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When did you start using XLarge pots when grinding? Or do you still use large at lvl 80? And only XLarge for PvPing/Jobbing.

As a pure str I started using XL HP pots at level 75 or 76, when I started killing mages and shamans. XL MP would be a waste, large is enough.

Well since I'm euro I started to waste XL pots ASAP ... about lv.60 ... and MP pots are always and will be Large for full str ... it fills like 80% of my mp ...

I'm 64 fighting niya guards/bone soldiers/snipers/hunters so im with XL in case i get a crit, or facing a pt mob so i can refill quickly, i don't really use a lot out there so it's ok, just to make sure i don't die

well, this is embarrasing I guess...

Level 35 is when I started using next to largest Health and Largest Mana (Yes, the ones you get in Hotan).

I grind solo first off. Whether that makes a difference, I have no idea, The other reasons are:

Why the XL Mana: I seem to cast too much, too fast so need the XL mana in order to stay continuous, lag alone is a killer for me, I do not need to be unable to cast a spell because my mana is used up and pot is still waiting to be used.

Health because by the time I am able to reuse a health pot again, I have been hit considerably, AND the larger overfills my health but, since I'm taking hits as its healing, it covers that damage too.

While doing all this, I also use the VIGOR pots faithfully. They are my emergency pots when something goes unexpected, such as lag that puts me near death, or I'm just concerned of getting a 2k Crit hit and only have 1700 health and the pot is "recharging".

THAT said, I wish you could make VIGORS! If you can, tell me how! LOL

avenqerz wrote:well, this is embarrasing I guess...

Level 35 is when I started using next to largest Health and Largest Mana (Yes, the ones you get in Hotan).

I grind solo first off. Whether that makes a difference, I have no idea, The other reasons are:

Why the XL Mana: I seem to cast too much, too fast so need the XL mana in order to stay continuous, lag alone is a killer for me, I do not need to be unable to cast a spell because my mana is used up and pot is still waiting to be used.

Health because by the time I am able to reuse a health pot again, I have been hit considerably, AND the larger overfills my health but, since I'm taking hits as its healing, it covers that damage too.

While doing all this, I also use the VIGOR pots faithfully. They are my emergency pots when something goes unexpected, such as lag that puts me near death, or I'm just concerned of getting a 2k Crit hit and only have 1700 health and the pot is "recharging".

THAT said, I wish you could make VIGORS! If you can, tell me how! LOL

you are doing something wrong.
try your own level mobs.
fix your gear (blues and at least have +3 gear)
get a better weapon (kill the mobs before they hit you)

using those pots at that level wastes a lot of your gold and you sound like your one of those players who think the exp per kill is more important than the exp in a certain time.

large hp pots and xxl mp

borat2 wrote:you are doing something wrong.
try your own level mobs.
fix your gear (blues and at least have +3 gear)
get a better weapon (kill the mobs before they hit you)

using those pots at that level wastes a lot of your gold and you sound like your one of those players who think the exp per kill is more important than the exp in a certain time.

large hp pots and xxl mp

Most gear has at least +2 or +3 Str as a "Blue"
Almost all gear is +3 (If not, then +2)
Gap for getting some SP is only at 2 and monsters are only 1-4 levels higher than my level of clothing.

So... level 36 clothing for level 37-40 creatures.

Weapon is level 38 and kills in 1 shot, 2 shot if champ.

I dont know what else to do...

But grinding in level 36 or less seems like a waste.

But I'll take some advise...

Avenqerz...what is your build? Euro ints need vigors to survive...try to buy them from stalls (if you can afford xl/large all the time...that wouldnt be a problem )

<-- not been in de xl range yet so no answer for that =]

pure str glavie i never used XL pots. never bought em never saw the need.

At 42 on my wizard I started using XL MP pots (they recovered about 50% of my mp)

HP i could still use mediums lol...

BanKai

If you fight in parties.

You're going to need to use Hp Large at around 35 for tanks

Mp large for ints at around 4x unless you have a bard around you 24/7

I started using Hp XL on my tank at level 42 because I was tanking penons.

MP XL is necessary for most euro ints that party starting 60+, the nukes become extremely costly, if you're a cleric Mp XL should be used from second you can afford them, it's just safer that way.

However, I know some euro party-ers at Generals that rely 100% on bard and cleric and carry 1 stack of each pot, large at that.


If you fight solo, on my chinese glaiver and blader i didnt start using HP XL till around 64+ and even then it wasn't really necessary.

GodsAngel wrote:If you fight in parties.

You're going to need to use Hp Large at around 35 for tanks

Mp large for ints at around 4x unless you have a bard around you 24/7

I started using Hp XL on my tank at level 42 because I was tanking penons.

MP XL is necessary for most euro ints that party starting 60+, the nukes become extremely costly, if you're a cleric Mp XL should be used from second you can afford them, it's just safer that way.

However, I know some euro party-ers at Generals that rely 100% on bard and cleric and carry 1 stack of each pot, large at that.


If you fight solo, on my chinese glaiver and blader i didnt start using HP XL till around 64+ and even then it wasn't really necessary.

So basically, euro's are pot hogs?

at lvl 64 i used xlarge for jobbing and large for mobs

avenqerz wrote:
So basically, euro's are pot hogs?

nah, on my chinese char I used to have to bring around 250 HP XL and 700 MP large or so every time I went grinding..

on my euro rouge / cleric I only need 50 hp xl and around 300 mp and it lasts just as long

Super8 wrote:

avenqerz wrote:
So basically, euro's are pot hogs?

nah, on my chinese char I used to have to bring around 250 HP XL and 700 MP large or so every time I went grinding..

on my euro rouge / cleric I only need 50 hp xl and around 300 mp and it lasts just as long

GodsAngel is talking about 1hand/2hand/dual axe (tank), not a rogue. it easy for you if you're range with xbow, killing the mob before it comes to hit you.
Like he said, we started to grind at penons @ lvl 42-43 (8men pt all the way up), plus, you lure pt mobs, not 1-2, sometimes you lure 10 pt mobs, depends on your party potential.
And for MP XL ask some hi lvl wizard, even with a bard behind he's sometimes out of MP.

avenqerz wrote:

GodsAngel wrote:If you fight in parties.

You're going to need to use Hp Large at around 35 for tanks

Mp large for ints at around 4x unless you have a bard around you 24/7

I started using Hp XL on my tank at level 42 because I was tanking penons.

MP XL is necessary for most euro ints that party starting 60+, the nukes become extremely costly, if you're a cleric Mp XL should be used from second you can afford them, it's just safer that way.

However, I know some euro party-ers at Generals that rely 100% on bard and cleric and carry 1 stack of each pot, large at that.


If you fight solo, on my chinese glaiver and blader i didnt start using HP XL till around 64+ and even then it wasn't really necessary.

So basically, euro's are pot hogs?

not necessarily, those pots are for emergencies, usually we have a cleric and bard. sometimes I go back to town and i see i haven't used a single pot, other times I come back wondering why I didn't bring enough.

in an emergency, we have that 15 second pot delay so, the bigger the better. and euro int skills require a bard definitely, they are mana hogs.