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Whats better, Euro vs China?

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 3:56 am
by KeVo
I always thought chinease was better, but then euro seems to be so much easier, dont need to sp farm, etc....

In a PvP who would win a lvl 80 pure int, chinease vs lvl 80 pure int euro?

Thxs inf advance.

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 5:30 am
by Death2U
Azn > Europeans

Applies ingame and IRL too.

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 5:38 am
by _Shinigami_
Its really matters how u want to play

Solo-Chinese
Party-Euro

oh and a wizard(INT) would always beat a nuker(INT) anyday if their the same lvl

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 5:44 am
by KeVo
y would euro int beat chin int?


ASIAN PRIDE 8)

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 7:32 am
by nphillip
chinese ftw!

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 8:15 am
by Valkasdar
80 lvl stealthet rogue that shoot you and knock down u from miles away
Yeahh -.-' china ppl are better sure :D

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 11:53 am
by deep.in
nphillip wrote:chinese ftw!


+1

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 5:28 pm
by KeVo
then how about these.

E = Euro, C = Chinease, P = Pure, S = STR, I = INT

EPS vs CPS
EPI vs CPS
EPS vs CPI
EPI vs CPI



which side would win? and why do you think C is better then E? are the abilities cooler or something?

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 6:22 pm
by deep.in
KeVo wrote:then how about these.

E = Euro, C = Chinease, P = Pure, S = STR, I = INT

EPS vs CPS
EPI vs CPS
EPS vs CPI
EPI vs CPI



which side would win? and why do you think C is better then E? are the abilities cooler or something?


I don't care who is better in pvp and ect. Euro chars (male) just looks too gay for me :) Yes, thats the reason why chinese ftw :P

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 6:35 pm
by xJAWZx
deep.in wrote:
KeVo wrote:then how about these.

E = Euro, C = Chinease, P = Pure, S = STR, I = INT

EPS vs CPS
EPI vs CPS
EPS vs CPI
EPI vs CPI



which side would win? and why do you think C is better then E? are the abilities cooler or something?


I don't care who is better in pvp and ect. Euro chars (male) just looks too gay for me :) Yes, thats the reason why chinese ftw :P


+100, lol that is the exact reason i play on chinese, but the MAIN thing that i think is that armor both ruo and chinese both look bad ass, but light, protector, robe, garment can look alright later lvls but look gay for the most part...all chinese are looks pretty good, garment and protector kind of looks like elf stuff but oh well a elf can kick a euros skinny ass.

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 9:18 pm
by dude1977956
xJAWZx wrote:+100, lol that is the exact reason i play on chinese, but the MAIN thing that i think is that armor both ruo and chinese both look bad ass, but light, protector, robe, garment can look alright later lvls but look gay for the most part...all chinese are looks pretty good, garment and protector kind of looks like elf stuff but oh well a elf can kick a euros skinny ass.

+(a number that is bigger then the one your thinking of)

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 9:53 pm
by KeVo
okay.. anything other then looks?

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 7:29 pm
by KeVo
bump

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 8:52 pm
by foudre
so no one votes for europeans?how lame i bet all of you auto potion, for fun play euorpeans win since you have to actually pay attention not just oh lightning imbue smash move pedal move dead i got hurt but oh well i have auto potion to take away the actual game play for me. Saying europeans are easier because you don't really have to farm is not a very good reason it just means you don't have to spend as much time (btw if you want a wizzard you need to farm, or a rogue with both crossbow and daggers or a warrior that can use more then 1 weapon skill set) Europeans do have better skills, only still can't out do auto potion in a fight, unless you are a warlock or wizzard they'll deal enough dmg to kill a full str in 1 hit on lvl once they can get they get to like lvl 24. Europeans are harder because they can't take advantage of auto potion the same and those require you to actually play instead of just letting the game play half of itself. Europeans light armor does look lame, heavy looks sweet at all degrees, robes look pretty cool too as did the chinese garments if you took of the shoulder things and goofy hats, but the robe hats actually look good up the chain rather then being cool untill 4th degree then making you wonder who thought of this lame hat. Europeans are harder to play not easier in fact even in a party it gets harder if you are alone with them in the middle of no where you'll have so many party monsters spawning, and if you go solo it can be pretty rough too, not having to sp farm actually keeps the lvling proccess at a fun rate. So if you want to play a fun game be euro, if you just wanna abuse auto potion and have a money funded aura of immortality play chinese

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 9:57 pm
by KeVo
not rly.. auto pot doesnt help that much in beggining lvls..

when u sp farm, in the beggining lvls, you suck... like seriously, you cant find any decent quest when ur lvl 11 - 13, and you cant kill any tigers n such, so you have to go and train on bandit subs, but since there so far away, you usually train on yeouhs or that tree thing.. and you get like .30- .40 of a percent each time... and you arent even sp farming yet... it takes like 5 days to get to lvl 19, only so you can delevel yourself so you can sp train more... and without a sox bow either.. euro chars, can train and such, but when they do, they dont have to do it anywhere near as much as chinease chars...

also, you have to sit down and heal, or use a pot after EVERY tiger kill.. it gets annoyingly painful..

