Why LA for Warrior/Cleric ?

[Jadekiss]

I dont get it.. why should a warrior/cleric take LA ?
You get only the passive from cleric when you switch to cleric rod.. but if you wear the warrior weapons.. you dont get anything lol
wouldnt robe better fit for a warrior because of the high mag def + 20% less mp using bonus ?

LA doesnt look really usefull to me..

Discuss and explain pls xD

[ryUm]

if you can afford a decent set and tank with light armor the int builds, then go for light armor and the str builds will have a harder time to kill you
pvp wise there are more str builds than int builds
blader bower glavier warrior rogue > nuker warlock wizard

[Jadekiss]

oh well but then a full str glavie should also wear a decent protector set ? o.O
robe still sound better than LA

[NuclearSilo]

Jadekiss returned to sro again?

Robe + some amount of healing
LA + def

Each has its advantage.

[Puma60]

If there are more STRs on your server, it could be better for PvPing against them.

[Jadekiss]

Oh well no im spending my times on weird stuff
Im not playing sro again yet =)
Im just confused about the vids with warrior in LA.. doesnt fit for me
thats why im asking for details
sro is a unique game but im not feeling ready yet to come back lol

[NuclearSilo]

either play private server or csro/vsro, I wouldn't recommend iSRO

[Ningyotsukai-san]

Robes only offer slightly higher heals (w/ cleric rod) 'n higher base magical defense .....LA offers higher phy / mag def (w/ passives) and higher resistance to debuffs .....ppl choose LA because it's in between the spectrum of mag / phy def; it's easy to tank both ints / strs ...whereas Robes are nice to tank ints with a harder time with strs and HA are nice to tank strs, but not as strong to tank ints...

[Azavel]

Full str+ HA= problems against chineses nukes and euro ints. LA maybe more balance.

[Jadekiss]

oh well so if ppl cant afford a decent LA set.. should they go robe then ?

[BlitZ]

Go robes.
LA would only be usefull in 3 situations:
1- When healing yourself in pvp - that only takes about 1-3 secs if done well so the passives would be pretty useless.
2 - When you're Knocked Down - I'd rather have the 1h passives (higher BR, more phy def and higher crit parry ratio) over the cleric ones in those situations because they will save your life against rogues that use the KD > DD > mortal wounds thing.
3- When you're the cleric in your grinding party - Hm... You are STR so you should survive with ease without the passives.

I find the robes passives more usefull.
- you can spam heals if having a hard time tanking due to the low mana consumption and it heals ~20% more.
- you can tank wizzies and nukers easily because of the high mag def. And those are the opponents you should be worried about since STRs are easier to tank.

So yeah... Go robes

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[_Scarlett_]

Faith offers about a 20% increased healing rate, decreased chance of curse statuses (fear); Charity offers increased defense/int/str when giving out buffs, and an decreased chance of weakening statuses to land (debuffs)

In LA with your cleric rod out warlocks can't land statuses on you (or at least when I still played; I dunno if JM messed with that since I quit); you'll also have more defense than Robes or HA when you buff youself; this gives you more tankability.

Overall the Charity passive offers more use from your cleric passive to yourself and others; you give increased defense and STR/INT, you also have decreased chances of getting debuffs; LA is a balance between HA and Robes; if you can't afford a set of HA AND Robes, just get--or make, a good LA set.

[Jadekiss]

Go robes.
LA would only be usefull in 3 situations:
1- When healing yourself in pvp - that only takes about 1-3 secs if done well so the passives would be pretty useless.
2 - When you're Knocked Down - I'd rather have the 1h passives (higher BR, more phy def and higher crit parry ratio) over the cleric ones in those situations because they will save your life against rogues that use the KD > DD > mortal wounds thing.
3- When you're the cleric in your grinding party - Hm... You are STR so you should survive with ease without the passives.

I find the robes passives more usefull.
- you can spam heals if having a hard time tanking due to the low mana consumption and it heals ~20% more.
- you can tank wizzies and nukers easily because of the high mag def. And those are the opponents you should be worried about since STRs are easier to tank.

So yeah... Go robes

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Thats excatly what im thinking about LA and Robe
Quite convincing lol

@_Scarlett_ yeah you have higher def.. but only when you are wearing that gay cleric rod.. warrios arent supposed to stand their and tank ..I think.. i prefer fast healing without MP problems so i can spam attack skills again lol

doesnt that sound quite realistic ?

