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Found this on the official sro website (about bot bans)

Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 10:48 am
by Gimpdog
Q . Why are you not catching and blocking hundreds and hundreds of bots?

A. The process involved in the investigation and confirmation of the bots has required time and other constraints which have limited the number of bots caught. However, the process is being refined rapidly and we will be able to catch more at a quicker pace.

Those who are botting who believe that they will not get caught will regret that belief. It does not matter if you are high level or low level, in a guild or not, famous or not, what time you are on, what nationality you are, what server you are on, where in the map you are, and whether you have bought silk or not. If you bot, we will block.

I wish they would keep to their word
From reading the old news it seems they actually used to care lol. Wish i was around in those days

link: http://silkroadonline.net/sro_board/fmboard/fm_board.asp?bID=SB_Inform&sID=1&Num=1&Page=63

Re: Found this on the official sro website (about bot bans)

Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 10:55 am
by Crowley
You're from New Zealand :?
Me too!

Re: Found this on the official sro website (about bot bans)

Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 10:58 am
by Gimpdog
Tsume wrote:You're from New Zealand :?
Me too!

WOW awsome. I have met quite a few people from New Zealand in Tibet.
What part are you from?

Re: Found this on the official sro website (about bot bans)

Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 11:03 am
by Crowley
Henderson, Auckland.
You?

Re: Found this on the official sro website (about bot bans)

Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 11:05 am
by Gimpdog
Tsume wrote:Henderson, Auckland.
You?

I just pm'ed you rather than spam the forums.

Re: Found this on the official sro website (about bot bans)

Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 11:30 am
by xxbrentonxx
How long has this been there for?

If its recent i can actually see them doing this. Legit players would probably spend more (or attract more people = more cash anyway)

Re: Found this on the official sro website (about bot bans)

Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 12:16 pm
by Kieran
This has been posted countless times and it's quite an old interview. If you buy a lot of silk, you won't get banned. It's as simple as that (and trust me, I have A LOT of evidence behind that).

Re: Found this on the official sro website (about bot bans)

Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 12:20 pm
by xxbrentonxx
Kieran wrote:This has been posted countless times and it's quite an old interview. If you buy a lot of silk, you won't get banned. It's as simple as that (and trust me, I have A LOT of evidence behind that).

Lol provide evidence thats not based on someone doing it. But yeah this is from early 2006 and if you look back they actually seemed to have been doing a good job.

Re: Found this on the official sro website (about bot bans)

Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 12:24 pm
by Kieran
xxbrentonxx wrote:
Kieran wrote:This has been posted countless times and it's quite an old interview. If you buy a lot of silk, you won't get banned. It's as simple as that (and trust me, I have A LOT of evidence behind that).

Lol provide evidence thats not based on someone doing it. But yeah this is from early 2006 and if you look back they actually seemed to have been doing a good job.


LOL, what other evidence can I get? I know loads of people who buy silk and bot, not one of them have been banned. However, at the same time - I know loads of people who have used a bot/modified client and bought no silk and about 9/10 of them have been banned.

All you have to do is look at the ban list to see that 99% of those being banned all have goldbot names. Thus - playerbots usually buy silk and are not as likely to get banned.

That's my evidence and I'm sticking by it, I don't think I need to provide any more.

Re: Found this on the official sro website (about bot bans)

Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 12:27 pm
by xxbrentonxx
Kieran wrote:
xxbrentonxx wrote:
Kieran wrote:This has been posted countless times and it's quite an old interview. If you buy a lot of silk, you won't get banned. It's as simple as that (and trust me, I have A LOT of evidence behind that).

Lol provide evidence thats not based on someone doing it. But yeah this is from early 2006 and if you look back they actually seemed to have been doing a good job.


LOL, what other evidence can I get? I know loads of people who buy silk and bot, not one of them have been banned. However, at the same time - I know loads of people who have used a bot/modified client and bought no silk and about 9/10 of them have been banned.

All you have to do is look at the ban list to see that 99% of those being banned all have goldbot names. Thus - playerbots usually buy silk and are not as likely to get banned.

That's my evidence and I'm sticking by it, I don't think I need to provide any more.

