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Why do nukers go hybrid builds?
Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 10:38 pm
by patrone
If your supposed to be a nuker why do people go hybrid?
Is it because when using knock down and stab skills the STR makes them stronger?
Or they just add the STR to help them survive longer in pvp?
Wouldn't going pure int make your nukes stronger?
Planning to make a nuker could someone answer these questions for me.
Thank you
Re: Why do nukers go hybrid builds?
Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 11:46 pm
by jeansl10
patrone wrote:If your supposed to be a nuker why do people go hybrid?
Is it because when using knock down and stab skills the STR makes them stronger?
Or they just add the STR to help them survive longer in pvp?Wouldn't going pure int make your nukes stronger?
Planning to make a nuker could someone answer these questions for me.
Thank you
Re: Why do nukers go hybrid builds?
Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 12:05 am
by patrone
So its just for a little extra hp seems like a waste to me
Re: Why do nukers go hybrid builds?
Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 6:21 am
by Breed
It ISNT a waste of time.
As in, if you are an all int, you pretty much CANT wear protector. Because you need ALLL the phys protection you can get.
Hybrids can gear up in protector and there arent really any OTHER builds that can EASILY beat a hybrid apart from another hybrid.
They're lovely builds but if you're going to try I advise a 7:1
It gives very high damage but it's a good 1 and a half k more health.
It's all about trying stuff I guess.
Look at the hybrid guides.
love
Re: Why do nukers go hybrid builds?
Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 6:24 am
by Sacchin
I have a lvl 80 FULL int only spear nuker on Xian. She's a monster with dealing dmg but oh god does she die so easily lol
I still love her to bits.
Re: Why do nukers go hybrid builds?
Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 7:37 am
by Bg_DrEaM
Well some people (like me
) go hybrid because... they didn't know what to do in the beggining
But now, as a lvl 90 hybrid, i can say i love it.
I love the extra deff it gives me, i am in garments ATM because i fight in rock, all the way i was wearing prot and i have never had problems.
I am used to grind always on red or at least orange mobs. Doens't metter party or not.
My BF has a pure STR archer... and he wears better set than me atm.
I can tell you i don;t die at 82-83 when we make taxies. Never. But he does from time to time.
Also, I can tank Shaitan. Without party. without dieing. And he can't.
So.... those are my reasons why i love my hybrid
Not really the reasons why i started it, but it turned out a pretty good and fun build to play and I like ot better than all other chinese builds.
Re: Why do nukers go hybrid builds?
Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 2:55 pm
by DumboDii
Bg_DrEaM wrote:Well some people (like me
) go hybrid because... they didn't know what to do in the beggining
But now, as a lvl 90 hybrid, i can say i love it.
I love the extra deff it gives me, i am in garments ATM because i fight in rock, all the way i was wearing prot and i have never had problems.
I am used to grind always on red or at least orange mobs. Doens't metter party or not.
My BF has a pure STR archer... and he wears better set than me atm.
I can tell you i don;t die at 82-83 when we make taxies. Never. But he does from time to time.
Also, I can tank Shaitan. Without party. without dieing. And he can't.
So.... those are my reasons why i love my hybrid
Not really the reasons why i started it, but it turned out a pretty good and fun build to play and I like ot better than all other chinese builds.
If you are a hybrid int and you are better tanker than you full str bf I have to say that he sucks big time.
Re: Why do nukers go hybrid builds?
Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 2:59 pm
by Bg_DrEaM
Not so, but i have 2 big advatages - show shield and shield 18 br....
Bowers are not made for tankers anyways....
Re: Why do nukers go hybrid builds?
Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 3:21 pm
by DumboDii
Still they are not supposed to die that easily.
Re: Why do nukers go hybrid builds?
Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 3:52 pm
by DA_CAT
hybrids are unique...im a str hybrid...but didnt follow any style...i just added wateva i liked coz this is my first character...but i mean...its not bad...i like it...^^
Re: Why do nukers go hybrid builds?
Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 8:45 pm
by Bg_DrEaM
DumboDii wrote:Bg_DrEaM wrote:Well some people (like me
) go hybrid because... they didn't know what to do in the beggining
But now, as a lvl 90 hybrid, i can say i love it.
I love the extra deff it gives me, i am in garments ATM because i fight in rock, all the way i was wearing prot and i have never had problems.
I am used to grind always on red or at least orange mobs. Doens't metter party or not.
My BF has a pure STR archer... and he wears better set than me atm.
I can tell you i don;t die at 82-83 when we make taxies. Never. But he does
from time to time.Also, I can tank Shaitan. Without party. without dieing. And he can't.
