BABEL: 3 vs 3 Tournament

[Crni_Vatreni]

Ahead sorry for not posting into guilds/babel section, but it's dead over there.

Me was thinkin, after my two buddies get to 90 FF, to make a strictly chinese 3 vs 3 tournament. All lvl 90 FF characters.

What would be the best crew?

My guess is three bladers.

[[TS]=Hark=[TS]]

bower+two glaivers i think

galives up front stuning, bows got stun and can KB if they person gets to close. bower can pretty much ranges and not be attacked.

[Ragnorak]

bower+two glaivers i think

galives up front stuning, bows got stun and can KB if they person gets to close. bower can pretty much ranges and not be attacked.

that might work..since while stun..u can't pot at all...and have bower using kb..or stun atks..as well....yet again 3 bladers can spam kd -.-..could go either way

[[SD]bizzle]

lol,if its was euro obviously cleric/warrior/wizard

no other team can beat that euro or chi, unless its excatly same team

[_Scarlett_]

Best way is to set it up similar to a euro pt: Good 3-man chi pt would prolly be: blader/glaiver for tanker (would be better as a blader), then have someone there to disrupt the others, either an archer for kb/stun or a glaiver, and then have your dmg dealer with a nuker.

[Crni_Vatreni]

lol,if its was euro obviously cleric/warrior/wizard

no other team can beat that euro or chi, unless its excatly same team

Ahead sorry for not posting into guilds/babel section, but it's dead over there.

Me was thinkin, after my two buddies get to 90 FF, to make a strictly chinese 3 vs 3 tournament. All lvl 90 FF characters.

What would be the best crew?

My guess is three bladers.

[Tasdik]

lol,if its was euro obviously cleric/warrior/wizard

no other team can beat that euro or chi, unless its excatly same team

That party would be easy to defeat if lets say there were 3 bladers vs the euro party....The bladers all run at the wizard and use the sword throw thing or w/e and bam wizard is down...they next go after the cleric kill him and then take the warrior out....granted while their taking down the cleric and wiz the warrior will be trying to kill them...but I think since their bladers at least 2 will survive to then have it 2 vs 1 bladers vs warrior
*granted I don't really know how good warriors can or can't be...*shrugs*

[KsqueaKJ]

instead of 3 bladers why not 2 bladers and 1 s/s full int.

this way they have a good dmg dealer even when the kd the nuker can do the same thing and also nuke when they are up.

[PinayLoveNukes]

lol,if its was euro obviously cleric/warrior/wizard

no other team can beat that euro or chi, unless its excatly same team

That party would be easy to defeat if lets say there were 3 bladers vs the euro party....The bladers all run at the wizard and use the sword throw thing or w/e and bam wizard is down...they next go after the cleric kill him and then take the warrior out....granted while their taking down the cleric and wiz the warrior will be trying to kill them...but I think since their bladers at least 2 will survive to then have it 2 vs 1 bladers vs warrior
*granted I don't really know how good warriors can or can't be...*shrugs*

wat about three bowers =O. Spam knockback

[_Scarlett_]

lol,if its was euro obviously cleric/warrior/wizard

no other team can beat that euro or chi, unless its excatly same team

That party would be easy to defeat if lets say there were 3 bladers vs the euro party....The bladers all run at the wizard and use the sword throw thing or w/e and bam wizard is down...they next go after the cleric kill him and then take the warrior out....granted while their taking down the cleric and wiz the warrior will be trying to kill them...but I think since their bladers at least 2 will survive to then have it 2 vs 1 bladers vs warrior
*granted I don't really know how good warriors can or can't be...*shrugs*

That doesn't just apply to warriors, don't think you've had any experience with or against a good, functional euro pt. With the cleric healing, warrior disrupting, tanking, and protecting, and the wiz just nuking the sh*t outta anything, a 3vs3 match only lasts for a couple minutes at most. Hell, just a warrior and cleric and take on 3 ppl '~,o

[tedtwilliger]

What classifies as a "win"? Could you have all 3 players with force ressing each other? If so if one dies and is ressed again can he still fight? Is the match over when all 3 die at once?

[Crni_Vatreni]

What classifies as a "win"? Could you have all 3 players with force ressing each other? If so if one dies and is ressed again can he still fight? Is the match over when all 3 die at once?

