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Using clerics in job war :(
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 1:25 am
by ciko1984
Hello guys i realised that most of thieves, trades take 1-2 clerics with them (clerics are NOT wearing job costumes of course) and if they find each other then an endless and meaningless war starts, kill --> reverse immo kill (if you can
) reverse immo etc. i posted jm about this and i'm sure that lots of people have same problems, do you think they can solve that problem? i mean cleric that doesn't wear job suite CANNOT res or buff thieves or hunters,traders. btw i think they won't do anything as pk2 edit...
Re: Using clerics in job war :(
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 1:39 am
by Genocide
yes i also hate outside clerics its so hard to rob trades these days
Re: Using clerics in job war :(
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 1:41 am
by M3K0S
mmm sound very 714 to me... i kno we have many arguments with them after we pwn their azz in the middle of the trade even tho we have suitted cleric and they bring unsuited clerics... im usually the one that ends up pking the unsuited one... xD
Re: Using clerics in job war :(
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 1:42 am
by TheRealAnswer1
They should make it where no one unsuited can assist a suited character. Clerics/warriors/bards/warlocks... etc pretty much any euro.
Re: Using clerics in job war :(
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 1:57 am
by Mishiru
bahh thatz un fair. but the good thing is that if you have a cleric friend who can help you is cool
just a pot war. the one who waste his pots 1st lose
Re: Using clerics in job war :(
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 2:02 am
by Ash
outsider clerics have ruined a big part of the game pvp , jobs & guild wars . they should limit the cleric buffs to party members only (except for the resurrection skill) .
Re: Using clerics in job war :(
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 2:34 am
by Ragnorak
this is why i'm finding most job wars in troy pointless this days...thief bring there safe zone bards/hunters bring there safe zone bards...both sides bring some outside ressers..someone dies immolation---what do u know we have someone with over 100% phy/mag abortion...the endless resurrection continuous...the losers are the ones that get bored 1st and take there job suit off....i'll admit that I like the days when K_O union was still together..at least there was some trading activity...I use to get on a job suit and help some traders that were being rob from either immortality or Arkenstone union..didn't really care at least it was fun.
Re: Using clerics in job war :(
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:07 am
by DeathBeforeDishonor
JM ruined another asspect of silkroad.
What's next?
Hopefully they do change
the system so clerics can only heal and
buff if they are in party
:):):)
That would be great but chances are it's
not 'gonna happen. I need to find a new
game lol but I can't give up SRO ^^
Re: Using clerics in job war :(
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 9:00 am
by foudre
DeathBeforeDishonor wrote:JM ruined another asspect of silkroad.
What's next?
Hopefully they do change
the system so clerics can only heal and
buff if they are in party
:):):)
That would be great but chances are it's
not 'gonna happen. I need to find a new
game lol but I can't give up SRO ^^
i don't think you should limit from healing out side of party cause you walking to your grind spot and see some one dead or clearly about to die, i sometimes feel nice enough to help, what needs to be different is making jobed players invalid targets for unjobed buffs and res
Re: Using clerics in job war :(
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 1:55 pm
by Kayson
If the jobbing is ruined I'm leaving. It's the only reason I've stayed with SRO and not moved to Guild Wars or some other game.
Way to go Joymax (edit) AND players.
Re: Using clerics in job war :(
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 1:58 pm
by Adry^
DeathBeforeDishonor wrote:JM ruined another asspect of silkroad.
players did, not JM...
Re: Using clerics in job war :(
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 2:00 pm
by Toasty
yup tis stupid.. i wont ever do that while jobbing (being a cleric myself). though i will if its against bots.
Re: Using clerics in job war :(
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 2:06 pm
by PureStr
im #1 legit trader on venus and i've never used an outside cleric for my trades, thats just being retardly weak.
I've never been robbed so far, and never saw a theif with an outisde cleric.
Eventho i agree with the fact that it sucks, idont think its much of a problem.
Re: Using clerics in job war :(
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 2:07 pm
by _Scarlett_
Adry^ wrote:DeathBeforeDishonor wrote:JM ruined another asspect of silkroad.
players did, not JM...
Someone sees the light!
Re: Using clerics in job war :(
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:02 pm
by selenne
i always said that.
the problem isnt da game, is da ppl who play da game.
Re: Using clerics in job war :(
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:13 pm
by foudre
PureStr wrote:im #1 legit trader on venus and i've never used an outside cleric for my trades, thats just being retardly weak.
I've never been robbed so far, and never saw a theif with an outisde cleric.
Eventho i agree with the fact that it sucks, idont think its much of a problem.
It is when you have immortal theives attacking your trade, remember a trade that took almost 3 hours from just hotan to dw, because of unsuited cleric, its just so lame to cheat like that, and the lame argument get your own cleric, it becomes a endless fight till some one murders the other cleric, shouldn't have to get punished for doing a trade by loosing like 30% exp and possible loosing gear
Re: Using clerics in job war :(
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:38 pm
by JoyFax
Quick everyone!
Spam joymax on the forums about that, they did the trader thing of not being able to change and no 1* poping and everyone was whining about that.
Re: Using clerics in job war :(
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 9:45 pm
by Ash
JoyFax wrote:Quick everyone!