So.... those are my reasons why i love my hybrid
Not really the reasons why i started it, but it turned out a pretty good and fun build to play and I like ot better than all other chinese builds.
If you are a hybrid int and you are better tanker than you full str bf I have to say that he sucks big time.
I never said he dies all the time, i said he dies from time to time. At this situations that i wrote.
Re: Why do nukers go hybrid builds?
Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 11:05 pm
by egyptology2
Hybrids ARE good builds...just very VERY expensive to play.
One of my buddies (
http://www.rev6.com/player.asp?id=665605) has a REALLY good character....it's a half half hybrid. I made fun of it...a lot...simply because a half-half suxors...
BUT, then I really observed him PVPing...since he's full sun (accessories, garments, and sosun+7 spear), he always won, regardless of the other person's build. His criticals hurt a lot and he had nukes...He was damaging like a pure int but...had 18Khp 22KMP (or something close to that).
This was at 80 cap...now his build....kinda suxors since he doesn't have that great of gear.
But, point is, if you have the money, hybrids are great. You just need to get gear to make up for the damage you lost. I'm perpetually poor, so I am pure int (I just need my npc + 3 sword.
)
Re: Why do nukers go hybrid builds?
Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 2:47 am
by patrone
Could you explain what 7:1 build means? also what other hybrid builds can i go.
PvP and jobbing wise would hybrid nuker do better then full int nuker?
Re: Why do nukers go hybrid builds?
Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 3:51 am
by The Furious Ninja
patrone wrote:Could you explain what 7:1 build means? also what other hybrid builds can i go.
PvP and jobbing wise would hybrid nuker do better then full int nuker?
7:1 int means every 7 points of int you add you also add in 1 str
Re: Why do nukers go hybrid builds?
Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 6:22 am
by patrone
Would a 8:1 be good also?
Re: Why do nukers go hybrid builds?
Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 6:52 am
by The Furious Ninja
patrone wrote:Would a 8:1 be good also?
never played a chinese that high so not sure
off topic: tried patrone this weekend was semi disapointed, but hey i wasn't the one who bought it so its all good
Re: Why do nukers go hybrid builds?
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 12:07 am
by patrone
does 12:1 hybrid int means every 12 int points you add 1 str?
Re: Why do nukers go hybrid builds?
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 3:24 am
by raphaell666
patrone wrote:does 12:1 hybrid int means every 12 int points you add 1 str?
Yeah.
Re: Why do nukers go hybrid builds?
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 10:11 am
by Bobby
patrone wrote:Would a 8:1 be good also?
At this cap, 8:1 means 10 lvls of str so it's pretty similiar to a 7:1 at 80cap.
Re: Why do nukers go hybrid builds?
Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 6:46 pm
by Glavie's Girl
Please dont forget that adding str not only adds hp, but adds to your phy def as well.
Re: Why do nukers go hybrid builds?
Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 6:41 am
by patrone
New question Spear or Sword/Shield?
Spear really good dmg sword/shield good def and decent dmg, but from the videos i saw on youtube all hybrids go spear and they do pretty good. Also shield has that def buff thats really useful for ints but im not sure. Hope you guys can point out some good points on both things.
thanks
Re: Why do nukers go hybrid builds?
Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 9:16 am
by Bobby
s/s hybrids are good with good gear, tho i prefer spear. A lvl87 1:4 hybrid s/s i know hits about 8-9k with a nuke on a lvl90 full str glaive. Or something like tht. I can't remember lol
Re: Why do nukers go hybrid builds?
Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 11:46 pm
by patrone
Whats a good balance of mag and phys % for a hybrid?
Is 1:4 or 1:5 better then 8:1?
Re: Why do nukers go hybrid builds?
Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 1:31 pm
by Bobby
patrone wrote:Whats a good balance of mag and phys % for a hybrid?
Is 1:4 or 1:5 better then 8:1?
i reckon a 1:4/1:5 is better than a 1:8. But it's ur choice between more defence or more damage.
Re: Why do nukers go hybrid builds?
Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 6:29 pm
by XMoshe
Sacchin wrote:I have a lvl 80 FULL int only spear nuker on Xian. She's a monster with dealing dmg but oh god does she die so easily lol
I still love her tits.
Yeah I'm bored x.XHybrid ftw
Re: Why do nukers go hybrid builds?
Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 7:55 am
by Eraser_Rain
Official Chinese Build (All the way to lvl 150):
Pure Int:
Bicheon/Cold
Heuksal/Cold
Lightning/Cold
Force/Cold
Fire/Cold
Pure Str:
Heuksal/Fire
Bicheon/Fire
Pacheon/Fire
Source:
CSRO