Here's my uber full int. spear char skill layout. Need HELP!

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Here's my uber full int. spear char skill layout. Need HELP!

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Questions in bold. Any comments on the rest of the skill build?

Full Int Fire/Lighting Spear Skill Layout
Armor: Garment lvl 1-50, Protector/Armor lvl 50-xx

Spear:
1. Blade Series – Only first book lvl 1.
2. Bloody Series - None
3. Heuksal AOE Series - None
4. Soul Spear – Only first book lvl 1. Should I go more?
5. Ghost Spear – Only first book lvl 1. Should I go more?
6. Chain Attacks – Maybe only lvl1 in first book? or save SP?
7. Flying Dragon – None.
8. Passive - Max

Fire:
1. Imbue- Max all 4 books.
2. Fire Shield – How much should I put in here? Which books?
3. Flame Body – None.
4. Fire Protection - How much should I put in here? Which books?
5. Fire Wall – None.
6. Flame Wave – Max all 3 books or just book 1 and 3?
7. Passive – None.

Light:
1. Imbue – None.
2. Pierce Force – Max all 4 books.
3. Wind Walk – Max all 3 books.
4. Lion Shout – Should I max only the 3rd book?
5. Concentration – Only max 3rd book.
6. Thunderbolt - Max all 2 books.
7. Passive – Max.

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Re: Here's my uber full int. spear char skill layout. Need H

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Ok im a lvl 32 pure int sword shield so i cant tell ya about the spear skills but the rest i cant DONT Take garnement till lvl 50
take armor and then behond that take what ever you like :)



Fire:
1. Imbue- Max all 4 books.
2. Fire Shield – I have the second book at lv 1 now and i notice alot diference so yea lvl it
3. Flame Body – None.
4. Fire Protection - id say max al books cuz the last one look cool ^^and mag def is important
5. Fire Wall – None.
6. Flame Wave – dont max al 3 books only get first book and up it until you can get the second book same goes for the third book
7. Passive – None.

Light:
1. Imbue – None.
2. Pierce Force – Max all 4 books.
3. Wind Walk – Max all 3 books.
4. Lion Shout – max al books its a great finisher liek me i do nuke BOOM lion shout and their dead !! so id say max it
5. Concentration – Only max 3rd book.
6. Thunderbolt - Max all 2 books.
7. Passive – Max.[/quote]
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Bryan, why not garments? I won't be doing any PvP or anything early level, I like the speed boost and willing to spend few more HP potions. :)

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Spear moves: Leave one to save XP until you get a new book, then get lvl 1in that book for the added %age.
FS: Max
FP: Max
FW: Depends. Book 2 is THE PvE skill. Book 1 is your PvP skill. Book 3 does less dmg but hits more targets if they're close together.
LS: Depends if you want it. Since you don't have another ranged skill, youmight as well max it.

I wouldn't take garment since as a pure spear, you're going to have difficulty at higher levels. Even wearing protector, when I originally started on mujigis, a giant could one hit me if he crit the overhand attack. Since you'll want to be levelling on thigns that you can one or two hit, you don't want to risk that they can kill you. Go protector if you want, but know if you plan on PvPing or trading, pure strs will likely own you.
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Devotia wrote:Spear moves: Leave one to save XP until you get a new book, then get lvl 1in that book for the added %age.


Could you elaborate that?

Devotia wrote:LS: Depends if you want it. Since you don't have another ranged skill, youmight as well max it.


I thought LS was a close range, almost like a melee skill? No?
And how is LS's damage compared to Flame Wave series and Thunbolt series?

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basically he said to only get level one until you can get the next book. So you get lvl one of of first book, then wait until you are able to get 2nd book. Lvl the first book and get lvl one 2nd book.
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Irukandji wrote:basically he said to only get level one until you can get the next book. So you get lvl one of of first book, then wait until you are able to get 2nd book. Lvl the first book and get lvl one 2nd book.


Should I even bother with second books with Spear? I thought by lvl30 you can just use ur thunder and fire nukes.

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BryaN stop talking about fire nukes plz , your ganna ruin ppl's builds with that advice
2nd book fire is teh uber nuke , it dus more damage than book 3 , book 3 is a aoe attack , aoe attacks hit more things ,but for less damage

just becouse a skill is higher in line dusnt mean it actualy dus more damage , dont stop maxing book 2 EVER!!!!
and well forget about book 1 fire nuke , 1 point is all you need to get to book2 , and thants more than enuf to get to lvl 43 and get book2 witch is teh uber nuke !! than if you got sp left over , max book 3

the stats for you non believers :

Flame wave-Arrow Type A
Description Launches a firebolt in target's direction, dealing major INT-based damage.
Skill LV 1 Magical attack power 123~205(250%)
Req Skill None
S_LV M_LV MP Effect SP
1 30 348 123~205 (250%) 144
2 32 382 135~225(250%) 172
3 34 418 148~246(250%) 199
4 36 456 161~269 (250%) 226
5 38 496 176~293 (250%) 253
6 40 539 191~318 (250%) 280
7 42 585 207~345 (250%) 318
8 44 633 224~373 (250%) 355
9 46 685 242~404 (250%) 393
10 48 739 262~436 (250%) 431
11 50 797 282~470 (250%) 468
12 52 858 304~506 (250%) 520
13 54 923 327~544 (250%) 571
14 56 992 351~585 (250%) 623
15 58 1065 377~628 (250%) 675
16 60 1142 404~673 (250%) 726
17 62 1224 433~722 (250%) 813
18 64 1310 464~773 (250%) 1079
Total SP 8246



