Chinese nuker or European nuker?

[Spader]

I'm having a little bit of a hard time chosing here. Wich one is the best, Chinese nuker or European nuker (Wizard)?

Thank you

[tedtwilliger]

for damage: wizard

for survivability: chinese

I guess it comes down to what you want to do as a nuker. if you want to deal the most damage in the game of all classes, go european. if you want to deal good damage but still have the ability to tank quite well, go chinese

[Spader]

for damage: wizard

for survivability: chinese

I guess it comes down to what you want to do as a nuker. if you want to deal the most damage in the game of all classes, go european. if you want to deal good damage but still have the ability to tank quite well, go chinese

Would a Chinese nuker kill an European nuker (both 80, equal gear)?

[deep.in]

for damage: wizard

for survivability: chinese

I guess it comes down to what you want to do as a nuker. if you want to deal the most damage in the game of all classes, go european. if you want to deal good damage but still have the ability to tank quite well, go chinese

Would a Chinese nuker kill an European nuker (both 80, equal gear)?

Yes, it will 1hit wizard, but wizard will also 1hit chinese Go China

[Spader]

Would a Chinese nuker kill an European nuker (both 80, equal gear)?

Yes, it will 1hit wizard, but wizard will also 1hit chinese Go China

Haha, that's kinda sad. Thanks, I'll go with the Chinese.

[tedtwilliger]

Your statement is too simple.

You don't say what trees each build has. You don't say whether they are pure or not. You don't say what specifically the gears are or the skill level of the operators. You make no mention of if there is any external buffs into play, where they are located, who saw who first, if they have seen each other. You don't make mention to any luck factors, they often make the difference in this kind of battle. Not to mention the thousands of countless variables i have not mentioned.

They will both kill each other at certain times, simple enough?

[Spader]

Your statement is too simple.

You don't say what trees each build has. You don't say whether they are pure or not. You don't say what specifically the gears are or the skill level of the operators. You make no mention of if there is any external buffs into play, where they are located, who saw who first, if they have seen each other. You don't make mention to any luck factors, they often make the difference in this kind of battle. Not to mention the thousands of countless variables i have not mentioned.

They will both kill each other at certain times, simple enough?

For me, yeah ^^.

[William-CL]

for damage: wizard

for survivability: chinese

I guess it comes down to what you want to do as a nuker. if you want to deal the most damage in the game of all classes, go european. if you want to deal good damage but still have the ability to tank quite well, go chinese

Would a Chinese nuker kill an European nuker (both 80, equal gear)?

Between those 2 it depend on who gets the first shot usually. Wizard is hopeless in pvp against Full str with good gear. Best go Chinese if you hate dieing. But wizard is very good in pt play. And good at thiefing with invis.

[Spader]

Thanks, I'll mostly PvP.

[Oryx]

My lvl 63 wiz/cleric can tank same level nukes with shield on WITHOUT bless, so no a wiz won't necessarily die in one hit. The nuker, however, most likely will unless they block. Also, I don't think they are hopeless against Chinese str with good gear, especially if the wizard also has good gear. Maybe this will change in 8d.

[brentonsbbe359]

chinese S/S pure int fire 80- lightning- 80 bicheon- 80 cold - 60 protector. is a great build. lol... and wrong section.... should be under characters skills

[Phix]

for damage: wizard

for survivability: chinese

I guess it comes down to what you want to do as a nuker. if you want to deal the most damage in the game of all classes, go european. if you want to deal good damage but still have the ability to tank quite well, go chinese

Would a Chinese nuker kill an European nuker (both 80, equal gear)?

Yes, it will 1hit wizard, but wizard will also 1hit chinese Go China

arent wizard nukers faster then chinese nukes and wizards go invis? so eeugh.. wizard should i repeat SHOULD always win. hehe i got lowlvl chiense nuker and lvl 64 bower str.. so i wouldnt know.. i guess XD

[Spader]

and wrong section.... should be under characters skills

I beg to differ.

[antics]

could a garment ful int s/s survive a nuke from a wizard?

[lemonsareyum]

Well. I if I had to choose I probably couldn’t I think the matchup is equal.

Wizard

-Invisibility (for devastating 1 hit attacks)
-Has the benefit of having a sub-class (Bard, Cleric, or Warlock. Personally Cleric)
-Life Control/Turnover (cuts hp ½ but your damage increases)
-Nukes are stronger than Chinese (this is a 1 hit game, the more damage the better)

Nuker
-Can have a shield (only if the build is s/s, this helps a lot in survivability + def)
-Can move fast (only if they have the Wind Walk Series, which they always do)
-Pot Delay (Its not much use though, this is a 1-hit game)
-Detection (If they have the Fire Combustion Series, they can “de-stealth” a Wizard)
-Fire Wall Series (The player’s MP is sacrificed for invincibility.)
-Crystal Wall Series (Essentially the same thing as the Fire Wall Series but for physical)
-Increased Health (only if a Spear nuker, the Cheolsam Force Passive increases hp.)

[dannoob]

jsut wondering cant chinese throw up lvl 1 fire wall? as well a bicheon nuker usualyl also has either kd or blade force/swords dance trees which all shoot faster than the wiz nukes. just wondering wouldnt that be enough tot ake out a wiz at high lvls i know it can at low lvls

[salmissra]

a wizard without bless spelll...it'll probably one hit them..but if the wiz knockbacks and nukes...usually the wiz wins..

BUT u mentioned the two best things a chinese nuker can have...snow shield and the physical def increase (bicheon i think) and magical defense increase (heuksal). since these buffs are always with you (dont have to depend on a cleric) and fast to cast...very useful for wars...

but a high lvl wizard with a GOOOD +5 staff can usually one hit almost everyone.