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alchemy and high +'s

Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 4:21 pm
by aazumak
i see alot of people saying they try for +9. fail and lose the item.

can i assume they just didn't have immortal on it? or does immortal only work for a certain amount of +?

if i have immortal and astral, when i fail it should go back to +4 right?



also for lucky, does lucky only work once or does lucky 6/6 work 6 times as effectively as lucky 1/6? id really like to know that about lucky

Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 4:25 pm
by ColourBlind
Immortal is for +4 & above so if you fail to +5 the item won't break, cause wpns / amour / acc's break after that
As for Astral that's for saving it to +4 instead of +0 again

Lucky is used once everytime you try + so 6 lucky means you have it 6 times

Re: alchemy and high +'s

Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 4:26 pm
by cin
aazumak wrote:can i assume they just didn't have immortal on it? or does immortal only work for a certain amount of +?

as far as i know, immortal works with any amount of +

aazumak wrote:also for lucky, does lucky only work once or does lucky 6/6 work 6 times as effectively as lucky 1/6? id really like to know that about lucky

as far as i know, each lucky slightly increases your luck, but its still luck
based. that means that you can pump as many luck into your item as you want,
but there will always be a chance on failing.

Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 6:33 pm
by aazumak
aye but 6/6 lucky has a better chance of success than 1/6 lucky?

i think this makes sense since there is a chance that all of the lucky will go away, so it should make sense that the higher lucky there is, the better the chance. im not sure though :/

Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 10:06 pm
by ColourBlind
aazumak wrote:aye but 6/6 lucky has a better chance of success than 1/6 lucky?

i think this makes sense since there is a chance that all of the lucky will go away, so it should make sense that the higher lucky there is, the better the chance. im not sure though :/


Nope, 1/1 6/6 5/5 doesn't matter, cause each 1 means you have ONE lucky stat & when you use it, it goes down to 5/5 from 6/6 even if you failed to + whatever your trying to +

So having a lucky powder + lucky on the wpn you'd think you'd have better chance in success but ima not sure :P

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 1:53 am
by aazumak
but if you have lucky 6/6, theres a chance it all goes away...


ok thanks for clearing it up though, that means alot less lucky stone si have to make :P

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 1:56 am
by devilti
ColourBlind wrote:Immortal is for +4 & above so if you fail to +5 the item won't break, cause wpns / amour / acc's break after that
As for Astral that's for saving it to +4 instead of +0 again

Lucky is used once everytime you try + so 6 lucky means you have it 6 times


just a little correction. immortal works for all +'s.
ITs astral that works only after +4

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 4:34 pm
by ColourBlind
devilti wrote:
ColourBlind wrote:Immortal is for +4 & above so if you fail to +5 the item won't break, cause wpns / amour / acc's break after that
As for Astral that's for saving it to +4 instead of +0 again

Lucky is used once everytime you try + so 6 lucky means you have it 6 times


just a little correction. immortal works for all +'s.
ITs astral that works only after +4

Thanks :P

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 4:37 pm
by ColourBlind
aazumak wrote:but if you have lucky 6/6, theres a chance it all goes away...


ok thanks for clearing it up though, that means alot less lucky stone si have to make :P

6/6 means you have 6 luckys soo...

say you had 4/4 lucky
You try +1 your +0 ... you made it +1
your lucky goes down to 3/3 cause you used ONE for the +1 from +0
Then you try +2 ... fails ... goes back to +0
your lucky goes down to 2/2 cause like above you used ONE etc etc etc
If you don't get it then i give up :P

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 11:44 pm
by aazumak
ColourBlind wrote:
aazumak wrote:but if you have lucky 6/6, theres a chance it all goes away...


ok thanks for clearing it up though, that means alot less lucky stone si have to make :P

6/6 means you have 6 luckys soo...

say you had 4/4 lucky
You try +1 your +0 ... you made it +1
your lucky goes down to 3/3 cause you used ONE for the +1 from +0
Then you try +2 ... fails ... goes back to +0
your lucky goes down to 2/2 cause like above you used ONE etc etc etc
If you don't get it then i give up :P



but thats not true! ive had a 4 lucky and made a +2 into a +3 and all teh luckies went away

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 11:54 pm
by ColourBlind
aazumak wrote:
ColourBlind wrote:
aazumak wrote:but if you have lucky 6/6, theres a chance it all goes away...


ok thanks for clearing it up though, that means alot less lucky stone si have to make :P

6/6 means you have 6 luckys soo...

say you had 4/4 lucky
You try +1 your +0 ... you made it +1
your lucky goes down to 3/3 cause you used ONE for the +1 from +0
Then you try +2 ... fails ... goes back to +0
your lucky goes down to 2/2 cause like above you used ONE etc etc etc
If you don't get it then i give up :P



but thats not true! ive had a 4 lucky and made a +2 into a +3 and all teh luckies went away

Has never happened to me before, hmm strange :shock:

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 1:02 am
by aazumak
i assume im incorrect some way, it was a while ago, i think im just stupid.


ill take your word for it :P

thnks for your help