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[New] Avatar options. [S/S Nuker, which should I get? ]
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 7:36 pm
by IJves
I'm about to become a S/S nuker (full int) and I'm curious about which are the best options I could grant my Suit(White Arabian[M]) with.
Dress [4 options]
Str 1 Increase
Str 1 Increase
Str 1 Increase
Str 1 Increase
Int 1 Increase
Int 1 Increase
Int 1 Increase
Int 1 Increase
Lucky 1% Increase
Lucky 1% Increase
Lucky 1% Increase
Lucky 1% Increase
Ignore Monster Defense 1% Probability
Ignore Monster Defense 1% Probability
Ignore Monster Defense 1% Probability
Ignore Monster Defense 1% Probability
HP 150 Increase
HP Recovery 25% Increase
Attack rating 5% Increase
Damage 5% Increase
Hat [2 options]
Str 1 Increase
Int 1 Increase
Parry ratio 5% Increase
MP 150 Increase
Damage Absorption 5% Increase
MP Recovery 25% Increase
Attachment [1 option]
Attack Rating 5% Increase
HP Recovery 25% Increase
Can you ppl plz help me out with this one?
Thanks!
My Thoughts:
Dress [4 options]
Str 1 Increase
Str 1 Increase
Str 1 Increase
Str 1 Increase
Int 1 Increase
Int 1 Increase
Int 1 Increase
Int 1 Increase
Lucky 1% Increase
Lucky 1% Increase
Lucky 1% Increase
Lucky 1% Increase
Ignore Monster Defense 1% Probability
Ignore Monster Defense 1% Probability
Ignore Monster Defense 1% Probability
Ignore Monster Defense 1% Probability
HP 150 Increase
HP Recovery 25% Increase
Attack rating 5% Increase
Damage 5% Increase
Hat [2 options]
Str 1 Increase
Int 1 Increase
Parry ratio 5% Increase
MP 150 Increase
Damage Absorption 5% Increase
MP Recovery 25% Increase
Attachment [1 option]
Attack Rating 5% Increase
HP Recovery 25% Increase
I have no idea about the 2 other options @ dress & the second option @ the hat.
Re: [New] Avatar options. [S/S Nuker, which should I get? ]
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 7:41 pm
by TheKnight
IJves wrote:I'm about to become a S/S nuker (full int) and I'm curious about which are the best options I could grant my Suit(White Arabian[M]) with.
Dress [4 options]
Str 1 Increase
Str 1 Increase
Str 1 Increase
Str 1 Increase
Int 1 Increase
Int 1 Increase
Int 1 Increase
Int 1 Increase
Lucky 1% Increase
Lucky 1% Increase
Lucky 1% Increase
Lucky 1% Increase
Ignore Monster Defense 1% Probability
Ignore Monster Defense 1% Probability
Ignore Monster Defense 1% Probability
Ignore Monster Defense 1% Probability
HP 150 Increase
HP Recovery 25% Increase
Attack rating 5% Increase
Damage 5% Increase
Hat [2 options]
Str 1 Increase
Int 1 Increase
Parry ratio 5% Increase
MP 150 Increase
Damage Absorption 5% Increase
MP Recovery 25% Increase
Attachment [1 option]
Attack Rating 5% Increase
HP Recovery 25% Increase
Re: [New] Avatar options. [S/S Nuker, which should I get? ]
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 7:54 pm
by IJves
TheKnight wrote:IJves wrote:I'm about to become a S/S nuker (full int) and I'm curious about which are the best options I could grant my Suit(White Arabian[M]) with.
Dress [4 options]
Str 1 Increase
Str 1 Increase
Str 1 Increase
Str 1 Increase
Int 1 Increase
Int 1 Increase
Int 1 Increase
Int 1 Increase
Lucky 1% Increase
Lucky 1% Increase
Lucky 1% Increase
Lucky 1% Increase
Ignore Monster Defense 1% Probability
Ignore Monster Defense 1% Probability
Ignore Monster Defense 1% Probability
Ignore Monster Defense 1% Probability
HP 150 Increase
HP Recovery 25% Increase
Attack rating 5% Increase
Damage 5% Increase
Hat [2 options]
Str 1 Increase
Int 1 Increase
Parry ratio 5% Increase
MP 150 Increase
Damage Absorption 5% Increase
MP Recovery 25% Increase
Attachment [1 option]
Attack Rating 5% Increase
HP Recovery 25% Increase
For the luck thing... shouldn't you get a 'special' suit... like for enchanting only.
