Cleric or Bard?

[Castiel]

Well, i decided im going to make a wizard but im not sure which sub-build i should get?
I'm deciding between Cleric or Bard and was wondering if anyone could give me the pros and cons between the two, such as which one is more sp friendly etc?

thanks in advance ~

[vacsux]

Do you get powerleveled or will you handgrind all the way?
And do you SP farm in the beginning?

[SolidSteel]

Really depends on how you're going to play with your wizard.
If you're planning to play alot in parties take bard-sub (Would certainly do that if you have alot of euro pts in your server). You will be much wanted. Every euro party needs 2 bards and preferably 4 wizards. But you gotta invest quite alot in the bard mastery then.
If you're planning on playing solo most of the time, take cleric as sub. Will increase you're survivability as a wizard, with bless spell, recovery division, holy spell, and you can wear light armor.
You can also take bard sub if you're going to play solo. In that case I would only take moving/swing march and noise. You will level prob faster, but gonna die alot (cant handle giants of your level). This is the most sp friendliest option.

[Gladiator_RN]

Cleric --> better in PvP, jobwar, fw ect. Can be healer in partys and tanks more than bard. (heal, phy mag, bless)
Bard --> Can solo and can be usefull in party, by just giving bard buffs, Also have speed and noise (monsters avoid you)

its up to you what you like more.

[Castiel]

hmm.. which one of them would be better for surviving solo ? since bard has noise and speed , and cleric has buffs which both help

[Gladiator_RN]

hmm.. which one of them would be better for surviving solo ? since bard has noise and speed , and cleric has buffs which both help

It doesn't really mather. With Cleric you can heal and buff yourself, with bard you can cast speed and noise to survive.

For solo i would reccoment cleric though, cuz in the end, specialy on higher level they can tank way more. + its more fun

[S3by]

Cleric .

[vacsux]

I also recommend sub Cleric if you want to survive solo.
Noise doesn't help much when you meet a champion/giant, it's boring to click general mobs all the time (at least to me). Way more fun to kill a champion/giant every now and then.
The only problem is the speed, but no problem if you get to a good spot where many mobs spawn around you or if you got enough golds to buy speed drugs.

Cleric for fun and variety
Bard for hardcore grinding, means you could get only: icebolt/frozen spear/fire bolt as attacks.

Take Bard if you are concerned about gap and sp farming since Cleric needs way more SP than bard.
Otherwise Cleric since it's too much fun to play with.

[ZaKnighT]

Cleric --> better in PvP, jobwar, fw ect. Can be healer in partys and tanks more than bard. (heal, phy mag, bless)
Bard --> Can solo and can be usefull in party, by just giving bard buffs, Also have speed and noise (monsters avoid you)

its up to you what you like more.

this but i advice you go cleric

[aishsharma]

eh so many ppl biased against bard?

yes they r 2 completely different play styles:
CLERIC->has heals, buffs and the ability to wear LA to give u more defense.
BARD->has speed and noise as well as several party buffs

The only real difference is that cleric subs are slightly better at pvp, i believe that at 11D with full pimped gear wizards don't die in 1 hit so it helps a lot with the heals and stuff
bard subs on the other hand with speed, noise and teleport are more skill dependent, u really need to watch where u are and how u r in danger or not, it excels at group pvp/pve. I personally can't say much about solo pve yet but I'm guessing it'll be easier from lvl 30 when u get teleport to complete ur defensive skill set.


Basically do u wanna stand in 1 place and blast away at ppl, while healing up ur minimal hp and hoping no rogue or warrior or xxx build takes u out? or run around killing everything u can b4 u die? hardly makes a difference tbh but it depends on how u wanna play it

[vacsux]

If you want to level up quickly, take Wiz/bard.
You barely need to SP farm, since I bet you're going to 1v1 mobs in PvE.
So you only need fire and cold spirit with their attacks: Firebolt, Icebolt, Frozenspear.

You will find yourself spamming these skills all the way to lvl 110.

Remember though, you're very fragile. A champion/giant spawning close to you often means you're dead meat.

I'd take wiz/cleric, lvl him up and use him to plvl taxi or something. Because it sux anyway in PvP. And parties are barely there, it's now all about solo or plvl.
and wiz/bard for lvling to high level just for the sake of being high lvl, without PvP.