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About weapon alchemy

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 6:21 am
by vccy118
I got a LVL 16 SOM spear that I am trying to +3]
However, so far I only got it till +2, below are the sequence of my tries:
1st try:
+1
+2 (fail)

2nd try:
+1
+2
+3 (fail)

3rd try:
+1
+2
+3 (failed, I tried this after maintenance)

4th try:
+1 (failed, WTF)

5th try:
+1
+2 (failed)

Should I try for another +3?

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 6:33 am
by rabbit
i say go for it... alchemy is fun ^^

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 6:55 am
by timtam
Depends if you have anough elixirs/money.

You can always try for +3 and if it fails, get it easily back up to +2.

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 7:21 am
by vccy118
I already used up 7 elixirs, so is it worth it to get to +3?

EDIT: And how to add "Attack rating increase xx%" in blue words? Does it directly affect the damage of a weapon?

Sry for asking so much :oops:

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 7:50 am
by Axeoo7
vccy118 wrote:I already used up 7 elixirs, so is it worth it to get to +3?

EDIT: And how to add "Attack rating increase xx%" in blue words? Does it directly affect the damage of a weapon?

Sry for asking so much :oops:


Are you using lucky powders if no make sure you do and attack rating does increase your attack/damage directly.

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 7:59 am
by vccy118
yep, i used lucky powder for all except when i want to do +1

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 9:42 am
by rabbit
vccy118 wrote:I already used up 7 elixirs, so is it worth it to get to +3?

EDIT: And how to add "Attack rating increase xx%" in blue words? Does it directly affect the damage of a weapon?

Sry for asking so much :oops:


Attack rating increase is the jade tablet of strikes. It affects the damage by increasing the probability that u will roll the higher end dmg of the weapon you are using. It doesn't actually increase the dmg u do as far as I know.

You really shouldn't think about how much you've put into the weapon... those are already sunk costs. Although, that is a business major concept and most normal ppl don't take it into account. It's only worth trying for the +3 if you feel that the glow is worth it because in terms of dmg, 1 lvl doesn't make that much difference.

Re: About weapon alchemy

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 12:09 pm
by roflcopter
vccy118 wrote:I got a LVL 16 SOM spear that I am trying to +3]
However, so far I only got it till +2, below are the sequence of my tries:
1st try:
+1
+2 (fail)

2nd try:
+1
+2
+3 (fail)

3rd try:
+1
+2

Havent try on +3 because of server maintenace.

Should I try for another +3?


it looks to me like that weapon just doesnt wanna + big, id say accept it will prob only ever reach +3 at max. thats my experience i would save your elixirs for something with lucky attributes etc...

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 2:28 pm
by vccy118
UPDATES AFTER MAINTENANCE
3rd try:
+1
+2
+3 (failed, I tried this after maintenance)

4th try:
+1 (failed, WTF)

5th try:
+1
+2 (failed)

And now I am broke and stripped off my pants! HELP!

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 2:35 pm
by roflcopter
some things will just not + good, i spunked 8 sheild elixirs till i learnt that fact. and the damn thing was still +1 when i finished!

Ryoko has some good info on alchemy

http://www.silkroadforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=18488

It helped me no end, my sig has become more optimistic since reading it :D

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 2:40 pm
by vccy118
sigh, too late now, used up 12 elixirs, stuck at +1 now and broke.

I will gather more gold to get it back to +2

And on a side note... a +2 SOM lvl 16 Spear can sell how much? I hope it is enuf to cover what I lost.

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 2:42 pm
by roflcopter
i think maybe that +2 SOM u have is worth 3/3.5 mil maybe?

i bought my guild mate a 24 + 4 SOS spear, paid 4.3 mil which mite have been the top end of the price scale. But he is happy!

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 2:55 pm
by vccy118
UPDATES:
6th try:
+1
+2 (NOT GOING TO WASTE ANYMORE GOLD)

Mine also got +30% durability, 5% Attack Rating and +2 Int, so shuld sell higher is it?

I used up 13 elixirs in total, most are bought around 270K, so 3.5mil + 0.8mil (cost of the spear), is 4.3mil, I lost 0.8mil :banghead:

I guess you need to pay for every lesson that you learnt :banghead:

For those who haven't try alchemy before: Don't ever get addicted to it!

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 2:59 pm
by roflcopter
lol! u are teh determined :D

As for your SOM spear, i think u got to appreciate it is only a lvl 16 spear you have for sale and will get outgrown very rapidly in these circumstances. But then it depends if someone plans to farm on it, i would price it around 3.8 mil and then u have room to barter on the sale.

I paid big for my mates spear cos i see him using it til lvl 30, he doesnt lvl all that quick!

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 3:01 pm
by Susanoo
I do not play on Sparta, however a SoM item is worth a lot more then a SoS item. SoM weapons go for quite an amount on each server, I think on Tibot this SoM spear lvl 16 would go for 8M+

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 3:03 pm
by vccy118
LOL, i always forget some details... the cirit on the spear is 11, and I only realized it after using it for 5 lvls! :banghead:

EDIT: NVM, scrap that, i downgraded the 11 crit to 6 crit :banghead: :banghead:

The game hates me :cry:

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 3:09 pm
by roflcopter
If you really want you can milk that SOM spear for every penny you can get, but unless ur lucky to find someone crazy enough to pay and not bargain then i think it could take you a while to sell. Of course im not advising you to under sell it, i love turning a profit and making other people happy with the sale at the same time.

Now ur giving me more details perhaps bang it up in ur stall for a price you would be more then happy for it to sell for, then if ur AFK and it gets bought its all good. But people will leave offers, and thats the simple part. Maybe stall it for 4.5 mil and ask for them to buy or leave offer, ive done the same on countless occasions.

Good luck with the sale tho! Post back with what you made on it :p

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 3:28 pm
by Misaklo
i'd stall it up for 8m~ and take offers, it might just get bought out

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 3:48 pm
by vccy118
sigh, i was hoping to use the elixir money to get myself an SOS Lvl 24 spear. Guess I have no choice but to use the som spear till i can get a new spear.

To all who posted in this topic, thx for all the advices! :)

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 3:57 pm
by Susanoo
13 elixirs isn't that much. I have seen several people who have used over 30 of some kind of elixer to get their item to what they want it to have (4 on a weapon for instance). Just keep the faith in alchemy, because is the satisfaction when it finally does what you want or better that counts. (atleast when you do have the funds)

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 4:13 pm
by vccy118
I am only lvl 23, so 13 elixirs is a lot for me, lol.

Guess after i am lvl 30+, I might look back and say "luckily I learnt my lesson early".

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 6:26 pm
by Hunter_Orion
On Oasis som lvl 16 goes for around 10mill, except for bows of course. One time I had to use 6 elixirs to +2 an sos garment with lucky >.< .

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 4:59 pm
by lemontwist
Thats nothing.

I wasted 57 shield elixirs for a stupid shield and its still +0 :D

i managed to get 3 times to +4 but it wont go any higher :(

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 10:32 pm
by shoto
get used to it...wastingmoney +'ing item. I wasted 11million on weapon elixirs...in a single hour i spent 11mil and still only +3 :(