Flame wave-Burning Type A
Description Launches a firebolt in target's direction, dealing major INT-based damage to the target and reduced splash damage to enemies in a straight line.
Skill LV 1 Magical attack power 215~359(300%)
Penetration range (Penetration :3,Damage -35%)
Req Skill Flame wave-Arrow LV1
S_LV M_LV MP Effect/Range SP
1 43 820 215~359 (300%) 3/-35% 336
2 45 887 233~388 (300%) 3/-35% 374
3 47 959 252~420 (300%) 3/-35% 412
4 49 1034 272~453 (300%) 3/-35% 449
5 51 1115 293~488 (300%) 3/-35% 494
6 53 1200 315~525 (300%) 3/-35% 546
7 55 1290 339~564 (300%) 3/-35% 597
8 57 1385 364~606 (300%) 3/-35% 649
9 59 1486 390~650 (300%) 3/-35% 700
10 61 1593 418~697 (300%) 3/-35% 770
11 63 1706 448~747 (300%) 3/-35% 856
12 65 1826 479~799 (300%) 3/-35% 1358
13 67 1952 513~854 (300%) 3/-35% 1482
14 69 2066 548~913 (300%) 3/-35% 1607
Total SP 4953




Flame wave-Wide Type A
Description Drops a burning meteor on the enemys head, dealing major INT-based damage to the target and reduced splash damage to surrounding enemies. Has a chance to cause burns.
Skill LV 1 Magical attack power 281~468(300%)
Front range Radius 6m (Simultaneous attack:5)
Burn Probability 25% (effect 132,lv56)
Req Skill Flame wave-Burning LV1
S_LV M_LV MP Effect Burn Effect SP
1 56 1501 281~468 (300%) 132 623
2 58 1612 301~502 (300%) 136 675
3 60 1728 323~539 (300%) 140 726
4 62 1852 346~577 (300%) 144 813
5 64 1983 371~618 (300%) 148 1079
6 66 2121 397~661 (300%) 152 1420
7 68 2267 424~707 (300%) 156 1545
Total SP 6881
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IronAddict wrote:
Irukandji wrote:basically he said to only get level one until you can get the next book. So you get lvl one of of first book, then wait until you are able to get 2nd book. Lvl the first book and get lvl one 2nd book.


Should I even bother with second books with Spear? I thought by lvl30 you can just use ur thunder and fire nukes.


Could someone answer this ^^^ :?

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Spear Skills = good for PvP, not as good for PvE, except Ghost Spear which pwns.

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I wouldn't bother with soul spear or chain, because they take too much time to implement. Your most damaging skill is the nuke, and the only reason you use other skills is due to its charging time. Following this logic, you want quick secondary attacking skills. I would either pick lion shout or ghost spear to max but not both.

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NoLimits wrote:I wouldn't bother with soul spear or chain, because they take too much time to implement. Your most damaging skill is the nuke, and the only reason you use other skills is due to its charging time. Following this logic, you want quick secondary attacking skills. I would either pick lion shout or ghost spear to max but not both.

3rd book Soul Spear is faster than a nuke, and still does a lot of damage. It stuns, which REALLY helps a nuker out in PvP.

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ShizKnight wrote:3rd book Soul Spear is faster than a nuke, and still does a lot of damage. It stuns, which REALLY helps a nuker out in PvP.

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k, so screw ghost spear and max up 3rd book of soul spear. How about Lion Shout? A must or only if i have extra sp?

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Even if it does a lot of damage, I don't see it doing more than a nuke, especially for one who is full int. If you wanted to max soul spear, I'd say to go for a pure str build to get that nice critical damage.

EDIT: I forgot to mention that yes, it is faster than a nuke, but not by much... and the stun effect is a relative small percentage.
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And thats coming from a rich, fully farmed, level 70 nuker on Troy.

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NoLimits wrote:Even if it does a lot of damage, I don't see it doing more than a nuke, especially for one who is full int. If you wanted to max soul spear, I'd say to go for a pure str build to get that nice critical damage.


so ghost spear or lion shout, since im full int, woulnd't i benefit more from maxing lion shout?
also, i get to save sp on spear mastery, since im putting light mastery high already for other skills..

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I would like to say lion shout for the reasoning you just stated, but since I'm not in the position of having maxed both, I can't say for sure which one is better.

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Just get level 1 Ghost Spear, I suppose. And don't max 3rd book Soul Spear. Just get it to 3rd book, then leave it at 1. Lion Shout is optional. Flying Dragon is stronger.

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ShizKnight wrote:Lion Shout is optional. Flying Dragon is stronger.

The main reason why I suggest lion shout is that it has a very fast cast time as well as a quick recharge rate. Flying Dragon is much slower in both, approximately around the time of the 1st book of fire nuke.

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Ya, but Flying Dragon is the strongs.

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So, which one's best for PvE? Lion Shout, Ghost Spear or Flying Dragon? and PvP?

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IronAddict wrote:So, which one's best for PvE? Lion Shout, Ghost Spear or Flying Dragon? and PvP?


max all 3 books of lion shout.

ghost spear is good. most of the time when i grind i just nuke + spin. its fast and easy.

i nvr got flying dragon and nvr needed it.

just nuke + shout + spin and u should be good.

EDIT: for pvp i recommend going s/s. ur a pure int, u cant take on a str. all u should do is nuke nuke nuke. but then again, play ur style and what ur comfortable with.
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Spear is also a viable choice though. If you have enough hp added in your 60s, and you have high Heuksal, you can be a devastating 1v1.

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isent ( nuke + nuke +lion ) the way to go or just ( nuke + nuke ) why use spear skills when you are a pure int anyway? whont you do the highest damage whith the nukes.
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