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Dilema

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 5:14 am
by garner
Hi all.

I'd like to make a chinese pure int char and i can't decide wich masteries to pick.
I'd go with 90 light fire 30 ice for sure (max dmg). (group pvp, not solo)
But here is where i can't decide: go for heuksal or pacheon. I'm not planning to get any nukes only weapon skills.

I know that heuksal have the extra hp from pasive dull stun and kb, and bow crit increase, stun, kb, ar increase, burn, darkness(in the future)...
I am aware of weapon dmg diference and reinforce ratio on both weapons.

Will a pacheon build have more DPS than a heuksal build? Or the heuksal dmg will make the difference leaving pacheon behind?
I only played a force nuker without weapon masteries so i don't know exactly how weapon skills will be when skills are capped.

Don't tell me any builld will be epic fail cause i don't really care.. I like both of them so I won't change my mind. :)

P.S. 1 more q...
Armor reinforces contributes to weapon reinforce -> dmg calculation? or it's a different reinforce for defense calculation?

Any suggestion is welcome.

Re: Dilema

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 5:45 am
by Tasdik
First off. A pure int without nukes is a terrible idea. Rethink that.

Re: Dilema

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:04 pm
by XMoshe
Tasdik wrote:First off. A pure int without nukes is a terrible idea. Rethink that.


Lol yeah, I went WTF? on that. The point of a pure int char is to do max dmg with nukes. If you want to use only weapon skills, go pure str.

Re: Dilema

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:38 pm
by Devilman
sorry but a int without nukes WILL BE A FAIL!!!! And imo bow nuker sucks too so i would pick either s/s or spear..... if you really don't like nukes be full str glavie or bow

Re: Dilema

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:49 pm
by Fauntleroy
Tasdik wrote:First off. A pure int without nukes is a terrible idea. Rethink that.

Right. And Bow nuker isnt worth of wasting your time.

Re: Dilema

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:56 pm
by garner
I don't really like the ideea of farming 3 fire nukes each with 18 lvls. And like i said in first post... i had a pure force nuker ice light fire.. no weapon skills only nuke nuke nuke.. tired of casting them lol.
Pure int's bow skills deal same dmg as a nuke, pro: faster cast time. And there is a small crit increase dmg. Plus nukes have no addidional status like stun or kb...

I only asked which weapon skills will have a higher DPS with light and fire masteries. And i'm not gonna do 1vs1 pvps(also said that before)

Re: Dilema

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 4:54 pm
by Devilman
then make a pure str or hybrid bow duh....

Re: Dilema

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 6:08 pm
by PocketSunshine
garner wrote:Hi all.

I'd like to make a chinese pure int char and i can't decide wich masteries to pick.
I'd go with 90 light fire 30 ice for sure (max dmg). (group pvp, not solo)
But here is where i can't decide: go for heuksal or pacheon. I'm not planning to get any nukes only weapon skills.

I know that heuksal have the extra hp from pasive dull stun and kb, and bow crit increase, stun, kb, ar increase, burn, darkness(in the future)...
I am aware of weapon dmg diference and reinforce ratio on both weapons.

Will a pacheon build have more DPS than a heuksal build? Or the heuksal dmg will make the difference leaving pacheon behind?
I only played a force nuker without weapon masteries so i don't know exactly how weapon skills will be when skills are capped.

Don't tell me any builld will be epic fail cause i don't really care.. I like both of them so I won't change my mind. :)

P.S. 1 more q...
Armor reinforces contributes to weapon reinforce -> dmg calculation? or it's a different reinforce for defense calculation?

Any suggestion is welcome.



I'm sorry, but that's a horrible idea. You want a pure int with no nukes? If you don't want nukes, then go with a pure str char or hybrid, but not pure int. A hybrid bow is a great build because it does really nice damage and has great range. I'm not an expert on Chinese so I can't tell you much except from what I learned from friends.

Re: Dilema

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 7:53 pm
by garner
Just need to clear this: spear or bow for a higher DPS (damage per sec if any1 don't know)
Hybrid's dmg compared to a pure int = way lower, no thx.

Re: Dilema

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 1:33 pm
by Devilman
garner wrote:Just need to clear this: spear or bow for a higher DPS (damage per sec if any1 don't know)
Hybrid's dmg compared to a pure int = way lower, no thx.

A hybrid has lower magical damage but HIGHER physical damage... don't know about the DPS but I really never cared... SPEAR is better

Re: Dilema

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 2:45 pm
by garner
Devilman wrote:
garner wrote:Just need to clear this: spear or bow for a higher DPS (damage per sec if any1 don't know)
Hybrid's dmg compared to a pure int = way lower, no thx.

A hybrid has lower magical damage but HIGHER physical damage... don't know about the DPS but I really never cared... SPEAR is better


I know that.
But.. I tried to make a hybrid spear once (got to 57 or so) and saw the dmg difference between me and a pure int. I didn't liked what I saw. So that's why i wanna make it pure int.

I made this post only to find out if a bower have or not a higher DPS than a spearman. Not to ask what build should i play.
Thx for your answers so far...