Spam joymax on the forums about that, they did the trader thing of not being able to change and no 1* poping and everyone was whining about that.
you mean we will need another 2 years to fix the cleric "bug"
cuz you know the 1* popping wasn't fixed till the european update
Re: Using clerics in job war :(
Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 12:26 am
by ciko1984
today we made another trade (with 7 lvl90s) and 2 clerics (don't wear job outfit ofcourse) and 7-8 thieves that always ressed with immo and str,int,phy,mag. defenced ... and after 3 hours of meaningless fighting we left the place with swearing jm... can you think about it? it sux
Re: Using clerics in job war :(
Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 12:32 am
by t0rch
Ash wrote:outsider clerics have ruined a big part of the game pvp , jobs & guild wars . they should limit the cleric buffs to party members only (except for the resurrection skill) .
Off topic: you should cite where you got that quote in your sig from big boy
Re: Using clerics in job war :(
Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 1:21 pm
by pr0klobster
The deal is:
If a bug can be exploited, it will be. Thieves may have started it, or maybe hunters, but yeah, now EVERYONE seems to do it.
Thieves can still rob a trade, though, if they coordinate well. The cleric usually isn't in the party, so unless they have vent/xfire/some way of communicating quickly the location of the party (when the cleric slows down and gets left behind lol) it's still doable.
Re: Using clerics in job war :(
Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 1:25 pm
by Rosemead
I know how we can MAKE them fix this bug. Simply tell them that before clerics healing and ressing outside of job suit, people would use SILK in order to spawn instantly back in the last spot they died at. Now they aren't spending SILK into that feature because of these clerics. So if they fix it where it would say:
"Cannot heal or ressurect others outside job suit"
They would totally do it, as seeing how they would benefit financially.
Re: Using clerics in job war :(
Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 2:27 pm
by PureStr
Rosemead wrote:I know how we can MAKE them fix this bug. Simply tell them that before clerics healing and ressing outside of job suit, people would use SILK in order to spawn instantly back in the last spot they died at. Now they aren't spending SILK into that feature because of these clerics. So if they fix it where it would say:
"Cannot heal or ressurect others outside job suit"
They would totally do it, as seeing how they would benefit financially.
Rofl, thats a very good way to see it.
Im gonna spam the bug report with that text!
Re: Using clerics in job war :(
Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 4:34 pm
by slimshady
Rosemead wrote:I know how we can MAKE them fix this bug. Simply tell them that before clerics healing and ressing outside of job suit, people would use SILK in order to spawn instantly back in the last spot they died at. Now they aren't spending SILK into that feature because of these clerics. So if they fix it where it would say:
"Cannot heal or ressurect others outside job suit"
They would totally do it, as seeing how they would benefit financially.
+1
Re: Using clerics in job war :(
Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 4:36 pm
by CloudStrider
slimshady wrote:Rosemead wrote:I know how we can MAKE them fix this bug. Simply tell them that before clerics healing and ressing outside of job suit, people would use SILK in order to spawn instantly back in the last spot they died at. Now they aren't spending SILK into that feature because of these clerics. So if they fix it where it would say:
"Cannot heal or ressurect others outside job suit"
They would totally do it, as seeing how they would benefit financially.
+1
True, the only way to fix something when it comes to JM is threatening their funds.
Re: Using clerics in job war :(
Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 8:30 pm
by ciko1984
CloudStrider wrote:slimshady wrote:Rosemead wrote:I know how we can MAKE them fix this bug. Simply tell them that before clerics healing and ressing outside of job suit, people would use SILK in order to spawn instantly back in the last spot they died at. Now they aren't spending SILK into that feature because of these clerics. So if they fix it where it would say:
"Cannot heal or ressurect others outside job suit"
They would totally do it, as seeing how they would benefit financially.
+1
lol
True, the only way to fix something when it comes to JM is threatening their funds.
Re: Using clerics in job war :(
Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 6:57 pm
by weymouthhall
A lot of pussy hunters in my server took clerics along with them when they traded too. Im usually the one that took care of them, pwn the shit out of them and get lvl 15 murder
Pussies like those deserve to die
Re: Using clerics in job war :(
Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 7:03 pm
by Taelys
It's like that since very long, out party clerics buffing thieves, hunters, traders, used during a guild war, PVP, etc...
Clerics are also nice and ress you when you are deep in the caves and got killed by a mob, avoiding the return to don, the horse run and the cave run to the spot you were grinding... I mean if you are not in their party ^^
Perhaps they should install a patch that clerics can't buff players with a job suit on or a cape on unless they belong to the party or have the appropriate cape, or players during a guild war or fortress war excepted those in their parties???
Re: Using clerics in job war :(
Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 6:24 pm
by HawaiianMix
Easy solution.
1. Jobbing: Only people wearing same job suit can buff/heal you. Buffs stay on in safe zone but CAN NOT BE CASTED WHILE IN SAFE ZONE. ( forces healers/ buffers to come outside of cities )
2. PvP: Buffs/heals can only be used when healer and the person being buffed has a cape on. Buffs stay on in safe zone but CAN NOT BE CASTED WHILE IN SAFE ZONE. ( forces healers/ buffers to come outside of cities )
3. Grinding: Doesnt matter.
4. Wars: Only people in guild or union can buff you. Buffs stay on in safe zone but CAN NOT BE CASTED WHILE IN SAFE ZONE. ( forces healers/ buffers to come outside of cities )
Re: Using clerics in job war :(
Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 8:45 pm
by ciko1984
That would be a good idea i'll spam that on forums