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 10:06 pm
by foudre
5 days to lvl 19? umm not really more like 2 or 3 days farming from lvl 5 to lvl 20, can be done i have and a freind of mine did it too, sure auto potion helps alot once you get to tigers, even full int you should be able to handle tigers at like lvl 10 with auto pot, so long as you don't get a pack of them on you.

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 10:15 pm
by Grimjaw
Chinese > European.

Kicking their buttocks with ease while still having time to eat Ramen.

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 10:27 pm
by KeVo
foudre wrote:5 days to lvl 19? umm not really more like 2 or 3 days farming from lvl 5 to lvl 20, can be done i have and a freind of mine did it too, sure auto potion helps alot once you get to tigers, even full int you should be able to handle tigers at like lvl 10 with auto pot, so long as you don't get a pack of them on you.



but thats just your fren.. sure theres some guy in the world that could say hold his breath for 10 min. but none of us can do it...

Also, since this is my first account in herc, i have to save up money for SoX bow once im lvl 16... so i cant buy much herbs.

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 2:01 am
by Phalanx948
Death2U wrote:Azn > Europeans

Applies ingame and IRL too.


*Dies of laughter*

Silly racist, history seems to disagree with you. :D

(Anatomy does too...) :wink:

KeVo wrote:ASIAN PRIDE 8)


But if someone were to say "White Pride 8)", all hell would break loose. :roll:

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 3:10 am
by KeVo
Actually history does agree with us. China originally was WAS the strongest empire/kingdom at some moment. They were more advanced, better weapons, smarter ppl, etc. But they were also VERY kind, if they felt like it, they could have controled pretty much 1/3 of the world and/or more. BUT Europe, stole MOST of Chinas developments, and used it against the world. Like gunpowder was created in China, even things such as food. Italians, stole China's "chow mein" and changed its name, added some sauce, that they gained from trading with China and called it "spaghetti"

Currently, Whites are stronger then Asians, but Asians are gaining more power, and getting more advanced every year. B4 USA was the #1 Super Empire, #1 in everything litteraly, but Japan took reaserch (i.e. the cars, the games) and China is gonna take, Acedemic studies (in other words, there kids are gonna be smarter then our kids)

Another piece of proof is, think about it who is the smartest person in math class? who do you ask for help on your homework? who do you call "a nerd"?


EDIT: Of course some1 wouldnt say White Pride, if you got White pride its called White Power, africans, Black Powuh, and mexicans, Viva La Revolution

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 3:32 am
by Phalanx948
KeVo wrote:Actually history does agree with us. China originally was WAS the strongest empire/kingdom at some moment. They were more advanced, better weapons, smarter ppl, etc. But they were also VERY kind, if they felt like it, they could have controled pretty much 1/3 of the world and/or more. BUT Europe, stole MOST of Chinas developments, and used it against the world. Like gunpowder was created in China, even things such as food. Italians, stole China's "chow mein" and changed its name, added some sauce, that they gained from trading with China and called it "spaghetti"

Currently, Whites are stronger then Asians, but Asians are gaining more power, and getting more advanced every year. B4 USA was the #1 Super Empire, #1 in everything litteraly, but Japan took reaserch (i.e. the cars, the games) and China is gonna take, Acedemic studies (in other words, there kids are gonna be smarter then our kids)

Another piece of proof is, think about it who is the smartest person in math class? who do you ask for help on your homework? who do you call "a nerd"?


EDIT: Of course some1 wouldnt say White Pride, if you got White pride its called White Power, africans, Black Powuh, and mexicans, Viva La Revolution


Who really cares? We are human Farking beings. It doesn't matter who is stronger. e_e

As for "stolen technology", that's the way it works. Nobody would ever advance technologically, or it would at least take much more time to do so, if everybody limited themselves to their own technological discoveries.

The world bleeds, and nobody seems to notice. They're too busy arguing over who's genes/heritage/car/etc are "better". :roll:

Edit: Lol at the profanity filter. >_>

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 6:09 am
by kellinatorv1
mann
euro wizard lvl 80 = one hit pure str 80's
euros cant pvp but they **** up euros in guild wars and job wars
and euros dont need pots at lvl 80 with ahealer theyll recover faster than if there was extra extra large pots

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 3:14 pm
by boast
KeVo wrote:Another piece of proof is, think about it who is the smartest person in math class? who do you ask for help on your homework? who do you call "a nerd"?


and guess which country they'll be doing research for.

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 7:33 pm
by Master_Mind
if a chinese would pvp a euro at same lvl the euro beats the chinese but in pve i think its opposite cuz of the lame pot delay -.-

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 10:11 pm
by Phalanx948
KeVo wrote:Another piece of proof is, think about it who is the smartest person in math class? who do you ask for help on your homework? who do you call "a nerd"?


