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Alchemy Tactics

Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 12:19 pm
by Annihilate
Is it true that if you try to pimp your items in the night,or when the server isnt crowded or after inspection u have more chances to incrase something?

cause i've wasted like 40+ challenge stones on my blade,and its still crit 1...it doesnt pass Crit 4...
should i try in the night? or after inspection?...

and tell me ur tactics guys,cause i have to pimp a set for when i'll be 85++ and i dont have so much gold tbh...around 60mill so i cant buy so many elements\tabs...
and its possible to FB a set with 60-70mill?


thx Annih.

Re: Alchemy Tactics

Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 12:21 pm
by RUMS
I personally dont think it actually affect the thing. Its all about luck , just like getting SoX items. Some people get 2 or 3 in a day while some never gotten any.

Also, as im new to the game , i dont really get what Full Blue means and what does the maximum number of magic option means too..

Re: Alchemy Tactics

Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 12:24 pm
by Annihilate
RUMS wrote:I personally dont think it actually affect the thing. Its all about luck , just like getting SoX items. Some people get 2 or 3 in a day while some never gotten any.

Also, as im new to the game , i dont really get what Full Blue means and what does the maximum number of magic option means too..

t_t

Full blue mean that the item has a lot of blues and that they are good blues like str 5\6 or hp 500\600:)

magic option thing...is 9
and it mean that the item can have 9 blue stats on it.



EDIT: does anyone know the name of the tablet that modify phy reinforce?

Re: Alchemy Tactics

Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 12:29 pm
by _Creep_
Annihilate wrote:EDIT: does anyone know the name of the tablet that modify phy reinforce?

Ruby tablet of warriors

Re: Alchemy Tactics

Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 12:30 pm
by LillDev!l
Meh, no tactics for it, just get loads of stones and click away.
just a second ago i wasted 20 stamina stones to get my hp down from 150>30, and assimilated my parry from 43 > 26 xD.
now ill have to get loads more stamina till i have hp 600, AND dodging stones :roll:

owell, alchemy's a bitch xD

Re: Alchemy Tactics

Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 12:35 pm
by Crumpets
It's all luck.

Anyone who claims to have a lucky spot or ritual while plussing is deceiving themselves. There is nothing you can do ( except for Premium / Premium Plus ) to increase your chances of succeeding / getting a good % / +.

The accounts that seem lucky making +7/8/9 are usually the accounts that TRY the most. There's always people whining that they can't +7 cause it's failed X amount of times. Well, the guy who made X amount of 7's just got lucky and probably tried before a lot.

For me, blues always go on easy cause I spam stones and can easy make 100% blues. Whites the same .. I don't leave town till I the item in question has it's whites 60%+. But plussing an item is different. I always whined at people who seemingly made +7's every god damn time. But then I had a go .. and made back to back a shield / glaive and earring +7.


I guess the saying of the day is: He who dares wins.

Re: Alchemy Tactics

Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 12:40 pm
by LillDev!l
Crumpets wrote:I guess the saying of the day is: He who dares wins.


or loses it all :P

Re: Alchemy Tactics

Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 12:55 pm
by MissLe2
ok lets get the terminology right
when you say full blues the item should have all blues available for it, at the full highest lvl for that blue

but now most say full blue, to get someone to look at your item
and it has many blues, (but not all), and blues with bad stats(bad stats on a blue is not a bad thing, some blue is better than none)

as far as pimping out a full set at your price range, its all up to your luck in pimping out each item
8) 8)

Re: Alchemy Tactics

Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 1:01 pm
by balooo
i have a trick to do +7 stuff...
i've got my 21th sword to +6. yet all 21 failed +7 (yes lvl 85 chinese sword)
i've got 5 +6 spears (85). 2 of them got +8 and failed +9.
my last 2 shields 85+5 got +7 with 2 elixirs.
i forgot to count +5 to +6 fails.

it's all about a ritual and a lucky spot.. (yeah right :banghead: )

with 60m gold u can get anything u want.. even +13... only if u are lucky

Re: Alchemy Tactics

Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 1:49 pm
by LillDev!l
balooo wrote:i have a trick to do +7 stuff...
i've got my 21th sword to +6. yet all 21 failed +7 (yes lvl 85 chinese sword)
i've got 5 +6 spears (85). 2 of them got +8 and failed +9.
my last 2 shields 85+5 got +7 with 2 elixirs.
i forgot to count +5 to +6 fails.

it's all about a ritual and a lucky spot.. (yeah right :banghead: )

with 60m gold u can get anything u want.. even +13... only if u are lucky


hehe, if only 60m could get me a +7 <3 :P (or a +5)

Re: Alchemy Tactics

Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 2:28 pm
by Nixie
Crumpets wrote:It's all luck.

Anyone who claims to have a lucky spot or ritual while plussing is deceiving themselves. There is nothing you can do ( except for Premium / Premium Plus ) to increase your chances of succeeding / getting a good % / +.

