[GUIDE]: Hybird 1:1 Glavier (may be spear) UPDATED (cap 90)

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After reading the topic , what's the chance of this build to succes ?

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elnawawi what lvl is your character now? i would like to see a video of this character in pvp at lvl 40-50 thx
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Hope that you enjoy this votainer ..

Disconn3cted ,
my character now is lvl 33 ( don't blame me on my slow lvling :P )

I wish i have good time with no lag and no much degree 7 & 8 botters at ongs near samrkand to record good vedio .. but you will be impressed when you saw how this character perform with lvl 32 skills ..
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added to the chars n skills big sticky under chapter Glaive Guides.

maybe not the STRONGEST build in game, but at least a guide that is well
researched and is provided with useful information.

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cin wrote:added to the chars n skills big sticky under chapter Glaive Guides.

maybe not the STRONGEST build in game, but at least a guide that is well
researched and is provided with useful information.


Thx cin , That's nice ..
hope that will be useful for members in SRF
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Why be glavie why not spear? A 70:70 Spear imo is very good, way better than 70:70 bow. Spear/Glavie has HP increase, knock back and stun starting at low levels. Spear would make your attacks more powerful, since 70:70 is an INT based build, spear has the highest magical attk, hp increase, you would own lol :P
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Screw grinding vids, i want pvp vids :O
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darkmaster21 wrote:Why be glavie why not spear? A 70:70 Spear imo is very good, way better than 70:70 bow. Spear/Glavie has HP increase, knock back and stun starting at low levels. Spear would make your attacks more powerful, since 70:70 is an INT based build, spear has the highest magical attk, hp increase, you would own lol :P


I wrote a full section about this matter and I mentioned almost everything .. read guide first :wink:

[quote=erminal]Screw grinding vids, i want pvp vids :O[/quote]
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So how do you add your str and int points? 2 str 1 int?

Well I think I already heard about this build as being the str glavie nuker...

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Feataler wrote:So how do you add your str and int points? 2 str 1 int?

Well I think I already heard about this build as being the str glavie nuker...

Are you kidding? Have you read the topic? He said 1:1 ratio, not 2:1 str:int :banghead:
Str glaive nuker? I never heard of it. I doubt that an hybrid str 2:1 build even using spear would do much damage nuking...
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First off, elnawawi, great job! It's a game, being creative is the best part ^^

There's one and a half questions that I'm not sure of, here's the basis.

Heuksal obviously must be maxed at each cap (lol...), but the force is what's giving me a mental block. Lightning is essential for speed and parry, highly useful for every build. Cold, for this build, is what allows it to tank like pure strength and add a small amount of physical defense. Fire helps boost the magical defense, can help reduce statuses if you wish to include it, and increases physical damage greatly. Oh, it's also very useful for pvp, jobbing, wars since it offers the only way chinese can detect euros without pills. Then there's force. It was just recently that I found videos of hybrid str bladers who've been able to win against 90% of all pvps (what's the fun in not being able to die, right? =D) because of vital spots.

1. Should force mastery be included? It can help with increasing damage with vital spots statuses, however to be able to have good force, the mastery must be maxed. That decreases the ability to use the benefits of other force trees...

2. More complex is in the future caps or even now, what tree gets cut out? Cold is essential for tanking, lightning for mobility and parry. Fire, since it only offers status reduce and physical damage increase? But glaive is a physical weapon primarily, and so benefits from flame body... Force, most likely, since its benefits come at the steepest cost of mastery?

Just further exploration questions, off to bed. Thanks for the inspiration, again. It's different, but welcome =D

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Well, the problem of force is that you have to keep it on your Level. Otherwise the De-buffs don't work
To say since, the being is not or the non-being is, is wrong to say against it, the being is and the non-being is not, is right.

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eladias373 wrote:First off, elnawawi, great job! It's a game, being creative is the best part ^^

There's one and a half questions that I'm not sure of, here's the basis.

Heuksal obviously must be maxed at each cap (lol...), but the force is what's giving me a mental block. Lightning is essential for speed and parry, highly useful for every build. Cold, for this build, is what allows it to tank like pure strength and add a small amount of physical defense. Fire helps boost the magical defense, can help reduce statuses if you wish to include it, and increases physical damage greatly. Oh, it's also very useful for pvp, jobbing, wars since it offers the only way chinese can detect euros without pills. Then there's force. It was just recently that I found videos of hybrid str bladers who've been able to win against 90% of all pvps (what's the fun in not being able to die, right? =D) because of vital spots.

1. Should force mastery be included? It can help with increasing damage with vital spots statuses, however to be able to have good force, the mastery must be maxed. That decreases the ability to use the benefits of other force trees...

2. More complex is in the future caps or even now, what tree gets cut out? Cold is essential for tanking, lightning for mobility and parry. Fire, since it only offers status reduce and physical damage increase? But glaive is a physical weapon primarily, and so benefits from flame body... Force, most likely, since its benefits come at the steepest cost of mastery?

