I'm cleric and I have bard sub. But my bard stays at lvl 20, because I'm not wanting to save more SP for it. Is it worth getting lvl 10 warrior for shield bash? What does the skill exactly do and is a lvl 10 skill still usefull at lvl 40 and higher? Thanks for any info.
Re: Shield Bash
Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 11:03 am
by BloodyBlade
Well, I have it, and its so damn usefull It knockbacks your enemies, and has a 80% chance to succeed(correct me if I'm wrong), it can also add dull status, so they will move slower. Its very good at pvp, and a life saver in pve. I have a rogue/cleric, and the shield skill is so usefull =)
Re: Shield Bash
Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 11:39 am
by Quyxz
Thanks for the info. Does the 80% still count on high lvl mobs? I guess the dull is lvl 1 so that will not affect a lvl 40+ mob much ?
Re: Shield Bash
Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 11:55 am
by vermillion
still 80% for any lvl mob. Lv1 dull won't affect higher lvl mobs that much.
Re: Shield Bash
Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 12:16 pm
by BloodyBlade
vermillion wrote:still 80% for any lvl mob. Lv1 dull won't affect higher lvl mobs that much.
Still, I've "dulled" enough people in pvp that are around my lvl.
Re: Shield Bash
Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 12:22 pm
by sawney
BloodyBlade wrote:
vermillion wrote:still 80% for any lvl mob. Lv1 dull won't affect higher lvl mobs that much.
Still, I've "dulled" enough people in pvp that are around my lvl.
yea but its like, dull lvl 1 is on ppl around lvl 5 or somehting like 10 sec
and on lvl 60+ ppl its like 4 sec or somehting
Re: Shield Bash
Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 12:55 pm
by BloodyBlade
sawney wrote:
BloodyBlade wrote:
vermillion wrote:still 80% for any lvl mob. Lv1 dull won't affect higher lvl mobs that much.
Still, I've "dulled" enough people in pvp that are around my lvl.
yea but its like, dull lvl 1 is on ppl around lvl 5 or somehting like 10 sec
and on lvl 60+ ppl its like 4 sec or somehting
I dont really mind dull, as long as I can knockback people.
Ohyeah, NEVER knockback a bow/xbow ^_^
Re: Shield Bash
Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 1:01 pm
by Quyxz
and how long is the recasting time of the skill ?
Re: Shield Bash
Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 1:38 pm
by BloodyBlade
Quyxz wrote:and how long is the recasting time of the skill ?
If I'm right, 3~4 seconds. Also, I dont really mind the cooldown, when the enemy gets back to you you can cast shield bash again x)
Re: Shield Bash
Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 1:41 pm
by Quyxz
BloodyBlade wrote:
Quyxz wrote:and how long is the recasting time of the skill ?
If I'm right, 3~4 seconds. Also, I dont really mind the cooldown, when the enemy gets back to you you can cast shield bash again x)
ok nice, so it's not like I can do it once a minut or something. Well Ill take the skill then when I log in
thanks for zeh info
Re: Shield Bash
Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 2:49 pm
by Ash
why does every one ignore "Clamor" which binds the enemy to the ground & it has 80% chance success !!!!!!!!!!!
if you don't know clamor is in teh bard tree & it's a ranged attack with very fast casting time.
Re: Shield Bash
Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 3:06 pm
by BloodyBlade
Ash wrote:why does every one ignore "Clamor" which binds the enemy to the ground & it has 80% chance success !!!!!!!!!!!
if you don't know clamor is in teh bard tree & it's a ranged attack with very fast casting time.
Why do you want to have clamor when you can have heaven flash from cleric tree?
Re: Shield Bash
Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 3:16 pm
by KoRniziWa
atm you say, that ur too lazy to farm sp...
when ur lvl90, you might be angry that you got low lvl warrior skills
90bard 90cleric much better than 80bard 90cleric 10warrior
Re: Shield Bash
Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 3:34 pm
by JoyFax
10 warrior is so easy to curst heart it out...
Yes. add the shield bash, besides its always fun to bash people in pvp
Re: Shield Bash
Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 4:17 pm
by Quyxz
KoRniziWa wrote:atm you say, that ur too lazy to farm sp...
when ur lvl90, you might be angry that you got low lvl warrior skills
90bard 90cleric much better than 80bard 90cleric 10warrior
well ill never hit 90 and ill never lvl bard up to my current lvl
and yes, i can use some cleric skill to bind enemies. But I don't use it xD
Re: Shield Bash
Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 4:26 pm
by XMoshe
Bard skills are worth it..They are stronger than cleric skills (except offering ofc) and overheal is usefull for buffed up wizzies etc but ok. I would farm a bit for bard but that's just me : )
Re: Shield Bash
Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 4:46 pm
by Nitro
[SW]XMoshe wrote:Bard skills are worth it..They are stronger than cleric skills (except offering ofc) and overheal is usefull for buffed up wizzies etc but ok. I would farm a bit for bard but that's just me : )
I agree, Bard at cap is best ong powerleveler.
