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Question about deleveling

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 2:11 pm
by joquin1337
Hi guys, I've been reading the fine stuff posted on this forum about strats and builds just read about the concept of "deleveling" a character.

My question is: there seem to be rumors to the effect that if you delevel your character, you will lose stat points, either Str or Int.

Is this true?

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 2:20 pm
by fena
Everytime you level up, you receive 5 stat points. 2 are automatically distributed for you - one into INT, and one into STR. 3 you get to manually distribute by yourself.
When you delevel, you lose the 2 that are automatically distributed for you, but not the 3 that you get to distribute yourself.

:)

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 2:20 pm
by shadowman20875
No, you don't, don't listen to imbeciles. However you may lost gear to storage.

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 5:22 am
by joquin1337
fena wrote:Everytime you level up, you receive 5 stat points. 2 are automatically distributed for you - one into INT, and one into STR. 3 you get to manually distribute by yourself.
When you delevel, you lose the 2 that are automatically distributed for you, but not the 3 that you get to distribute yourself.

:)


Thanks for the response.

Wow, bummer...cause I sort of was following the guides on this forum and deleveled to SP farm better.

Does shadowman mean that once you level up again, you get those 2 auto-distributed points back? Or do you lose them forever. Cause that would be baaaaaad.

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 5:26 am
by cin
you get the 2 auto distributed points back.

you cannot distribute the 3 other points yourself; they stay where you put
em before you deleveled. so actually you have lost no stat points when you
back on the level you were before.

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 5:48 am
by joquin1337
Thanks cin.

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 9:22 am
by Rainigul
You don't lose ANY stat points. Not even the auto-allocated ones.

I know this as a fact ok, everyone who says otherwise does not know what they are talking about.

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 12:26 pm
by Mirrrorman
I don't know who to believe!

The first theory posted by fena seems more convincing.

Any more expert opinions?

I never de-levelled, seems counter-productive to the whole concept of a level based game.

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 12:33 pm
by caseyd4
I Accidently De Levelled while out Hunting the Other day, and I Was still equiped with my lvl 38 bow and Ring after :? .. altho Im pretty sure the hits where like the hits of a lvl 1 bow

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 3:59 pm
by Rainigul
caseyd4 wrote:I Accidently De Levelled while out Hunting the Other day, and I Was still equiped with my lvl 38 bow and Ring after :? .. altho Im pretty sure the hits where like the hits of a lvl 1 bow


That's because you deleveled to level 37, where you could normally not use a level 38 bow, so the game made it weaker.

@topic starter, listen to me.
You keep all stat points after you delevel, I know as a fact because I've been on many hacked accounts, they all keep their stat points after deleveling.
You could even make a level 6 char, then delevel him just to see.

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 4:48 pm
by fena
Raini, you know that we :love: you, but you're wrong.
Each time you level, like I said, two points are automatically distributed for you - one into INT, and one into STR. Then, you get to distribute 3 points manually for yourself, into whatever you choose.
When you delevel, the 3 points that you manually distribute are GONE. However, when you level back up, you don't get to redistribute them. They're in the place that you distributed them into the first time.

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 5:20 pm
by Rainigul
fena wrote:Raini, you know that we :love: you, but you're wrong.
Each time you level, like I said, two points are automatically distributed for you - one into INT, and one into STR. Then, you get to distribute 3 points manually for yourself, into whatever you choose.
When you delevel, the 3 points that you manually distribute are GONE. However, when you level back up, you don't get to redistribute them. They're in the place that you distributed them into the first time.


I may be breaking the "law" here, but tell me that again after going on this account:

<< EDITED >>

its nice you can prove it, but take screenies next time ;)

- cin


I'm right.

:love: Though :)

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 1:12 am
by Dugu
[SD]Rainigul wrote:
fena wrote:Raini, you know that we :love: you, but you're wrong.
Each time you level, like I said, two points are automatically distributed for you - one into INT, and one into STR. Then, you get to distribute 3 points manually for yourself, into whatever you choose.
When you delevel, the 3 points that you manually distribute are GONE. However, when you level back up, you don't get to redistribute them. They're in the place that you distributed them into the first time.


I may be breaking the "law" here, but tell me that again after going on this account:

<< EDITED >>

nice u can prove sumthin, but take screenies next time ;)

- cin


I'm right.

:love: Though :)

The account is blocked:
http://img301.imageshack.us/my.php?imag ... 392nv1.jpg
http://img131.imageshack.us/my.php?imag ... 372rb2.jpg
http://img19.imageshack.us/my.php?image ... 647ud7.jpg

So, what do I win?

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 1:29 am
by fena
LOL.
So am I wrong? If I was, then sorry for misleading you, Joquin. Just read in multiple threads what I backed up, and what I might still be backing up. I believe SMS said that in another thread - I'll send him a PM and tell him to check this thread out.
But in the event that I AM wrong, that means that me and Cin are both wrong. Cin, be a dear and ban them both, won't you? :x :P

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 1:31 am
by cin
fena wrote:LOL.
So am I wrong? If I was, then sorry for misleading you, Joquin. Just read in multiple threads what I backed up, and what I might still be backing up. I believe SMS said that in another thread - I'll send him a PM and tell him to check this thread out.
But in the event that I AM wrong, that means that me and Cin are both wrong. Cin, be a dear and ban them both, won't you? :x :P

anything for you love :love:

:P

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 2:05 am
by joquin1337
Ah...thanks guys, Rain, it's nice to hear differing theories and even screenshots for the respective viewpoints. In the end, all I'm concerned about is the long term, which all parties seem to agree on: no permanent stat point loss for deleveling.

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 3:49 am
by Rainigul
joquin1337 wrote:Ah...thanks guys, Rain, it's nice to hear differing theories and even screenshots for the respective viewpoints. In the end, all I'm concerned about is the long term, which all parties seem to agree on: no permanent stat point loss for deleveling.


??? I'm not sure what you're saying, if you're implying that I was wrong... I'll just ask you to read my posts again, I have always said you lose no stat points upon deleveling.

@cin

Yeah, sorry I didn't take screenshots, but I really really hate getting in game when I'm not going to play for an hour +, if I'm not, it's just a waste of time in my book.

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 3:56 am
by cin
[SD]Rainigul wrote:@cin

Yeah, sorry I didn't take screenshots, but I really really hate getting in game when I'm not going to play for an hour +, if I'm not, it's just a waste of time in my book.

haha np :P