Just further exploration questions, off to bed. Thanks for the inspiration, again. It's different, but welcome =D



I would say out of fire, light, ice, Ice is the least necessary. A 1:1 character can only run 35% snow shield which is relatively low lvl. So i would leave ice around 30-40 depending on exactly how much snowshield you can run.

While I can't stand running slow, there are plenty of euro characters that don't have it and survive. So max lightning could be considered optional.

Fire offers a bit of magic defense and damage increase, you can also see invisible people and stuff. But you could get away without it, most nukers are planning on dropping fire for 90 cap.

I would probably do something like 90 weapon, 90 light, 80-90 fire, 30-40 ice.
But well you can do what ever you want really, I don't think you are limited that much. I don't recommend going force unless you wan't to ress people, the damage lost from dropping fire or light will be pretty big. I don't know how well force debuffs work but they would have to make up for about 7% of your damage output lost by dropping either fire or light.

Oh and remember you only need 30 fire to be status immune.
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Post by eladias373 »

Thanks for your expertise glavie ^^

And yes, Dancin, force is limiting because it must be at the same level. There's probably ways of including it in this build if someone wants to do a variation =]

So, 90 heuksal is required, 90 lightning as the main force, and recommended minimums of 30 fire and ice. That would leave 60 masteries to mess around with. Obviously, suit the your masteries to your taste =D This is going to be interesting to see at 90 cap!

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I love that this guide still alive, that's good build to go but sad that no one can accept chinese characetrs at parties so it's hard for me to do it at Venus

Anyway i'm with Glavie opinion at last discussion but u might raise up ur cold to 50 and leave fire at 70 , It's ur personal style ,
But consider that the most important thing is to not to bot with this build , I hate botters and don't wanna my build to go bot , and I love to own botters and it's very easy specially botters with this build , just lure much party mobs when snow shield down and let the botter AOE them then die , u just need good timing :twisted:
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Post by eladias373 »

so cool... =D

i'll be practicing... hehe

personally, i'm going to try raising the fire mastery high for the buffs, cold at lvl 30 should be enough snow shield to sustain attacks if the hybrid is a little bit str heavy...

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WOW great job :D i luv this build currently making one
i think this build can own all chinese in pvp
but euro...
elnawawi wrote:If he crit on you with 23 (if you wear garment too and as you have less phy def) but you have 30% snow shield will take 6.9 k from damge this will make him crit 16.1 k on you that will prevent you die in 1 hit ..

what do u do if this happens? u have basically no hp left and they will kill u next hit
dam euros so annoying in pvp :banghead: ...but i think chinese more fun so i have chinese
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SkyCleaver wrote:WOW great job :D i luv this build currently making one
i think this build can own all chinese in pvp
but euro...
elnawawi wrote:If he crit on you with 23 (if you wear garment too and as you have less phy def) but you have 30% snow shield will take 6.9 k from damge this will make him crit 16.1 k on you that will prevent you die in 1 hit ..

what do u do if this happens? u have basically no hp left and they will kill u next hit
dam euros so annoying in pvp :banghead: ...but i think chinese more fun so i have chinese



Wow welcome to the board. Lets say you have 1hp left. Your next skill stuns them, or kills them. You just 1 because you didn't die, make sense?

Fighting euro is a different animal.
Chinese vs Chinese, it comes down to (most important to least important): char lvl, skill lvl, Gear, Gear, gear, lag, button smashing skill, and luck.
Euro: Who gets first hit, luck, player lvl, skill lvl, lag, player skill, gear.

I just made that up of course, and its not accurate, but its the concept I am trying to get across. The most important difference is the gear part lol.
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i tink
90 lighting
90 heuskal
60fire
60cold u can hold 40% mp absorp if u got prety good gearµ
btw i tink this need to be in the Guides Tutorials section
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Hey, so how's it going with this build!??! any news? you still working on it? well i've started it today gonna check it out a bit i like it so far im lvl 10 lol :P

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well, I'm back to SRF, I had my IP banned within a ranged IP banned by wrong so i ahd no acces here for long time.

I think this guide should be alive again , I have few updates to do on it ..

Also uploaded an old pvp vedio of the build :
http://www.wegame.com/watch/SRO_Hybrid_1_1_Glavier_lvl_33_PVP/

watch and enjoy
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I don't think that will work...

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Post by justaskphil »

Very interesting build! It would be nice to see how it performs against the other pure based chinese builds. Euros would be a different story. My guess is that it would provide a good balance against the chinese builds, and would be a unique way to play the normally run of the mill glavier. Would like to see spear vs. glaive for main weapon though. Better overall damage. 8)
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get ur build to 90, wait for baro to get his there, and see who's the best :wink:

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I'm interested too if this build will succeed.

Aww Now I want to play SRO again bad Elnawawi <_<
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