... the luck thing is for enchanting only, right?
Re: [New] Avatar options. [S/S Nuker, which should I get? ]
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 8:24 pm
by TheKnight
For the luck thing... shouldn't you get a 'special' suit... like for enchanting only.
... the luck thing is for enchanting only, right?
I think it is for Magic PoP too...
Re: [New] Avatar options. [S/S Nuker, which should I get? ]
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 11:55 pm
by Nick Invaders
Dress [4 options]
Str 1 Increase
Str 1 Increase
Str 1 Increase
Str 1 Increase
Int 1 Increase
Int 1 Increase
Int 1 Increase
Int 1 Increase
Lucky 1% Increase
Lucky 1% Increase
Lucky 1% Increase
Lucky 1% Increase
Ignore Monster Defense 1% Probability
Ignore Monster Defense 1% Probability
Ignore Monster Defense 1% Probability
Ignore Monster Defense 1% Probability
HP 150 Increase
HP Recovery 25% Increase
Attack rating 5% Increase
Damage 5% Increase
Hat [2 options]
Str 1 Increase
Int 1 Increase
Parry ratio 5% Increase
MP 150 Increase
Damage Absorption 5% Increase
MP Recovery 25% Increase
Attachment [1 option]
Attack Rating 5% Increase
HP Recovery 25% Increase
The HP/MP recovery actually heals you more. I found that out the hard way. I had 2 sets of the witch suit. One had hp/MP recovery the other didn't. I died more often and used more mp pots with the second one on than with the first one.
I'd say it would be better to replace the 150 hp with a str or int.
Re: [New] Avatar options. [S/S Nuker, which should I get? ]
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 7:48 am
by IJves
Nick Invaders wrote:Dress [4 options]
Str 1 Increase
Str 1 Increase
Str 1 Increase
Str 1 Increase
Int 1 Increase
Int 1 Increase
Int 1 Increase
Int 1 Increase
Lucky 1% Increase
Lucky 1% Increase
Lucky 1% Increase
Lucky 1% Increase
Ignore Monster Defense 1% Probability
Ignore Monster Defense 1% Probability
Ignore Monster Defense 1% Probability
Ignore Monster Defense 1% Probability
HP 150 Increase
HP Recovery 25% Increase
Attack rating 5% Increase
Damage 5% Increase
Hat [2 options]
Str 1 Increase
Int 1 Increase
Parry ratio 5% Increase
MP 150 Increase
Damage Absorption 5% Increase
MP Recovery 25% Increase
Attachment [1 option]
Attack Rating 5% Increase
HP Recovery 25% Increase
The HP/MP recovery actually heals you more. I found that out the hard way. I had 2 sets of the witch suit. One had hp/MP recovery the other didn't. I died more often and used more mp pots with the second one on than with the first one.
I'd say it would be better to replace the 150 hp with a str or int.
Thx for the reply.
What does 'damage absorption' actually do?
I somewhere read it was to decrease the speed of durability loss?
Is this true?
If so, isn't parry ratio 5% increase more useful?
& I'm not sure about the 25% recovery @ the attachment yet...
5% Attack Rating is pretty useful too you know =p
If it really works while fighting I do think it's a good option @ the dress.
Though I'm still not sure if it really works while standing.
Some ppl say it does... others say it doesn't.
More replies plz.
Kind regards, IJves.
Re: [New] Avatar options. [S/S Nuker, which should I get? ]
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 3:57 am
by Nick Invaders
Dmg absorption absorbs the % of dmg you take. Let's say you take 100 dmg with 5% dmg absorb. You only take 95 dmg. There is also dmg absorb on your accessories. I'm not sure what would be more useful at high levels.
The dmg absorb with your accessories is like this:
Necklace: 10 dmg absorb (absorb 10% of the dmg)
earrings: 8 dmg absorb (absorb 8% of the remaining dmg)
ring1: 5 dmg absorb (absorb 5% or remaining dmg)
5% dmg absorb on avatar: etc.
ring2: 4.7 dmg absorb (etc.)
I am unsure about the order it goes in but I think it starts at the highest absorb and goes in descending order.
5% parry I think might be better for higher levels but since I have no experience past lv 64 I can't give you a good answer.
The one on the attachment is more of a: more survivability or more dmg.
You can go whichever you want.
I'm not an expert on the avatar stats so I'm answering to the best of my ability.
