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Posted: **Sat Sep 27, 2008 5:46 pm**

Pure int light chinese or pure int wizard euro

Posted: **Sat Sep 27, 2008 5:47 pm**

Wizard.

Posted: **Sat Sep 27, 2008 5:51 pm**

andrejat wrote:Wizard.

Posted: **Sat Sep 27, 2008 6:17 pm**

Well it depends...

Handgrinding = Wizard
Botting = Int Nuker

You seen yourself, that 80% of top high levels in Gaia are Int Nukers (S/S mostly).
Because Wizards cannot be botted up (There are few on which they can be, but not all of them)

Overall, Wizard does level up faster (party play) and solo, but you have to be really careful, while facing Giants...
Umm one thing, if you are chooing your next character by Who-will-get-faster-to-cap, dont do it like that,
because you will get bored fast, and quit it.

Trust me, if you like Blader, but you dont want to play him because he levels up slow, still pick blader, you will get higher level with him, than you'd with Wizard/IntS/S.

Posted: **Sat Sep 27, 2008 7:05 pm**

Nitro wrote:Well it depends...
Handgrinding = Wizard
Botting = Int Nuker

You seen yourself, that 80% of top high levels in Gaia are Int Nukers (S/S mostly).
Because Wizards cannot be botted up (There are few on which they can be, but not all of them)

Overall, Wizard does level up faster (party play) and solo, but you have to be really careful, while facing Giants...
Umm one thing, if you are chooing your next character by Who-will-get-faster-to-cap, dont do it like that,
because you will get bored fast, and quit it.

Trust me, if you like Blader, but you dont want to play him because he levels up slow, still pick blader, you will get higher level with him, than you'd with Wizard/IntS/S.

Why even suggest botting on legit forum? lol

Posted: **Sat Sep 27, 2008 7:05 pm**

He didn't suggest anything, he just pointed out a truth.

Posted: **Sat Sep 27, 2008 7:06 pm**

Norain_ wrote:
Nitro wrote:Well it depends...
Handgrinding = Wizard
Botting = Int Nuker

You seen yourself, that 80% of top high levels in Gaia are Int Nukers (S/S mostly).
Because Wizards cannot be botted up (There are few on which they can be, but not all of them)

Overall, Wizard does level up faster (party play) and solo, but you have to be really careful, while facing Giants...
Umm one thing, if you are chooing your next character by Who-will-get-faster-to-cap, dont do it like that,
because you will get bored fast, and quit it.

Trust me, if you like Blader, but you dont want to play him because he levels up slow, still pick blader, you will get higher level with him, than you'd with Wizard/IntS/S.

Why even suggest botting on legit forum? lol

He's not suggesting it. He's stating facts.

Posted: **Sat Sep 27, 2008 7:12 pm**

Norain_ wrote:
Nitro wrote:Well it depends...
Handgrinding = Wizard
Botting = Int Nuker

You seen yourself, that 80% of top high levels in Gaia are Int Nukers (S/S mostly).
Because Wizards cannot be botted up (There are few on which they can be, but not all of them)

Overall, Wizard does level up faster (party play) and solo, but you have to be really careful, while facing Giants...
Umm one thing, if you are chooing your next character by Who-will-get-faster-to-cap, dont do it like that,
because you will get bored fast, and quit it.

Trust me, if you like Blader, but you dont want to play him because he levels up slow, still pick blader, you will get higher level with him, than you'd with Wizard/IntS/S.

Why even suggest botting on legit forum? lol

I'm not suggesting anything, those are just facts.... We need more facts on this forum,
so I dont have to hear comments "botters dont know how to play their character".

P.S. Thanks Stress & Blurred.

Posted: **Sat Sep 27, 2008 7:46 pm**

wizard

i thought pure int spear levels up faster but i changed my mind after leveling with wizard

imo wizard build is better from many aspects:

1-higher damage (w or w/o LC) than int chinese spear
2-best build for pfarming/plvling
3-better buffer (if you have cleric or bard as a sub)
4-more nukes to use (trust me you won't get bored)
5-invincibility FTW
6-faster in leveling with auto parties since all euro builds get 20% bonus in those parties
7-best KS'er n teh game since it has faster casting time & highest DMG

p.s.
for this kind of topics better to make a poll

Posted: **Sat Sep 27, 2008 7:49 pm**

^And more annoying in PvP, and weaker.
I hate when I have to 3-4 Wizards outside Samarkand... it really isnt fun for me to rebuff everytime nor for them, to run to safezone and back.