Re: Shield Bash
Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 5:46 pm
by XMoshe
Nitro wrote:
[SW]XMoshe wrote:Bard skills are worth it..They are stronger than cleric skills (except offering ofc) and overheal is usefull for buffed up wizzies etc but ok. I would farm a bit for bard but that's just me : )
I agree, Bard at cap is best ong powerleveler.
Wiz has that title I think
Re: Shield Bash
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 3:34 am
by You_Dead_Yet
[SW]XMoshe wrote:
Nitro wrote:
[SW]XMoshe wrote:Bard skills are worth it..They are stronger than cleric skills (except offering ofc) and overheal is usefull for buffed up wizzies etc but ok. I would farm a bit for bard but that's just me : )
I agree, Bard at cap is best ong powerleveler.
Wiz has that title I think
Talking of euro without any sub, i think Bard would be better as pwlvl.
They have 100% speed and wont use any hp pot or mp pot (if u use mp regen skills) so if you take 2 harps you can go for really long time
Also the nukes + booming wave combinaison works really well in pwlvl. you can aggro pt mobs with the nukes and then hit them all hard with booming.
but yeah wizard is probably as good or so with his insane dmg.
But bards would cost A LOT less for the pwlvler No mp pots, no speed pots.
Re: Shield Bash
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 1:07 pm
by MissLe2
for the cleric with shield knock back gives you time to charge your attacks sometimes with mobs with phs attack you knock them back at right time their attack is wasted knocking back also gives you time for pot cool time to recharge
plus it is fun in CTF and PVP you just know when it happens to someone, they are saying @##!$%
Re: Shield Bash
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 2:51 pm
by bygeorge2512
do you need a one-handed sword equipped to used shield thrash?
Re: Shield Bash
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 3:51 pm
by Amelie
bygeorge2512 wrote:do you need a one-handed sword equipped to used shield thrash?
just the shield
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made this at 80 cap, using shield bash.
Re: Shield Bash
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 4:14 pm
by pr0klobster
Adding my two cents in, I still am keeping 10 in warrior. I pvp'd some of my friends last night and it is very useful for interrupting a nuke or something. Not to mention it gets them away from you and gives you enough time to start an offering, less chance of them interrupting you.
All you need is the shield to bash 'em.
A little off-topic, bard>nuker at higher level, the cast times are much faster. I can ks a lot of bots
Only thing left to decide is which skillset stays at 80, cleric or bard.
Re: Shield Bash
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 5:33 pm
by XMoshe
You_Dead_Yet wrote:
[SW]XMoshe wrote:
Nitro wrote:I agree, Bard at cap is best ong powerleveler.
Wiz has that title I think
Talking of euro without any sub, i think Bard would be better as pwlvl.
They have 100% speed and wont use any hp pot or mp pot (if u use mp regen skills) so if you take 2 harps you can go for really long time
Also the nukes + booming wave combinaison works really well in pwlvl. you can aggro pt mobs with the nukes and then hit them all hard with booming.
but yeah wizard is probably as good or so with his insane dmg.
But bards would cost A LOT less for the pwlvler No mp pots, no speed pots.
Yeah you would use mp pots but speed isn't needed if you have a nice hill at ongs for example. And the killspeed is higher because of the bigger AoE I think so that would make up for the pot cost IMO
Re: Shield Bash
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 6:36 pm
by BloodyBlade
Amelie wrote:
bygeorge2512 wrote:do you need a one-handed sword equipped to used shield thrash?
just the shield
made this at 80 cap, using shield bash.
I was waiting for this, one of the better pvp movies. =)
Ohyeah, and no moving march needed for powerlvl at ongs, if you start moving you are at a wrong spot ^_^
Re: Shield Bash
Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 4:56 am
by /Pi
Shield bash on clerics or warlocks is fine, just make sure you know when to use it in a party. I've had clerics in the past who shield bash and end up transferring the aggro to other INTs, killin them. xD It also gets pretty messy with shield bash.
Re: Shield Bash
Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 9:03 am
by Redd
Its an extremely useful skill especially if you enjoy pvp and beating the shit out of ppl with offering. You drop to 10% of your hp as offering hits, but they can still get a shot into you. Good combo is shield trash+offering..makes it impossible for them to retaliate, unless the trash doesn't kb or they block offering..and which point ur fairly screwed.
Re: Shield Bash
Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 11:40 am
by Quyxz
Redd wrote:Its an extremely useful skill especially if you enjoy pvp and beating the shit out of ppl with offering. You drop to 10% of your hp as offering hits, but they can still get a shot into you. Good combo is shield trash+offering..makes it impossible for them to retaliate, unless the trash doesn't kb or they block offering..and which point ur fairly screwed.
o yeah, if my offering gets blocked I always feel fuucked xD
But healing cycle, then offering and then immediately shield bash is a nice idea, if offering gets blocked.