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Why aren't people taking Bicheon to 30 for the br increase from the passive? Paired with a shield with a good blocking ratio Daredevil and Knockdown would hit less thus increasing a person's survivability. Yeah snowshield reduces damage but a block stops it.

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It's only 4% though, but do as you wish. And blocking depends on luck where snow shield does not.
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You get hit 100 times. For 100 damage each, makes math mad easy.
Br 18 shield+4 passive=7800 damage done to you.

Snow Shield (lv20, again to make math easy =D) 20%.
Total damage=8000

Yes, snow shield is timed, but you can still attack (for the most part) when you use it. Unlike shield if your not s/s, and if you are s/s it should be 90.

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Shadowfox542 wrote:You get hit 100 times. For 100 damage each, makes math mad easy.
Br 18 shield+4 passive=8800 damage done to you.

Snow Shield (lv20, again to make math easy =D) 20%.
Total damage=8000

Yes, snow shield is timed, but you can still attack (for the most part) when you use it. Unlike shield if your not s/s, and if you are s/s it should be 90.



10000 - 2200 = 7800

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wolfster wrote:
Shadowfox542 wrote:You get hit 100 times. For 100 damage each, makes math mad easy.
Br 18 shield+4 passive=8800 damage done to you.

Snow Shield (lv20, again to make math easy =D) 20%.
Total damage=8000

Yes, snow shield is timed, but you can still attack (for the most part) when you use it. Unlike shield if your not s/s, and if you are s/s it should be 90.



10000 - 2200 = 7800


lol @ math

OT: block > absorb; but the thing is block doesnt always work while snowshield will always reduce the damage. also that br 18+4 passive example, its like saying you will block a daredevil 22 times out of 100 if the warrior were to hit you 100 times. that is pretty bad rate lol. fortunately it doesnt work that way. its a 22% chance to block. so it could block the 1st hit or never block any of the next 100 hit. May be you have noticed sometimes a block 10 shield would block more than a block 14 or 15 shield.
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well i'd much rather get a low snow shield than 4% block passive. If u get get snow shield, u still get to use a shield (no passive) , getting passive means u lose snow shield.
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I believe at level 30 you have the first knockdown. Glaviers can equip themselves with a balde or sword and knockdown a warrior or use the Iron Shield. Which will probably increase your phy def by like 50 phy def + whatever your shield def is.

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OTG wrote:I believe at level 30 you have the first knockdown. Glaviers can equip themselves with a balde or sword and knockdown a warrior or use the Iron Shield. Which will probably increase your phy def by like 50 phy def + whatever your shield def is.

Maybe the iron shield idea would work, but I believe that KD ratio had a correlation to the KD level, so to say the lvl 30 KD would have a 50% chance to knockdown a lvl 30 enemy, and a very low chance of knocking down a 8d-9d opponent.
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OTG wrote:I believe at level 30 you have the first knockdown. Glaviers can equip themselves with a balde or sword and knockdown a warrior or use the Iron Shield. Which will probably increase your phy def by like 50 phy def + whatever your shield def is.


having that only lasts 15 seconds.
while snowshield lasts almost what 1-2 mins ? i rather have the snowshield then and using firewall.
i have yet to meet a warrior that can kill me or can kill me easly

the KD would be a decent ideea but sometimes you won't get and KD's you can't really count on them. like you can't count on the Stuns or Blocks either when you switch to shield.
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A lv30 KD would work with next to nothing efficiency, simply because it is level-based. The lv30 iron shield would be equally worthless.
OT: I would rather absorb 23% of all damage, than block 14% of all hits (100% block ratio blue on the enemy's weapon gives you br10+bicheon passive).
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Haha, math fail.

Also, super low level KD wouldn't work.

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Please tell me, where did I math fail?
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