Posted: **Sat Sep 27, 2008 8:59 pm**

wizard has 4 types nuke
int light has 1-2 nuke + shout

=> wizard win

But it depends on what u kill, where u kill too
light = short range nuke
wiz = far range nuke

wiz vs party mob without tanker = dead, espiecially in cave or vs a ranged mob
light nuker survive with mana shield

Posted: **Sat Sep 27, 2008 9:10 pm**

Ash wrote:wizard

i thought pure int spear levels up faster but i changed my mind after leveling with wizard

imo wizard build is better from many aspects:

1-higher damage (w or w/o LC) than int chinese spear Yes.
2-best build for pfarming/plvling Yes.
3-better buffer (if you have cleric or bard as a sub) Yes.
4-more nukes to use (trust me you won't get bored) Mabye?*
5-invincibility FTW No.
6-faster in leveling with auto parties since all euro builds get 20% bonus in those parties Yes
7-best KS'er n teh game since it has faster casting time & highest DMG Yes.

p.s.
for this kind of topics better to make a poll

*You get more nukes, but once you hit 20 you don't get a new nukes until 60. 76-90 No new nukes. This also means a lot of SP.
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I really hate wizards. Anytime you get KB/KD in 1v1 your going to die. Earlier today jobbing, A wizard with 60% warrior buffs and phy/mag/ult screens, as well as bless+earth fence, was 1 hit by me due to cleric sub.

Wizards will lose very often vs warriors, and vs rouges, bladers, clerics, warlocks, archers.

Chinese ints are a joke (imo) at this cap, and fail incredibly hard without snow. If your looking for PvP where if you can't kill them before snow ends, you lose, or PvP where if a wizard/rouge hits you before you snow, you lose, its the build for you.

Also, as stated, if your botting the spear will be much faster, due to less deaths.

If your going to party play a lot, I'd suggest a warlock/cleric, rouge/cleric, or warrior/cleric. For soloing, Bow.

Best PvE (IMO)
Rouge/bard
Wizard/bard
Archer
S/S nuker
Spear Nuker

Best PvP (Again, IMO)
Rouge/Cleric
Warrior/Cleric
Warlock/Warrior
Force Archer
Force Blader
Hybrid Blade
Hybrid Archer

Apologies for the length of the reply so heres the short version:
Wizards aren't fun for either player in PvP, will level quickly in parties, and dominates group PvP.

Chinese Int Spear is very very strong only in snow, when that ends your done. Also, even in snow, the high damage builds can kill you.

@Nuclear Chinese have 3 fire nukes alone, 1 light nuke and one shout. Wizards have longer range indeed.

I personally prefer having 3 types of nukes opposed to like 11 nukes...(Fire AoE,Fire Single/penetration, and shout. If your farmed, ice AoE as well. Wizards essentially have the same, only they have the KB nuke, Fear, and fire blow.

Posted: **Sat Sep 27, 2008 9:12 pm**

Norain_ wrote:Why even suggest botting on legit forum? lol

lol wow

OT: wizard is way faster.

Posted: **Sat Sep 27, 2008 9:14 pm**

Wizzard but if u ask me Rogue lvls fast too . But only thing is Rogue gets boring .

Posted: **Sat Sep 27, 2008 9:14 pm**

Deaths and SP cost probably make them even, not considering weapon mastery. No matter how u cut it Wizards cost a lot of SP. Even Bard secondary doesn't really help it. On the other hand, you can level a Light nuker to 90 with Imbue, Piercing Force, Grass Walk and Light Nukes only. Wizards will probably die a lot more than a Nuker while leveling up which will start to add up.

IMO one should pick based on how they like to play, solo or parties. Wizards are worth it with constant parties but maybe not so much solo.

Posted: **Sat Sep 27, 2008 9:15 pm**

Nitro wrote:^And more annoying in PvP, and weaker.
I hate when I have to 3-4 Wizards outside Samarkand... it really isnt fun for me to rebuff everytime nor for them, to run to safezone and back.

be glad your not on olympus
theres a lvl 90 wiz thats at dw almost 24/7 she has full sos and she has like 2 warriors and 1 cleric and 2 bards or 2 clerics following her and buffing and healing her.

Posted: **Sat Sep 27, 2008 9:33 pm**

Shadowfox542 wrote:@Nuclear Chinese have 3 fire nukes alone, 1 light nuke and one shout.

The thread starter said pure int light. It means that he intends to build weapon + ice + light => no fire

Posted: **Sat Sep 27, 2008 10:07 pm**

All Euros make bad botting since they are party play but I suggest str bow or S/S nuker I would suggest wiz or spear but they die more and it wont be good xp if you die.