Re: [New] Avatar options. [S/S Nuker, which should I get? ]
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:03 am
by pizzagirl2008
Nick Invaders wrote:The HP/MP recovery actually heals you more. I found that out the hard way. I had 2 sets of the witch suit. One had hp/MP recovery the other didn't. I died more often and used more mp pots with the second one on than with the first one. I'd say it would be better to replace the 150 hp with a str or int.
Are you sure HP/MP actually heals more often? ie. the HP pots would heal 25% more than what it normally does? eg. XL pot = 1000 HP, so with avatar option it gives 1250 HP instead?
Can someone test this out and post the numbers here pls?
Re: [New] Avatar options. [S/S Nuker, which should I get? ]
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 2:24 pm
by Nick Invaders
pizzagirl2008 wrote:Nick Invaders wrote:The HP/MP recovery actually heals you more. I found that out the hard way. I had 2 sets of the witch suit. One had hp/MP recovery the other didn't. I died more often and used more mp pots with the second one on than with the first one. I'd say it would be better to replace the 150 hp with a str or int.
Are you sure HP/MP actually heals more often? ie. the HP pots would heal 25% more than what it normally does? eg. XL pot = 1000 HP, so with avatar option it gives 1250 HP instead?
Can someone test this out and post the numbers here pls?
It would heal 25% more hp/mp.
afaik it's true.
I haven't been on since May but I remember testing with and without the hp/mp recovery increase.
I will be gone for the next few days so I won't be able to help.
Re: [New] Avatar options. [S/S Nuker, which should I get? ]
Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 8:12 am
by IJves
I did the test with a 500 % HP Recovery Increase.
I did it with a level 21 full str european char and this are the results:
With Scroll:
Standing still:
358 -> 429
827-> 898
EFFECT:+71
Sitting:
291->1003
146 ->858
EFFECT:+712
Hp Pots:
139 -> 890
254 ->1005
EFFECT: +751
Without Scroll:
Standing still:
1050-> 1061
331 -> 342
EFFECT: +11
Sitting:
408-> 526
762->880
EFFECT: +118
Hp Pots:
324->1015
221 ->912
EFFECT: +691
% Differences With & Without
Standing still:
11->71
EFFECT: +545%
Sitting:
118->712
EFFECT: +503%
Hp Pots:
691 -> 751
EFFECT: +8.6%
NOTICE!
-The Recovery ONLY happens when standing still. Not when attacking/moving.
-The Effect @ Pots can be NULLIFIED because I used them while standing still so the extra recovery came from standing still.
CONCLUSION:
The 25% will only have effect while sitting & standing STILL. [=not while attacking & running]
It won't have any effect on potions.
... is it still such an awesome option @ the avatar now? =P
Re: [New] Avatar options. [S/S Nuker, which should I get? ]
Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 9:27 am
by Nitro
You should definetally get Ignore Monster Defense 1% Probability, its fun to see it from time to time.
Re: [New] Avatar options. [S/S Nuker, which should I get? ]
Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 7:38 pm
by IJves
Nitro wrote:You should definetally get Ignore Monster Defense 1% Probability, its fun to see it from time to time.
Hmmm... I think it's better to get a special dress for that one to use against uniques.
Re: [New] Avatar options. [S/S Nuker, which should I get? ]
Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 7:40 pm
by VeniVidiVici
Nick Invaders wrote:Dmg absorption absorbs the % of dmg you take. Let's say you take 100 dmg with 5% dmg absorb. You only take 95 dmg. There is also dmg absorb on your accessories. I'm not sure what would be more useful at high levels.
The dmg absorb with your accessories is like this:
Necklace: 10 dmg absorb (absorb 10% of the dmg)
earrings: 8 dmg absorb (absorb 8% of the remaining dmg)
ring1: 5 dmg absorb (absorb 5% or remaining dmg)
5% dmg absorb on avatar: etc.
ring2: 4.7 dmg absorb (etc.)
I am unsure about the order it goes in but I think it starts at the highest absorb and goes in descending order.
5% parry I think might be better for higher levels but since I have no experience past lv 64 I can't give you a good answer.
The one on the attachment is more of a: more survivability or more dmg.
You can go whichever you want.
I'm not an expert on the avatar stats so I'm answering to the best of my ability.
The order doesn't matter as the absorbtion goes in factors. like 1.1 etc. and (example) 10*5*3 is the same as 3*5*10 and is the same as 5*3*10