Rogue/Bard or Rogue/Cleric

[Nellek]

I can't decide at all.....Some of my guild mates told me i wont have enough MP to be cleric sub. So i guess i wanna ask, which sub is better Bard for speed or Cleric for healing.

[JKMB]

If a warrior can sub cleric, a rogue sure as hell can, rogues take less mp per skill then warriors anyway, problem is that rogue weps dont really work well with cleric weps, swapping from xbow has a 50% hp punishment for example, and a warrior can easily swap from 1h-cleric rod, i'm always in favour of bard, but that is just my opinion.
You should add a poll to this btw.

[Nellek]

Yes yes bard does seem the way to go. But still thinking, added poll like you said.

[salmissra]

depends on you,

if you care mainly about the sp cost, lvling speed..go with bard

if you want to be a stronger pvper...go with cleric

i chose cleric btw mainly because i love pvping and bless spell + recovery division and healing cycle is awesome.

another thing you have to consider is that in 8 man parties (if you pt a lot), a rogue/cleric is useless..maybe luring but no. in 8 man pties, a rogue/bard tends to be better as a bard.

you could try both builds ..lvl them up to lvl 30ish and decide

[Nitro]

Cleric ... I cannot imagine anything without Healing Cycle, Recovery Division and Holy Spell.

[Nellek]

I see, How much better is cleric at pvp? Is it like a huge difference from having bard in pvp?

[Shadowfox542]

I see, How much better is cleric at pvp? Is it like a huge difference from having bard in pvp?

Yes. Insanely huge.

If something that will kill me comes along, I switch to shield and cleric rod. Buff myself with phy/mag buffs, and use healing cycle/orbit. I can easily easily tank a sun glaiver....I almost never use bless because I almost never need it.

Rogue Cleric is way way way better for PvP.
Rogue Bard is good for PvE, Noise/speed help, though if your good you should be able to kill them before they reach you anyway, as well as not have to move much due to range.

[BloodyBlade]

Rogue/cleric is a godly build.

[Tasdik]

Yeah don't go rogue/bard it sucks a higher lvls. Sure you can kill one guy with daggers prick but then your screwed if another char starts attacking you. I have a lvl 50 rogue/bard FF for 50 dagger and xbow skills but it's not all that great tbh.

[Nellek]

Hmm this is sure maken me think alot lol, anyone other there that thinks bard would be better?

[zigurat]

I pvp a rogue/cleric and a rogue/bard. I struggled against the the rogue/cleric because of bless and recovery division, but the rogue/bard was easier to defeat. I vote cleric as best choice for rogue.

[saphirre12]

Bard is quite useless in PvP . They can only do Speed + Noise ( useless lol ) . However, they are very very very useful in PvE . Use CrossbowExtreme + Noise , you one-hit kill any General at your level with good weapon => Faster lvl up

Cleric is good in PvP . You can heal yourself and use Bless / Recovery Division