Posted: **Sun Sep 28, 2008 12:12 pm**

euros lvl faster than chinese

bards in party dont die , cuz they have noise and just uns MC => no aggro => dont die => dont lose 2% ^_^ u're happy
rogue (xbow) for solo cuz u 1 hit like everything

so , the conclusion , rogue/bard xD

Posted: **Sun Sep 28, 2008 12:26 pm**

only_me wrote:euros lvl faster than chinese

bards in party dont die , cuz they have noise and just uns MC => no aggro => dont die => dont lose 2% ^_^ u're happy
rogue (xbow) for solo cuz u 1 hit like everything

so , the conclusion , rogue/bard xD

About Rogue/Bard, if its rush to the cap, he wont get there first, I'm 100% positive.

Handgrinding: It goes fast but lets face it, who is that sick to do same thing, watch same animations for 3++ hours? I dont know, but doing that daily ... and he has REALLY hard time finding the party ... so that is big fail for Lets-Rush-To-The-Cap-Build.
Botting:I dont think they can recast noise & moving march with bot... I highly doubt ... and even if he is getting botted up, I wouldnt use XE (we are speaking about Xbow rogue, since Dagger sucks for PvE) and he wouldnt be able to be botted up on higher levels (how we handgrind him) - meaning he needs to bot up on mobs his level, without moving march & noise and without XE ... so that makes him same as any other chinese guys, even weaker, since he has pot delay.

Thats my opinion, but seriously, handgrinding with Rogue/Bard ... Idk who plays him 3++ hours everyday...

Topic Starter - What build did you choose? Trust me, just choose the build you like,
not the one that levels up fast, Silkroad is for fun, not for a "I must do it" but yeah ... I wish we can have fun at lower levels ... but this is MMORPG , its the same at every MMO...

Posted: **Sun Sep 28, 2008 1:47 pm**

Heavy int hibrid bow imho.
It seconds or equals the wizzy. Light buffs, ice buffs, longest range etc.
Everyone laughed at me, but you know, i killed higher (+1lvl) full str archer in pvp like 5wins and 2 losses(i turned off snow these times)

Both me and opponent used sun bows+sun equips. I was full sun garm. He was mostly sun prot.

EDIT: sry, i forgot.
20str points at the beginning and after that, only int.

109% mag ballance, 67% phy ballance if you max the +str/int stats

Posted: **Sun Sep 28, 2008 2:04 pm**

Are bots able to weapon switch btw?

If so, it wouldnt be that difficult to have euro bots

Posted: **Sun Sep 28, 2008 2:36 pm**

BloodyBlade wrote:Are bots able to weapon switch btw?
If so, it wouldnt be that difficult to have euro bots

I highly doubt, but I think its possible, since we can see Wizards goldbots with Recovery Divison on them all the time.

Posted: **Sun Sep 28, 2008 2:38 pm**

BloodyBlade wrote:Are bots able to weapon switch btw?
If so, it wouldnt be that difficult to have euro bots

They can with a program. Called AutoIt i think.

Posted: **Sun Sep 28, 2008 3:16 pm**

Soo, why dont I see a 'normal' player bot use it? :p

Posted: **Sun Sep 28, 2008 3:28 pm**

BloodyBlade wrote:Are bots able to weapon switch btw?
If so, it wouldnt be that difficult to have euro bots

There is such a program my friend uses it , he is Wizard/Cleric lv90 and he bots on rockies with no problem because of that program and that is really annoying, because if he doesnt recast RD he die like a shit... :banghead:

Posted: **Sun Sep 28, 2008 4:14 pm**

NuclearSilo wrote:wizard has 4 types nuke
int light has 1-2 nuke + shout

Hmm. If you are talking about an INT light, than you most likely mean a Spearman (alot of s/s dont take light it seems) So than the spearman SHOULD also have Ice.
So that means up to 4 nukes and 2 shouts by level 50. (Snow Storm: Ice Shot and Ice Rain, Wolf and Tigers thunderbolt)
Doesnt sound to bad to me.

Posted: **Sun Sep 28, 2008 4:52 pm**

btw... watching this topic...
Is this rly a fact and not advertising bots and so?...
>.>
bleh...

Posted: **Sun Sep 28, 2008 4:53 pm**

Norain_ wrote:
BloodyBlade wrote:Are bots able to weapon switch btw?
If so, it wouldnt be that difficult to have euro bots

They can with a program. Called AutoIt i think.

AutoIT is a programming compiler... They use macros or it's built into the bot.

Posted: **Sun Sep 28, 2008 5:44 pm**

Stephanus wrote:btw... watching this topic...
Is this rly a fact and not advertising bots and so?...
>.>
bleh...

Thanks for your PM. I think I'm going to close this now. We're only talking how well bots perform with certain builds.

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