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Botters? how can u tell?

Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 11:45 pm
by Xanio
ok well i keep seeing all these videos on youtube and its a person following one around... well how do you know its a botter? And actually what is a botter? Cause i see files alot for them. but im not to sure on what they do....

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 12:39 am
by littleguy
a bot is a program that basically plays the game for you. most bots are pretty easy to distinguish from the rest, the same way a computer AI in a video game is easy to tell; it glitches, it never stops moving, it doesn't get pissed off if you steal their kills, often times it doesn't say anything, and othe little oddities here and there that you can notice if you pay enough attention. some botting programs are very simple, like script bots, but some are so advanced, it takes careful watching to spot them. the most obvious traits I know of them so far are getting stuck in walls for hours, and immediately switching targets if you start attacking their monster.

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 12:49 am
by Xanio
ok that makes sense, thx

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 2:57 am
by Ell
Yah sometimes their names are like "arfgd" or "ghsgfg", they sometimes also immediately target another mob if you start attacking their mob, and a lot of the times they dont use skills or imbues. You can also try inviting them to party and most of the bots ive come across refuse immediately after you send. But none of these signs mean 100% that the person is botting.

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 3:50 am
by Sin
A lot of bots like to heal themselves.

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 12:51 pm
by 4-n-zics
Randomly humping inanimate objects for any length of time.

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 7:58 pm
by Slic
The 3 best ways to tell:

1) Talk to them and see if they respond (spam local chat, spam whispers, etc.). Even if they dont speak English, they should eventually type something like "?" or "<weird characters>".

2) If they do not respond, they might just be too concentrated on killing mobs, although that is usually not the case... :\ See how quickly they switch targets; most bots have a noticeable delay between the time a mob dies and the time they start running towards or attacking the next mob. Players that aren't talking back to you usually are so focused on grinding that they switch to the next target almost immediately. Players that are very focused are usually are constantly spinning the camera, looking for the next mob while they are killing their current target.

3) If all else fails and you're STILL not sure, KS them and see if they start to play differently or finally tell you to f*** off.

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 6:13 am
by Ell
Sin wrote:A lot of bots like to heal themselves.

Wow i see a lot of these and i just thought they were poor people who couldnt by pots.

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 3:39 pm
by imporkchop
Sin wrote:A lot of bots like to heal themselves.


those are problem gold bots with those fjlsjefs names.

if u pay attention closely bots stall a lil between moves. dont go smooth like a real player fighting.

Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 12:50 am
by littleguy
Ell wrote:
Sin wrote:A lot of bots like to heal themselves.

Wow i see a lot of these and i just thought they were poor people who couldnt by pots.

Hey, I use self heal all the time, and I didn't start using MP pots instead of resting until around level 15. It saves a good bit of money, especially for a pure int like me who gets the bare minimum hp recovery from pots.

Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 9:46 pm
by cj11
Easiest way to see if someone is botting,when they are running somewhere,ie to their training place,they will run for about 5 seconds,then pause for a second,then continue. Im not sure why that happens,but thats how I tell.

Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 10:22 pm
by kome566
also bots sometimes log off if theyre in a situation that they cant handle, and then they log right back in afterwards

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 4:13 pm
by LinkyParky
all u guys are wrong...hahahahahaha

i play SRO, when i joined public party, i never party chat or chat back, i dont care, i just joined, if u dont like me, banish me then, i joined other party....

and the bot system are very smart now :D there is options that u can attack monster when peoples attack them, automatic GM chat, automic attack people when people tk u..so u guys are wrong, the only thing that u can figure out when some one botter yes or no, if u stock at the wall :D.
no other thing

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 5:35 pm
by XMoshe
LinkyParky wrote:all u guys are wrong...hahahahahaha

i play SRO, when i joined public party, i never party chat or chat back, i dont care, i just joined, if u dont like me, banish me then, i joined other party....

and the bot system are very smart now :D there is options that u can attack monster when peoples attack them, automatic GM chat, automic attack people when people tk u..so u guys are wrong, the only thing that u can figure out when some one botter yes or no, if u stock at the wall :D.
no other thing


I can easily tell if someone is a bot or not...its just to obivious.. :roll: ..

when I have a monkey I also nuke and before the mob dies I already have selected the next one and so on...I chat in guild and such tho unlike bots =)

Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 2:06 pm
by killer4fun
LinkyParky wrote:all u guys are wrong...hahahahahaha

i play SRO, when i joined public party, i never party chat or chat back, i dont care, i just joined, if u dont like me, banish me then, i joined other party....

and the bot system are very smart now :D there is options that u can attack monster when peoples attack them, automatic GM chat, automic attack people when people tk u..so u guys are wrong, the only thing that u can figure out when some one botter yes or no, if u stock at the wall :D.
no other thing


Well well well isnt he smart.

Let me tell you about bots, most of the above remarks of all the other forum members are correct.
But there are different botting programs one more advanced than others but you can ALWAYS TELL

First look at certain shops in the city
all botters stand in line , human players come from different angles and therefore stand on other positions.
Look at the screen shot and notice the names !
All other players you see with names like fjhek, jfgehf etc etc they are all fake and botters.

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But some players also use botters on their Character, I once caught an advanced one that even answered chats, however he always answered the same thing and thus gave him self away

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an other advanced type of botters can be recognized by their name. On oasis they all start with OA_ for instance OA_endurance
These botters, when you KS them, invite you in a party to get the 10% extra exp points.

and if I really am not sure I always do an ice attack on them, I will be 4 seconds purple but what the heck
If they do not react they must be a botter because any other player, when attacked, would either walk away or say something.
If it is a botter who attacks back I switch of autopotion and let him kill me so he becomes a murderer.

The latest bots I have seen actually are using horses !!

Further more , when you see a lot of guys just like the first screenshot, all with about the same armor and weapon fighting monsters that are 5 levels to low for them in a certain area you can also safely asume they are bots.

SO MY BIG QUESTION TO SRO IS
IF I CAN SO EASILY IDENTIFY BOTS WHY CAN'T YOU?
ALL THEY NEED TO DO IS ONCE PER DAY GO TO THE CITY, LOOK AT ALL CHARS IN LINE WRITE DOWN THE NAMES AND BAN THEM ! :x
THIS WOULD TAKE LIKE 10 MINUTES
OF COURSE THEY WOULD NOT HAVE ALL ! BUT AT LEAST 20 PER DAY PER SERVER WITH 10 MINTUES OF WORK PER SERVER

HERE JUST ANOTHER SCREENSHOT WITH SOME OTHER BOTTERS



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WELL HOPE TO HAVE BEEN OF HELP
CHEERS

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 1:24 pm
by Jabo
ya, and banning them really help, because they cant do another botter for 10 days and thathelps if all of us report like 10 of them each day

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 2:32 pm
by Sendako
killer4fun wrote:
The latest bots I have seen actually are using horses !!



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Yeah... I think they line up to summon horses to go ride away to their grinding place.... firequeen and deskmel... those are kind of good screen names to be wasted on gold bots.