[Oryx]

Last tier robe +5 set mag def (using 0%): 2,052.9
Last tier LA +5 set mag def (using 0%): 1,866.4
Total difference in mag def: 186.5
Level 96 favor armor passive: 253 mag def inc

This means that LA > robe versus all full str chars, and robe > LA against full int chars only if cleric rod is not on. Nobody bothers to do this, but it is actually possible to switch to cleric rod (or shield) right before a nuke is finished, then go back to a 2h or axe. If you get knocked down by any build, LA would be much better than robes whether you choose to use 1h passives against rogues/warriors or the cleric passives versus bladers/s/s nukers.

Regarding magical damage, mostly in pvp you come across spear nukers, s/s nukers, wizards, and warlocks. Wizards and warlocks should be easy to kill even with LA on. Warlocks may be trickier due to their double stuns, but just one daredevil which doesn't block should finish them off. Versus spear nukers and s/s nukers, you would probably be better off trying to interrupt their nukes instead of trying to tank them, because magical damage hits hard whether you're in robes or LA. Of course, you have the option of using bless/skins/grains, but that doesn't help the argument either way.

Robes will heal 20% more with instant cast skills, but these are not not really spammable (recovery has 5s cooldown, group recovery is ~15s, and heal cycle/recovery division don't heal more when you stop using cleric rod). However, the mp consumption is only 10% less. So while you're healing 20% more, you're tanking less (I don't know how to calculate this).

And going back to what you said above, some str glaivers do in fact wear prot sets. Phy damage can hit hard, even on Chinese chars with no pot delay.

Finally, one of the best things about the LA passives is the ridiculously stronger buffs that you can give to people. At level 100, you would give 43+15 str, 45+15 int, plus a bonus 59 phy and 92 mag def increase on top of body and soul deity.

[_Scarlett_]

Thats excatly what im thinking about LA and Robe
Quite convincing lol

@_Scarlett_ yeah you have higher def.. but only when you are wearing that gay cleric rod.. warriors arent supposed to stand their and tank ..I think.. i prefer fast healing without MP problems so i can spam attack skills again lol

doesnt that sound quite realistic ?

Sounding realistic and being realistic are quite different:

You won't encounter healing with MP problems if you know what you're doing; you don't need to be spamming heals in most situations either. Hell, you don't even need heals that often if you use grains. Also, why make a Warrior/Cleric if you're going to disregard what that build's the best at: tanking?

Robes might give you 20% more healing, but that's ALSO with cleric rod equipped. Almost all warriors do the switch to cleric, do a HO or HC, then switch back to a warrior weap; this disregards the advantages of your cleric passives if you're not staying in cleric. In my experience, LA is the overall best choice when Warrior's paired with Cleric.

[Fimero]

Last tier robe +5 set mag def (using 0%): 2,052.9
Last tier LA +5 set mag def (using 0%): 1,866.4
Total difference in mag def: 186.5
Level 96 favor armor passive: 253 mag def inc

This means that LA > robe versus all full str chars, and robe > LA against full int chars only if cleric rod is not on. Nobody bothers to do this, but it is actually possible to switch to cleric rod (or shield) right before a nuke is finished, then go back to a 2h or axe. If you get knocked down by any build, LA would be much better than robes whether you choose to use 1h passives against rogues/warriors or the cleric passives versus bladers/s/s nukers.

Regarding magical damage, mostly in pvp you come across spear nukers, s/s nukers, wizards, and warlocks. Wizards and warlocks should be easy to kill even with LA on. Warlocks may be trickier due to their double stuns, but just one daredevil which doesn't block should finish them off. Versus spear nukers and s/s nukers, you would probably be better off trying to interrupt their nukes instead of trying to tank them, because magical damage hits hard whether you're in robes or LA. Of course, you have the option of using bless/skins/grains, but that doesn't help the argument either way.

Robes will heal 20% more with instant cast skills, but these are not not really spammable (recovery has 5s cooldown, group recovery is ~15s, and heal cycle/recovery division don't heal more when you stop using cleric rod). However, the mp consumption is only 10% less. So while you're healing 20% more, you're tanking less (I don't know how to calculate this).

And going back to what you said above, some str glaivers do in fact wear prot sets. Phy damage can hit hard, even on Chinese chars with no pot delay.

Finally, one of the best things about the LA passives is the ridiculously stronger buffs that you can give to people. At level 100, you would give 43+15 str, 45+15 int, plus a bonus 59 phy and 92 mag def increase on top of body and soul deity.

this guy ftw

[Jadekiss]

Ok both you arguments sound quite convincing to me now
Thx you TWO

Mystery solved i would say