But you said you have A LOT of evidence. Im thinking its more likely that the people who buy silk also buy bot cards but the people who dont buy silk use free bots, and paid bots would probably be better than free bots (or else why would anyone pay for them?)

Re: Found this on the official sro website (about bot bans)

Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 12:34 pm
by Kieran
xxbrentonxx wrote:
Kieran wrote:
xxbrentonxx wrote:
LOL, what other evidence can I get? I know loads of people who buy silk and bot, not one of them have been banned. However, at the same time - I know loads of people who have used a bot/modified client and bought no silk and about 9/10 of them have been banned.

All you have to do is look at the ban list to see that 99% of those being banned all have goldbot names. Thus - playerbots usually buy silk and are not as likely to get banned.

That's my evidence and I'm sticking by it, I don't think I need to provide any more.

But you said you have A LOT of evidence. Im thinking its more likely that the people who buy silk also buy bot cards but the people who dont buy silk use free bots, and paid bots would probably be better than free bots (or else why would anyone pay for them?)


When I said a lot of evidence, I didn't mean different forms of evidence. I just mean I have a lot of examples of people who bot and buy silk but don't get banned.

Re: Found this on the official sro website (about bot bans)

Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 12:50 pm
by JKMB
It shouldnt matter if there is silk on the account, a bot works by intercepting information packets from the server to the client and sending them back in a loop, on certain bots, like clientless goldbots, this process is easy to detect because they send back the wrong packets so JM knows there is something intercepting them (the bot) and bans them, as most player bots dont use clientless bots the packets looped back to the server are correct most of the time, and thus it is harder to detect that they are botting, iv known silk buying botters to get banned, it depends more on what bot they use then rather if they have bought silk :(

Re: Found this on the official sro website (about bot bans)

Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 12:53 pm
by Kieran
JKMB wrote:It shouldnt matter if there is silk on the account, a bot works by intercepting information packets from the server to the client and sending them back in a loop, on certain bots, like clientless goldbots, this process is easy to detect because they send back the wrong packets so JM knows there is something intercepting them (the bot) and bans them, as most player bots dont use clientless bots the packets looped back to the server are correct most of the time, and thus it is harder to detect that they are botting, iv known silk buying botters to get banned, it depends more on what bot they use then rather if they have bought silk :(


Bots that use clients can still send incorrect packets.

Re: Found this on the official sro website (about bot bans)

Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 12:57 pm
by JKMB
Which is why I said its harder to detect, not impossible, and iv known silkbuyers using rev6's bot to be banned before and silkbuyers using a clientless to be banned aswell.

Re: Found this on the official sro website (about bot bans)

Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 12:58 pm
by Kieran
JKMB wrote:Which is why I said its harder to detect, not impossible, and iv known silkbuyers using rev6's bot to be banned before and silkbuyers using a clientless to be banned aswell.


Usually if they've not bought silk in a little while they can expect to be banned. I'm talking about guys that buy Premium + every month.

Re: Found this on the official sro website (about bot bans)

Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 4:20 pm
by iSkate
i love this answer from them, wow

Re: Found this on the official sro website (about bot bans)

Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 5:59 pm
by Azilius
That was posted over a year if not two ago. Come on people..

Re: Found this on the official sro website (about bot bans)

Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 6:51 pm
by MiKe 51-50
Joymax will say whatever it takes to sound good to their paying customers. Does it mean they will ban silk buying bots? Not at all.
They use the weekly gold bot ban technique cause they noticed people started buying more silk "Cause joymax is trying to ban bots now".

Re: Found this on the official sro website (about bot bans)

Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 2:39 am
by xxbrentonxx
If you go back to wen they made this announcement they were banning maybe 10 each time, but a few months later they had an announcement of wanting to ban 1500 combined on all the (8) servers

Re: Found this on the official sro website (about bot bans)

Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 9:20 am
by marjin_boo
PM me Kiwis, West Auckland FTW!

xD

Re: Found this on the official sro website (about bot bans)

Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 9:25 am
by CloudStrider
I remember reading this a while ago, the post was making a point that silk buyers will be banned.

NZ Rugby FTL

Go Wallabies!