The accounts that seem lucky making +7/8/9 are usually the accounts that TRY the most. There's always people whining that they can't +7 cause it's failed X amount of times. Well, the guy who made X amount of 7's just got lucky and probably tried before a lot.

For me, blues always go on easy cause I spam stones and can easy make 100% blues. Whites the same .. I don't leave town till I the item in question has it's whites 60%+. But plussing an item is different. I always whined at people who seemingly made +7's every god damn time. But then I had a go .. and made back to back a shield / glaive and earring +7.


I guess the saying of the day is: He who dares wins.

There is nothing like luck. Not in Silkroad. And not in any other application. All the 'random' numbers are generated by a seed, which is usually the time. Different time, different numbers. With an algorithm you could predict what value will be next.

Re: Alchemy Tactics

Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 3:39 pm
by NuclearSilo
I only admire whoever made a +7 ~ +9 items with only 7-9 elixirs, without immortal and lucky. That's the true tactic of enchanting.

Re: Alchemy Tactics

Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 4:04 pm
by the_wicked
i find +ing with a populated server is easier, less lag.

stones dont matter to me.

Re: Alchemy Tactics

Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 4:46 pm
by Detective
Take it as If there's tactic or easy way out.... +7 will be worth nothing =p

Re: Alchemy Tactics

Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 5:04 pm
by Razorhead
the_wicked wrote:i find +ing with a populated server is easier, less lag.

stones dont matter to me.

Same for me ^^

Also: the lucky/ritual spots = spots where there are (almost) never other players -> reducing lag from other players who are running around ;)

Re: Alchemy Tactics

Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 5:08 pm
by _Scarlett_
LillDev!l wrote:Meh, no tactics for it, just get loads of stones and click away.
just a second ago i wasted 20 stamina stones to get my hp down from 150>30, and assimilated my parry from 43 > 26 xD.
now ill have to get loads more stamina till i have hp 600, AND dodging stones :roll:

owell, alchemy's a bitch xD


Yarr

Alchemy's sometimes, and I say rarely, a goddess; the other times she's a one-legged pirate wench who plunders your gold, and pillages your stats.

Re: Alchemy Tactics

Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 6:15 pm
by GimmeMo
My tactic is buying as much stones as i can than use them. :D
Dunno about the night thingy, but the first weapon i made +7 was at night, and another +6 at morning.

Re: Alchemy Tactics

Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 6:24 pm
by Mousetrap
put thing in
press fuse
rinse and repeat until desired result

i dont think you'll be able to FB your gear for 70m, unless you have a lot of elements and tabs.
maybe buy cheap sell high..? pimp some drops or cheap stuff and stall for a while, once you have enough gold go for fb

Re: Alchemy Tactics

Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 7:37 pm
by MajesticTurk
i dont think thats true, the servers were crowded at the afternoon and i made my spear +5 on the first try

Re: Alchemy Tactics

Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 8:56 pm
by foudre
my best alchemy happens in the middle of crowded areas, stones are usually lucky for me, but damn i can't even make a single plus 5 for myself, only plus 5 item i ever made was for a freind he gave it to me so i could use my premium to improve odds. I've tried the whole lucky spot thing, i do have a spot i go to in dw but i always stop at plus 3 there (why waste the money on low level gear that'll take a week to sell anyways)

Re: Alchemy Tactics

Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 10:17 pm
by Annihilate
Mousetrap wrote:put thing in
press fuse
rinse and repeat until desired result

i dont think you'll be able to FB your gear for 70m, unless you have a lot of elements and tabs.
maybe buy cheap sell high..? pimp some drops or cheap stuff and stall for a while, once you have enough gold go for fb

dont have so many element...around 2000 every piece i'd say,from lv 1 to9 ..

Re: Alchemy Tactics

Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 12:14 am
by the_wicked
yeah alch sux, cost me a shitload of gold to +5 my friends harp today lol

Re: Alchemy Tactics

Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 12:27 am
by Elikapeka
_Scarlett_ wrote:
LillDev!l wrote:Meh, no tactics for it, just get loads of stones and click away.
just a second ago i wasted 20 stamina stones to get my hp down from 150>30, and assimilated my parry from 43 > 26 xD.
now ill have to get loads more stamina till i have hp 600, AND dodging stones :roll:

owell, alchemy's a bitch xD


Yarr

Alchemy's sometimes, and I say rarely, a goddess; the other times she's a one-legged pirate wench who plunders your gold, and pillages your stats.

Stop talking about me on the forums.

Re: Alchemy Tactics

Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 7:44 am
by LillDev!l
_Scarlett_ wrote:
LillDev!l wrote:Meh, no tactics for it, just get loads of stones and click away.
just a second ago i wasted 20 stamina stones to get my hp down from 150>30, and assimilated my parry from 43 > 26 xD.
now ill have to get loads more stamina till i have hp 600, AND dodging stones :roll:

owell, alchemy's a bitch xD


Yarr

Alchemy's sometimes, and I say rarely, a goddess; the other times she's a one-legged pirate wench who plunders your gold, and pillages your stats.


Arrrrr, alchemy :wink: