Regarding Faith skill on Rogue / Clerics

[Mid_EastKING]

hey

so i noticed everyone wearing light armor when they are rogue cleric. obviously its a good idea because of the phy / mag buffs , but i always hated the game for all the people who followed the same ideas... thats why everyones a full str glaive haha . i noticed the faith skill provides a 20% hp healing increase when using a healing skill, so my question is does this affect apply to skills such as recovery division or healing cycle??? if so , then i might consider switching to robes for my rogue becuase i will be able to heal 3000 hp at lvl 90 with recovery division ( instead of 2.4k ) and its a change to the usual light armor rogues seen everywhere

thanks

[Mefra]

hey

so i noticed everyone wearing light armor when they are rogue cleric. obviously its a good idea because of the phy / mag buffs , but i always hated the game for all the people who followed the same ideas... thats why everyones a full str glaive haha . i noticed the faith skill provides a 20% hp healing increase when using a healing skill, so my question is does this affect apply to skills such as recovery division or healing cycle??? if so , then i might consider switching to robes for my rogue becuase i will be able to heal 3000 hp at lvl 90 with recovery division ( instead of 2.4k ) and its a change to the usual light armor rogues seen everywhere

thanks

I'm sorry to let your dream fall to pieces, but you're not the only one who would be using robes . I already switched around lvl 20.

About your question, I'm curious myself. I use robes for another reason, but this would be great if it worked.

[LockStar.]

It is definitely not worth it in my eyes.

A Pure STR Cleric with Light Armor, Charity and Absolute damage is extremely useful in job/cape wars and even in PvP against certain builds. My warrior is the ultimate wizard buster, nomatter how I play it, as long as I keep my guard up, there ain't no wizards killing it. You get the Bless, Skins, Vital Increase and when all of that run out or I just feel like staying cleric, I just take the rod and shield out, buff myself. When I see him come out of invisibility I just cast Healing Cycle (over Orbit because its a quicker cast with not much difference in healing) on me, quickly select him and 1 shot him with Overhealing/Glut healing (Forgot which one was the faster cast)

Another situation - If you are at a typical Job war at the gate or even out on the road, if your party stays together you will be alot more useful to the party as a Pure STR cleric. Giving out all the sweet buffs , casting Orbit constantly, using Absolute damage against the pesky wizards with screens and thousands of bless layers. To add to that, it would take quite a few to take you down if you are acting cleric and know how to keep your distance.

[-.-]

hm it wont work... you need rod out for passive lol

[Mid_EastKING]

yea you make a good point on the usefulness of light armor str cleric builds. its true that u can get a good amount of phy/mag defense by passive and non passive skills. however, you can still wear robes and get some amount of phy / mag defense ( non passive skills + shield ). also note that whether its robe or light armor , both cases you need to change to cleric rod so you cant make that argument . however , with robes , i suggest combining both the non passive phy/mag defense skills with the extra 20% healing power. in this case ,your benefiting with not only healing skills improving , but healing cycle and recovery division. i find it really annoying when i'm wearing light armor and spamming the healing skills because i don't heal enough , and i think that the 20% healing boost can make up and surpass the passive phy/mag defense buff, because all your skills involving healing are improved. and theres also the mp % increase and speed increase to 20% ,which is always decent. i found that when using robes i would need to click on the healing skill once and i was would be at top health. but with light armor , SPAM THAT HEALING SKILL OR DEATH IS NEAR!!!

another point isits different how many rogues do u see wearing robes???? its because people don't look into these skills in depth , they just get introduced to one idea and follow that idea.

let me know what you think, i didnt come to this forum just to hear myself type lol

[CLOT]

never see a rogue in robe, thats true
but it also depends on no. of str/nuker ratio on ur server

in mercury, there are LOADS of str, esp. glaivers/bow/warriors
so most rogues wear heavy armour here, or maybe LA

so it depends whether ur server has more int or more str to decide wat u wear as well

[Mid_EastKING]

in babel we have a load of wizards , rogues , and glaives ... i think int users have dropped a bit becuase of their one hit deaths by euros.. as usual we have like 2 warlocks XD and 1000s of gold spammers

but yea im gonna move away from the LA and try this new idea , if im right, the 20% should compensate the phy / mag defense loss in the switch and actually bring more positives

[CLOT]

in babel we have a load of wizards , rogues , and glaives ... i think int users have dropped a bit becuase of their one hit deaths by euros.. as usual we have like 2 warlocks XD and 1000s of gold spammers

but yea im gonna move away from the LA and try this new idea , if im right, the 20% should compensate the phy / mag defense loss in the switch and actually bring more positives

wow u beat our server, we hv oni 1 pure int warlock lvl 80+

[_Scarlett_]

I've always wondered why I was the only tank in my union going Light Armor, when the rest are going heavy armor, or robes...Anywho, on topic:

With the Faith skill, which you'll need to level anywho if you want a competent cleric sub, its passive is only active if you have robe with cleric rod equipted. So, with robes on when you switch to clericing, you'll have the 20% healing boost, and the other boosts as well, but not when you switch back to rogue/whatever.

However, for an overall better "tanking" approach to the cleric sub, Light Armor would be a better choice in my opinion. Seeing as you have Charity, and the other physical and magical defense passives when you have cleric rod equipted, you can also give yourself body/soul blessing/deity, which'll give you even more defense for when you really need to tank. Plus, being able to heal constantly helps ^,^.

Also, with the Faith passive, you can get the Cleric mastery's absolute damage skills: Glut/Over healing, which come in handy against certain builds, i.e., rogues, wizards, clerics, etc.

Robes are a good choice against wizards, and sometimes chinese (due to their hybrid damage). However, against any STR based euro, you'll be lucky to stand after 1 or 2 hits.

[ahmedsabry]

really not worth it:
1-only makes a difference when u have the cleric rod on, in such case u'll be either buffing a party or tanking a wizard.. in both conditions u'll need the passives
2-u dont want to see warriors kicking ur butt in robes, do u?
3-robes are horrible for soloing, and since rogues are mainly a solo build so..
4-with recovery division + healing cycle/orbit u'll be healing like insane anyway.. u wont be needing any more healing, u'll need more defence to back up that healing
5-light armor looks sexy

[Mid_EastKING]

man light armor when male...... looks like you picked up a couple of rusty barrels and nailed them together LOL

[_Scarlett_]

man light armor when male...... looks like you picked up a couple of rusty barrels and nailed them together LOL

Lol so true...the female LA on the otherhand is hawt

[Mefra]

Hmm...love it Seems like I'm the only Rogue wearing Robes

Anyway, at what lvl do you have your cleric sub? I've got it at 40, so if you happen to also have it at 40 we could just try it out.