warrior/rogue vs rogue/warlock!! full sstr!
warrior/rogue vs rogue/warlock!! full sstr!
simple question: which one is better at pvp? give me your best knowledge pro war/rog and pro rog/lock out there... thanks!! this two builds seem even for 1v1 to me.
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Re: warrior/rogue vs rogue/warlock!! full sstr!
I'm going to say rogue/lock since it has sleep and what not.
But I'm just guessing
But I'm just guessing
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Re: warrior/rogue vs rogue/warlock!! full sstr!
I haven't ever seen the pros of Warrior/Rogue.
Since I like Warlock as main or subclass, I say Rogue/Warlock, and even Warrior/Warlock.
Since I like Warlock as main or subclass, I say Rogue/Warlock, and even Warrior/Warlock.
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Re: warrior/rogue vs rogue/warlock!! full sstr!
sinny wrote:simple question: which one is better at pvp? give me your best knowledge pro war/rog and pro rog/lock out there... thanks!! this two builds seem even for 1v1 to me.
I'd get a rogue/lock, a guildmate of mine had one and it totally dominates, unless you are versing someone w/ holyspell, then you are outta luck
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Re: warrior/rogue vs rogue/warlock!! full sstr!
Between those two builds exclusively, I'd go for Warrior/Rogue. All Rogue/Locks I've seen only rely on Trap+Sleep combo before DD+Prick to "dominate" their opponents, which is hard (more like impossible) to do to someone with Holy Spell on them (pretty much everyone in PvPs that matter). Unlike in the case of Warrior/Locks there's basically nothing to justify choosing Warlock sub over Cleric for Rogues. Well, nothing except your personal enjoyment...which ultimately matters most. But I digress.* I've played a Warrior/Rogue to 7x-ish and I'd say that the versatility of this build is worth the ridiculous amount of SP and gold for decent weapons. I'm a level 87 Warrior/Lock switching back to Warrior/Rogue and I'm confident that I'm not committing a huge mistake.
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Re: warrior/rogue vs rogue/warlock!! full sstr!
I'd go with Rogue / Warlock simply because rogue really doesn't need all the debuffs warlock supplies, but the interruptions (stun / sleep) is basically all it really needs...however, the debuffs are an added bonus....I have a rogue / lock (I'm a lil' bias cuz I just love warlock) and I'd never really had to rely on the trap + sleep bug or have to use DD (only use it w/ the kd + wounds combo)...normally only use the bug against people that run away too much.
Against people with holyspell, yea...you'll have somewhat of a problem, though hp / vigor grains can cut down it a lil' bit....disease, stun, panic, bleed still go through (death trap too, as I'm told)....get panic and bleed on then go to kd > dd > scud > mortal wounds, if they didn't die then, the next hit as they're getting up has a chance to finish them off.
Warrior / Rogue ...really needs the grains to live through PvP. Dull / Bleed increases the damage to a few moves...and they have the skins and vital, as well as 1hs. Work down the hp with DA 'n 2hs...go to kd > dd > scud > mortal wounds...next hit'll probably kill 'em, as well.
Though, if they were to go head-to-head, I'd give props to the rogue / lock (that knows what the hell they're doing) against a warrior / rogue...
lock against anyone that's not with a cleric sub already has a nice advantage...and those that use the pill bug (pre-lv10 statuses) really don't have much help from that, especially once they get the AoE stun / sleep alongside the small cooldowns of the debuffs / interruptions.
Eh, they both do good at PvP...all that's really needed is a know-how on the build's usage (including the pros and cons) and a decent set (gear). Just go with what you'd like more.
Rogue / Lock vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAf_0BNhR60
Warrior / Rogue vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHC4sUW8Ij4
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Against people with holyspell, yea...you'll have somewhat of a problem, though hp / vigor grains can cut down it a lil' bit....disease, stun, panic, bleed still go through (death trap too, as I'm told)....get panic and bleed on then go to kd > dd > scud > mortal wounds, if they didn't die then, the next hit as they're getting up has a chance to finish them off.
Warrior / Rogue ...really needs the grains to live through PvP. Dull / Bleed increases the damage to a few moves...and they have the skins and vital, as well as 1hs. Work down the hp with DA 'n 2hs...go to kd > dd > scud > mortal wounds...next hit'll probably kill 'em, as well.
Though, if they were to go head-to-head, I'd give props to the rogue / lock (that knows what the hell they're doing) against a warrior / rogue...
lock against anyone that's not with a cleric sub already has a nice advantage...and those that use the pill bug (pre-lv10 statuses) really don't have much help from that, especially once they get the AoE stun / sleep alongside the small cooldowns of the debuffs / interruptions.
Eh, they both do good at PvP...all that's really needed is a know-how on the build's usage (including the pros and cons) and a decent set (gear). Just go with what you'd like more.
Rogue / Lock vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAf_0BNhR60
Warrior / Rogue vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHC4sUW8Ij4
UnbeatableDevil wrote:I'd get a rogue/lock, a guildmate of mine had one and it totally dominates, unless you are versing someone w/ holyspell, then you are outta luck. Warrior/lock is a good build too ;]
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Re: warrior/rogue vs rogue/warlock!! full sstr!
Since 100 cap update, Panic doesn't go through Holy Spell anymore.
Stun doesn't seem to work as much as it used to as well.
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Re: warrior/rogue vs rogue/warlock!! full sstr!
Ningyotsukai-san wrote:UnbeatableDevil wrote:I'd get a rogue/lock, a guildmate of mine had one and it totally dominates, unless you are versing someone w/ holyspell, then you are outta luck. Warrior/lock is a good build too ;]
You're still a nab, TJ ;P
I was talking about someone else
Nah was talking about you
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