Re: Found this on the official sro website (about bot bans)

Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 5:40 pm
by PR0METHEUS
Kieran wrote:
JKMB wrote:It shouldnt matter if there is silk on the account, a bot works by intercepting information packets from the server to the client and sending them back in a loop, on certain bots, like clientless goldbots, this process is easy to detect because they send back the wrong packets so JM knows there is something intercepting them (the bot) and bans them, as most player bots dont use clientless bots the packets looped back to the server are correct most of the time, and thus it is harder to detect that they are botting, iv known silk buying botters to get banned, it depends more on what bot they use then rather if they have bought silk :(


Bots that use clients can still send incorrect packets.


A legit account, on a legit client, can also send incorrect packets if the packets get corrupted (or intercepted somehow) in transmission. I wonder what Joymax does, if anything, about non-repudiation. Probably nothing.

Re: Found this on the official sro website (about bot bans)

Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 6:08 pm
by Douken
Omg... I quited SRO 2 years ago, before the taklanmakan update. Why, caused everyone around me was a bot, and that was boring. I said, when these guys get better I play again, I guess I'll never play SRO again by the looks of it.

Re: Found this on the official sro website (about bot bans)

Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 8:11 pm
by Pan_Raider(`_´)
Douken wrote:Omg... I quited SRO 2 years ago, before the taklanmakan update. Why, caused everyone around me was a bot, and that was boring. I said, when these guys get better I play again, I guess I'll never play SRO again by the looks of it.



you are missing some stuff you'd regret...

Re: Found this on the official sro website (about bot bans)

Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 8:41 pm
by xZhang_Liaox
Pan_Raider(`_´) wrote:
Douken wrote:Omg... I quited SRO 2 years ago, before the taklanmakan update. Why, caused everyone around me was a bot, and that was boring. I said, when these guys get better I play again, I guess I'll never play SRO again by the looks of it.



you are missing some stuff you'd regret...


as for example? o_O

Re: Found this on the official sro website (about bot bans)

Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 9:02 pm
by BalkanFanaticS
it doesnt even matter if u bot or not , no silk = bann :(

but the clever ppl already have that figured out , and the noobies wont accept that till their last breath lol :banghead:

Re: Found this on the official sro website (about bot bans)

Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 11:11 am
by PR0METHEUS
BalkanFanaticS wrote:it doesnt even matter if u bot or not , no silk = bann :(

but the clever ppl already have that figured out , and the noobies wont accept that till their last breath lol :banghead:


I guess I'm a noobie then because I don't accept that. I've been playing SRO since sometime in 2006 (maybe summer?). I have 3 or 4 characters on Venice, 3 on Venus, and a few lvl 1's on at least 7 of the other servers. I have never purchased a single piece of silk on any account or character and none of them have been banned.

I haven't even logged into some of the characters on other servers in well over a year, and they are on the same account as my main characters.

Re: Found this on the official sro website (about bot bans)

Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 11:57 am
by REBD
PR0METHEUS wrote:
BalkanFanaticS wrote:it doesnt even matter if u bot or not , no silk = bann :(

but the clever ppl already have that figured out , and the noobies wont accept that till their last breath lol :banghead:


I guess I'm a noobie then because I don't accept that. I've been playing SRO since sometime in 2006 (maybe summer?). I have 3 or 4 characters on Venice, 3 on Venus, and a few lvl 1's on at least 7 of the other servers. I have never purchased a single piece of silk on any account or character and none of them have been banned.

I haven't even logged into some of the characters on other servers in well over a year, and they are on the same account as my main characters.


almost the same situation here, created my account in 2005. Have like 3 chars on Aege, 2 on Xian and others that i never played plus my new chars on Venus and none of them is banned. I have absolutely never bought any silk and i'm doing my best to never have to buy any.

I am wondering, do you think that it is possible that account switching may be one of the reasons they decide to dig deeper in your logs ? Also the "age" of the account, the oldest the better ?

Re: Found this on the official sro website (about bot bans)

Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 1:53 pm
by BalkanFanaticS
maybe u dont really log on them ?

Re: Found this on the official sro website (about bot bans)

Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 2:10 pm
by REBD
BalkanFanaticS wrote:maybe u dont really log on them ?


I only play on Venus but i have checked the other chars and they are all fine.