Nah, that would be gay.

Let's say force is allowed. But no ress. Even healing is allowed, as long as it stays between THREE STRICTLY CHINESE lvl90 FF chars

I think this would be a great tournament. Looking for lvl90 FF Bladers @ Babel to team with ;] My bet is bladers not just cuz im one. Nukers do pathetic dmg nowadays to bladers (no offense. See spoiler). I can tank two nukers easily. Most nukers would be dead just by a single kd and 12 stabs. Only a swordman with ironwall can tank it. As for bladers vs other pure str chars, just ironwall until the opponent is down, then again 12 stabs and it's over.

Spoiler!

Nukers vs me

• 90 FF Sun+5 pure int spearman - heux90/light90/cold90 = 14~15k nukes
• 90 FF 85+7 pure int swordman - bich90/fire90/light60/cold60 = 12~14k nukes
  
  Believe it or not. And my defense is not too high. I still got 83+4 hood, 84+4 legs, 85+5 chest, sun 64+7 shield, sun 68+6 necklace. They've crippled ints @ this cap.

[PureStr]

lol,if it was euro obviously cleric/warrior/wizard

no other team can beat that euro or chi, unless its excatly same team

That party would be easy to defeat if lets say there were 3 bladers vs the euro party....The bladers all run at the wizard and use the sword throw thing or w/e and bam wizard is down...they next go after the cleric kill him and then take the warrior out....granted while their taking down the cleric and wiz the warrior will be trying to kill them...but I think since their bladers at least 2 will survive to then have it 2 vs 1 bladers vs warrior
*granted I don't really know how good warriors can or can't be...*shrugs*

I dont think u know much about euros.
A wiz with quota and both fences will not die to three bladers. it would only tickle him.
Especially if the wizz has cleric sub and can cast bless, then get screened by the warrior, then get blessed by the cleric, then of couse get re-screened (ultimate) and just start over the immortality cycle

imo, the best 3 chinese would be 3 int s/s.
lots of kd and damage.

And, since u like quoting in bold:

lol,if its was euro obviously cleric/warrior/wizard

no other team can beat that euro or chi, unless its excatly same team

Ahead sorry for not posting into guilds/babel section, but it's dead over there.

Me was thinkin, after my two buddies get to 90 FF, to make a strictly chinese 3 vs 3 tournament. All lvl 90 FF characters.

What would be the best crew?

My guess is three bladers.

[Crni_Vatreni]

heheheh I like you

@ ur argument, I think s/s would die from bladers :/

[Nixie]

lol,if it was euro obviously cleric/warrior/wizard

no other team can beat that euro or chi, unless its excatly same team

That party would be easy to defeat if lets say there were 3 bladers vs the euro party....The bladers all run at the wizard and use the sword throw thing or w/e and bam wizard is down...they next go after the cleric kill him and then take the warrior out....granted while their taking down the cleric and wiz the warrior will be trying to kill them...but I think since their bladers at least 2 will survive to then have it 2 vs 1 bladers vs warrior
*granted I don't really know how good warriors can or can't be...*shrugs*

I dont think u know much about euros.
A wiz with quota and both fences will not die to three bladers. it would only tickle him.
Especially if the wizz has cleric sub and can cast bless, then get screened by the warrior, then get blessed by the cleric, then of couse get re-screened (ultimate) and just start over the immortality cycle

imo, the best 3 chinese would be 3 int s/s.
lots of kd and damage.

And, since u like quoting in bold:

lol,if its was euro obviously cleric/warrior/wizard

no other team can beat that euro or chi, unless its excatly same team

Ahead sorry for not posting into guilds/babel section, but it's dead over there.

Me was thinkin, after my two buddies get to 90 FF, to make a strictly chinese 3 vs 3 tournament. All lvl 90 FF characters.

What would be the best crew?

My guess is three bladers.

Does this all matter? I think it doesn't. The topic is about Chinese players, so don't start off the CvE in one move topic...

[PureStr]

Does this all matter? I think it doesn't. The topic is about Chinese players, so don't start off the CvE in one move topic...

