Why 3rd book of LS lvl 1 do less Damage than 1st Nuke lvl 9

Jazba · Post by **Jazba** » Sun Jul 08, 2007 11:32 pm

3rd book of lion shout lvl 1= magical damage = 272~504
1st book of lightning nuke lvl 9 = mag damage= 226~420

but still LS damage is less than 1st nuke lvl 9 nuke

Even for Pure INT's

Can someone explain it please.

[SD]happynoobing · Post by **[SD]happynoobing** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 12:54 am

the percentage after the numbers are different?

Jazba · Post by **Jazba** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 1:22 am

lol , i have no idea how the hell u became 1337 member.
but percentage after damage is casting time of nuke,skill,imbue.
anyways thx for reply

[SD]happynoobing · Post by **[SD]happynoobing** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 1:59 am

it's both... the higher the % = longer casting time + higher dmg.

user · Post by **user** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 2:37 am

[SD]happynoobing wrote:it's both... the higher the % = longer casting time + higher dmg.

i read that its the delay time

back to the post, when you max the fire nuke, it will become more powerful than the lightning nuke maxed

Jazba · Post by **Jazba** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 4:03 am

omg lol
i m talking bout lion shout and lighitning nuke
lol where the fire nuke came from
i m comparing 3rd book of lion shout 1st skill and 1book of lighting nuke 9th skill

user · Post by **user** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 4:35 am

oh, well, now you know what you get when you compare fire nuke against lightning nuke ^^

__MagnuS__ · Post by **__MagnuS__** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 6:14 am

LS is NOT a nuke, that's why it does WAY less damage than ANY book of ANY nuke. It is like the blade skill that launches a small wave to hit the enemy. It is ment to attract mobs, of finish them off. That's it. The numbers mean nothing at all in comparrison to the nuke numbers. Look at any weapon skills, they have damage just the same or better than some of the nukes. But, what hits harder? NUKES FTW. LS is a finishing off skill, nothing more man.

Jazba · Post by **Jazba** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 9:26 am

__MagnuS__ wrote:LS is NOT a nuke, that's why it does WAY less damage than ANY book of ANY nuke. It is like the blade skill that launches a small wave to hit the enemy. It is ment to attract mobs, of finish them off. That's it. The numbers mean nothing at all in comparrison to the nuke numbers. Look at any weapon skills, they have damage just the same or better than some of the nukes. But, what hits harder? NUKES FTW. LS is a finishing off skill, nothing more man.

first of all nukes have the highest damage in numbers in sro
highest damage by physical skill is not even the half of highest damage of a nuke, highest physical damage is from ghost mars spear 399~514
highest damage from a nuke is 2nd book of fire 548~913
only and only physical damage excedes magical damage when str crit's in zerk form.
2nd of all every weapon in the game have higher magical damage than physical damage.

lion shout is a nuke because it says magical attack power increase

William-CL · Post by **William-CL** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 10:19 am

The longer it takes to cast, the more damage the skill does, plain and simple. You will notice that your nukes take a bit longer to cast sometimes and end up doing more damage,

__MagnuS__ · Post by **__MagnuS__** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 4:54 pm

Jazba wrote:
__MagnuS__ wrote:LS is NOT a nuke, that's why it does WAY less damage than ANY book of ANY nuke. It is like the blade skill that launches a small wave to hit the enemy. It is ment to attract mobs, of finish them off. That's it. The numbers mean nothing at all in comparrison to the nuke numbers. Look at any weapon skills, they have damage just the same or better than some of the nukes. But, what hits harder? NUKES FTW. LS is a finishing off skill, nothing more man.

first of all nukes have the highest damage in numbers in sro
highest damage by physical skill is not even the half of highest damage of a nuke, highest physical damage is from ghost mars spear 399~514
highest damage from a nuke is 2nd book of fire 548~913
only and only physical damage excedes magical damage when str crit's in zerk form.
2nd of all every weapon in the game have higher magical damage than physical damage.

lion shout is a nuke because it says magical attack power increase

My LS doesn't say anything about Mag Att Power Increase. And as for the highest damage numbers in SRO, check out the weapon mag att power. LS is not a nuke, nukes start at lvl 30. If anything, it is what I said earlier, a finishing move.

Oshitaka · Post by **Oshitaka** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 2:46 am

ok..im really sorry to say this, but when i read what some of the people posted on this, i started laughing...

ok First, the actual Mag. Dmg of the skill isnt really the most important part. the MOST important part of the skill is the % next to the dmg

as you see, the % next to LS is 100%...so its gonna be that dmg + your mag. dmg on your char. stats

BUT...the dmg next to the nuke is 250% (1st nuke) 300% (second nuke)
so its like...triple the dmg because the % is 300 rather than 100

i hope this helps...if not

post questions

Sylhana · Post by **Sylhana** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 8:43 am

@Oshitaka +1

Base char magic damage* + skill x %

lion shout skill x 1 ie 272~504

Light nuke x 2.5 ie 565~1150

*[Base char magic damage = (mag atk value of wpn + mag reinforce x int stat) x (100 + force mastery) / 100 ] modified by atk/parry ratio

Oshitaka · Post by **Oshitaka** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 4:27 pm

very inciteful sylhana...nice explanation ^^