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bard/cleric or cleric/bard?

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Hi, I have a few questions about.. well, what the topic says :roll:

1> Is there a difference between bard/cleric and cleric/bard?
1> If I am a cleric/bard / bard/cleric, and wear a robe, should I not get the charity skills?
3> What skills should I get when b/c or c/b if it makes any difference?
4> Can I cast bard and cleric buffs at the same time, or will either of them dissappear all the time?

This is for solo/party pvp/pve, but mainly party pvp/pve.

I would be very happy if you answer/discuss these questions :)

Thank you in advance!
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1> no
2> yes get it
3> a lot.. look at Guadia's bard guide in the guide section and mmm.. someones cleric guild, I'm sure there is one
4> some.. you can't use str int while barding, and you can't dance while playing as cleric.

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Mousetrap wrote:1> no
2> yes get it
3> a lot.. look at Guadia's bard guide in the guide section and mmm.. someones cleric guild, I'm sure there is one
4> some.. you can't use str int while barding, and you can't dance while playing as cleric.


Thanks for your answer :)

2> Isn't it impossible to cast those spells while wearing a robe?
3> Those are guides for Cleric or Bard, not for Cleric/Bard, so they won't tell me if I should have dmg spells from both classes. Do I need both (why)? Or is that a waste of SP?
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Infin1ty wrote:2> Isn't it impossible to cast those spells while wearing a robe?
3> Those are guides for Cleric or Bard, not for Cleric/Bard, so they won't tell me if I should have dmg spells from both classes. Do I need both (why)? Or is that a waste of SP?

2)First, charity is a passive skill, can't cast it. The reason you need charity is because its required for the bottom row of buffs, like holy word and str+int buff.
3)Its up to you whether or not to get both attacking skills. If you've got time to farm, I suggest you do. If you don't, I'd just get one of the two, whichever class (cleric or bard) you use more.
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grab everything that a pure bard and a pure cleric would grab if u can farm a lot
except you might not need trial/justice cross :roll:

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nvr made 1 just my imo->

1>Get bard nukes for dps.
2>Get offering skills fr heavy dmg.
3>Get buffs from both and use as party needs.
4>Get heal spells frm cleric guide in guides section.

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Hey thanks for the help you 3!

I have made up my mind about which skills I would take, but the only problem now is: ..(you've guessed it) SP!! :D

I know that Euro ppl can farm at lvl 17 with wizard skills at 8 to 1 hit monsters of ur lvl, but...

Since I'm bard/cleric anyway, shouldn't I go a few lvls higher and get the basic skills of that class (healing, moving march, etc), and farm or get powerfarmed somewhere else?

Thanks again :)

Edit: Oh yeah, how much would it cost to get powerfarmed in Venus?
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I see the topic views going up, but no new replies :(

I'm still looking for answers on those questions and I have listed which skills I will have:

Would I suck with a build like this, or not at all?

Bard: All skills with the exception of:
-Battle Chord > Mana Switch
-Melody > everything but Patter Clamor
-Sound > Mana Wind, Discord Wave, Mana Breeze

Cleric:
-Cardinal Praise > Reverse, Innocent, Grand Reverse, Integrity
-Mental Culture > Faith
Recovery > Healing Cycle, Healing Orbit
Blessed Recovery > everything

I won't have spells as holy word and other buffs / group reverse / offering / over healing.
But then again, I will only have Cleric as sub for some buffs and for healing/ressurecting, not for all the buffs, besides it will save me a lot of SP and I won't need to worry about a good cleric rod or shield.

I actually think this is a fine build, but I'd like that comfirmed :) It's not much of a solo or pvp build, but that doesn't mean I wouldn't like to pvp :D

I'll need to farm only 750k SP for this btw.
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Recommend you reconsider skipping some of those skills, if you don't mind using some extra sp it will be worth it. Especially overhealing and holy word, which are very useful at pvp.

As for cleric/bard or bard/cleric, I'd recommend going bard for main. Bard is better at soloing with fast attacks and noise.
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DrCrusher wrote:Recommend you reconsider skipping some of those skills, if you don't mind using some extra sp it will be worth it. Especially overhealing and holy word, which are very useful at pvp.

As for cleric/bard or bard/cleric, I'd recommend going bard for main. Bard is better at soloing with fast attacks and noise.


I've read overhealing is not THAT good and I'll already have "Absoluteness Damage" skills from Bard. I've also read Holy Word is great but I'll need Charity for that too. Besides, I'll already have Innocent/Integrity to help me against bad status...

And yes, I'll make Bard my main, so I won't need a good cleric rod and shield.

Thanks for your reply :D
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bard/cleric HANDS DOWN
u can use RD (recov division) and a tambour at the same time that way.
and as for sp remember that ull ALWAYS be needed in a party so u can get pfarm and party sp farm.

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Plovers wrote:bard/cleric HANDS DOWN
u can use RD (recov division) and a tambour at the same time that way.
and as for sp remember that ull ALWAYS be needed in a party so u can get pfarm and party sp farm.

good luckk



Hey thanks!

So you are suggesting that I should level up to like .. 20.. and join some party at ongs? or whereever :shock: if that's so, I guess farming will be a lot easier :P

Thanks again and everyone, there are still questions unanswered :D
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Infin1ty wrote:
Plovers wrote:bard/cleric HANDS DOWN
u can use RD (recov division) and a tambour at the same time that way.
and as for sp remember that ull ALWAYS be needed in a party so u can get pfarm and party sp farm.

good luckk



Hey thanks!

So you are suggesting that I should level up to like .. 20.. and join some party at ongs? or whereever :shock: if that's so, I guess farming will be a lot easier :P

Thanks again and everyone, there are still questions unanswered :D


seeing as ur in venus i don't think u can...

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thechampion80 wrote:seeing as ur in venus i don't think u can...


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I think he means that since Venus is the only server thats not bot-infested, there won't be much powerleveling/powerfarming going around.
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Infectious wrote:I think he means that since Venus is the only server thats not bot-infested, there won't be much powerleveling/powerfarming going around.


It isn't? Cool I picked the right server 8)
Well I'm in a party right now and it was easy to find, so I guess there's just about enough powerleveling going around :wink:
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Yeah, Venus is the server filled with the most legits.
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Infin1ty wrote:
Infectious wrote:I think he means that since Venus is the only server thats not bot-infested, there won't be much powerleveling/powerfarming going around.


It isn't? Cool I picked the right server 8)
Well I'm in a party right now and it was easy to find, so I guess there's just about enough powerleveling going around :wink:


cuz venus is sooo anti-bot more legits are plvling and pfarming
instead of stupid bots dominating it so ur actually moree likely to get pfarm here in venus
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