This has absolutely nothing to do with anything. It has yet to be proven whether or not intelligence is genetic. You call that "proof"? I call it a stereotype.

Just to play into your little "smartness" argument, I had two asian kids in my algebra class two years ago, neither of which had the highest average score for that class.

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 10:28 pm
by KeVo
Phalanx948 wrote:
KeVo wrote:Another piece of proof is, think about it who is the smartest person in math class? who do you ask for help on your homework? who do you call "a nerd"?


This has absolutely nothing to do with anything. It has yet to be proven whether or not intelligence is genetic. You call that "proof"? I call it a stereotype.

Just to play into your little "smartness" argument, I had two asian kids in my algebra class two years ago, neither of which had the highest average score for that class.


i know, some asians arent smart, but its the sterotype i was talking about.. it was called sarcasm u no..

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 6:39 am
by robby
IMO:

Euro: Is based on PARTY PLAY and is for ppl who look to enjoy Silkroad as a community. They generally have one strength or two, and multiple weaknesses, which are in turn covered by other Euro classes. Europeans in PvP either usually get 1-2 shotted or deliver it, this is a result of their pot delay. They have a pot delay of 15 seconds because they were not designed for a 1v1 fight, giving them a low pot delay rate would result in a duplication of China and its Chinese charcters. Euro IMO is more fun overall and are the main stays for any multiple person event (Guild wars, Unique killing etc).

Chinese: Is based on SOLO PLAY and is for ppl who look to enjoy Silkroad in solitude (usually). They have variations in number of strengths and weaknesses, but all are balanced and have a weakness against one type of class or another i.e THERE IS NO GOD BUILD. They are undoubtedly supreme at PvP just as undoubtedly Euros reign supreme in PvE ( well usally anyways :wink: ). Chinese IMO is less fun overall and are the lone wolves, able to survive by themselves and having not to rely for anyones support, and is there for those who have a sadistic pleasure in killing another player and mocking them, which is just what I like :wink:

In Conclusion:
Euro: You like company and PvE
Chinese: You like being alone and PvP

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 7:08 am
by drey7000
foudre wrote:so no one votes for europeans?how lame i bet all of you auto potion, for fun play euorpeans win since you have to actually pay attention not just oh lightning imbue smash move pedal move dead i got hurt but oh well i have auto potion to take away the actual game play for me. Saying europeans are easier because you don't really have to farm is not a very good reason it just means you don't have to spend as much time (btw if you want a wizzard you need to farm, or a rogue with both crossbow and daggers or a warrior that can use more then 1 weapon skill set) Europeans do have better skills, only still can't out do auto potion in a fight, unless you are a warlock or wizzard they'll deal enough dmg to kill a full str in 1 hit on lvl once they can get they get to like lvl 24. Europeans are harder because they can't take advantage of auto potion the same and those require you to actually play instead of just letting the game play half of itself. Europeans light armor does look lame, heavy looks sweet at all degrees, robes look pretty cool too as did the chinese garments if you took of the shoulder things and goofy hats, but the robe hats actually look good up the chain rather then being cool untill 4th degree then making you wonder who thought of this lame hat. Europeans are harder to play not easier in fact even in a party it gets harder if you are alone with them in the middle of no where you'll have so many party monsters spawning, and if you go solo it can be pretty rough too, not having to sp farm actually keeps the lvling proccess at a fun rate. So if you want to play a fun game be euro, if you just wanna abuse auto potion and have a money funded aura of immortality play chinese


Excellent point. Yes you do need to pay more attention to the european characters, but in PvP I have beaten chinese players before. i'll admit, it was 1/3 battles that i had won, but he was starting out at range and 3 levels higher(full str archer vs 2h war). Now like you said, the europeans require more attention from the player himself. I find that everyone is voting chines simply because of autopot... and come on not all the chinese armors look that good. I love my warrior and i enjoy playing it alot even with the cr.appy auto pot, but the only thing i hate about euro is finding a compitent group that will appreciate me as a tank, because most groups think they can live with or without a tank... then if one player dies, suddenly its the tank's fault who didnt do anything... uhmm, did i go offtopic?

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 7:21 am
by DeathBeforeDishonor
depends if the chinese nuker can tank a little bit...because euros pot delay is killer...so really they only can pot once each fight

(pacific) euro vs china blabla

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 8:16 am
by anhkevin
It's very stupid for people to say their euro is better blabla. "i can one hit 3-6 lvl higher" "I can do 4k crt at low lvl" blabla. BS! You may youtube ur killing with a lucky crt and said it's a real fight. Stop ur stupid nosense comments about which race is better. Ur youtube video mean nothing. Prove me wrong. i'm in pacific server and atm lvl 63. I dare any euro chara my lvl to a pvp. pm or msg me and prove me wrong.