys with fire/light and i can say that they dont stand a chance against euro str's, euros need 1 crit from dd and its 30k 15k.Cold gives better things than light, ALOT better things like ice wall, better snow, massive phy def and cold imbue against light/cold nukers.light gives? speed, can be fixed with speed pots/scrolls, parry, fixed with good whites, only thing you gonna miss from light is phantom.

yea pretty much for a str light doesnt benefit besides the speed
and if your serious about pvp your gonna be maxed so at that point you can buy speed

What?

[Jovan]

I wud go for Pure str bowman 100 pach/fire 80 light 20 cold , snow sheild is only needed for a bower as u can stop str plyrs from attacking u using ur kb as they got no range . Light is needed as mag attack buff increases ur dmg .

[Jocka]

I will tell you right now, if your making a pure STR, you will want to get cold, for defense bonus...its much needed. You will also need your main skill whether it be hueksal or pacheon and fire. Fire is offensive, cold is defensive, its the perfect balance. You will have to buy drugs for speed, but it's no problem. Skills > Money

[Jovan]

No need for more phy defence as KB stops phy attacks from str plyrs as they got no range! Bow fire cold wont be able to kill any build!

[Amarisa]

No need for more phy defence as KB stops phy attacks from str plyrs as they got no range! Bow fire cold wont be able to kill any build!

you can get 100% speed drugs and you need light max (or something close) to get to 100%. if your wearing garms and you have ice you get 120% speed with a nice phy def. honestly i don't see why str builds would even think of light.

[fckerr]

Very strong and rare but very hard to level up is fire/heuskal/bicheon full str. Consider taking light instead of bicheon for faster leveling and on lvl 100 delevel light for bicheon

[Fimero]

lol, ive seen 100 lvl guys with fire/light and i can say that they dont stand a chance against euro str's, euros need 1 crit from dd and its 30k 15k.Cold gives better things than light, ALOT better things like ice wall, better snow, massive phy def and cold imbue against light/cold nukers.light gives? speed, can be fixed with speed pots/scrolls, parry, fixed with good whites, only thing you gonna miss from light is phantom.

yea pretty much for a str light doesnt benefit besides the speed
and if your serious about pvp your gonna be maxed so at that point you can buy speed

What?

if your serious about pvp your gonna be maxed at cap, so at that point you can buy speed cuz you have the money for it.

[very intelligent]

[quote="Fimeroyea pretty much for a str light doesnt benefit besides the speed
and if your serious about pvp your gonna be maxed so at that point you can buy speed

What?

if your serious about pvp your gonna be maxed at cap, so at that point you can buy speed cuz you have the money for it.

Ok now i understoood, And yea, bower fire/ice vs blader fire/ice is a neverending pot fight. Make bow/fire and force, duff and huge crits. Heuk/bich and fire is good too, you have both mag and phy 15 sec, huge def and huge hp, just put division and bleed then switch glaive and hope for a crit .