Sry if i have to be offtopic but:
i think u missed the little part that is ontopic on my post
if you want i can quota myself to show you

[BalkanFanaticS]

lol,if its was euro obviously cleric/warrior/wizard

no other team can beat that euro or chi, unless its excatly same team

FAIL TO READ

[PureStr]

lol,if its was euro obviously cleric/warrior/wizard

no other team can beat that euro or chi, unless its excatly same team

FAIL TO READ

Wow you fail just look at what i put in bold and bigger.
"IF IT WAS EURO" therefore we can conclude that Bizzle KNOWS that the topic starter is talking about chinese chars.
So next time, you read more carefully pls.
Sry to be offtopic again...

[Hustlar]

1 spear nuker to do some big splash damages, and 2 bladers =]

[4reaLz]

hmmm...

2 bladers, 1 glavie whos got a good shield for kd and after ghost spear series.

why?

glavies do alot more damage than bladers do and they can stun, kb. if all 3 atacked one opponent (bladers doing a chain first to let the glavie do some real damage and then kd, 8 stabs) that opponent would of course be dead. then move onto the next and not really have to worry about anything since both builds can tank.

if this was again any int build, even easier. theyll die 2x as fast and with bloody fan storm (i think thats what its called) and the blader skill that gives u a shit load more defense, the nukes wont really do much damage at all

[Shadowfox542]

Ahead sorry for not posting into guilds/babel section, but it's dead over there.

Me was thinkin, after my two buddies get to 90 FF, to make a strictly chinese 3 vs 3 tournament. All lvl 90 FF characters.

What would be the best crew?

My guess is three bladers.

Pure Str force blader that would just try and keep debuffs on them, and heal when needed
Two 7str to 1int hybrid blader, deal a little more damage than a full str, and with heals and impotent you could tank, and use a 30% snow or something.

Go for one at a time, have the force blader choose one, then just debuff and triple KD spam as not a lot of people can tank through a KD+12 stabs with Division/weaken/decay on.

Edit: @ guy who said wiz/cle/war would be an easy team to take down
These are lv90 FF chars, so the warrior should have cleric or warlock sub, and as most on my server are warrior/clerics I think this is how it would go.

Someone says GO:
Cleric uses bless12
Warrior casts Magic/phy screens on the celric, and ultimate on the wizard, and if the cleric is healing, they are now essentially unkillable, and would only be vunerable to absolute damage.
If the battle went for more than 45 seconds, the warrior could use bless, and that would be enough to keep them alive with the clerics buffs+passives and if the cleric lives, then the party will live.

Lv90 wizard with bless12+Ultimate: 2667phy, 4314mag. Thats WITHOUT robes.
Cleric would have: 2794phy 4526mag.

Lv90 wiz with 2667phy+4314mag AND the warrior absorbs which i think is ~60% at cap, and you could use Life turnover and tank no problem at all.

Warrior would be able to use vital increase giving him about 40khp, and just kb people while the wizard kills away.

The only team that could have a chance at this would be a team with 3 cleric/cleric sub people for absolute damage.

My ideal team if we can use euros:
3 90 warriors
They would have screens on at all times, if they just use ultimate then the phy/mag ones when it ran out, would be able to skin+bless, and would not even be killed with absolute unless it was 3 celrics on 1 warrior and they all timed Over+glut+over very well, but that would be nearly impossible with all the KB/D. The strat would be similar to chinese in that you could just KD then hit with triple swing 9 times, or if you used daredevil (Might not work well, long cast time) not a lot can survive 6 hits from that skill.

[DrWicked]

For chinese 2 Bladers 1 Glavie
For euro 3 wizards, imagine 3 earth nukes and boom 3 deaths ^^ and they can always KB

[foudre]

bower+two glaivers i think

galives up front stuning, bows got stun and can KB if they person gets to close. bower can pretty much ranges and not be attacked.

that might work..since while stun..u can't pot at all...and have bower using kb..or stun atks..as well....yet again 3 bladers can spam kd -.-..could go either way

i say 3 bladers all focus on one enemy then move to next they can tank it out and with 3 people pounding ya you aren't going to live long

[Crni_Vatreni]

bower+two glaivers i think

galives up front stuning, bows got stun and can KB if they person gets to close. bower can pretty much ranges and not be attacked.

that might work..since while stun..u can't pot at all...and have bower using kb..or stun atks..as well....yet again 3 bladers can spam kd -.-..could go either way

i say 3 bladers all focus on one enemy then move to next they can tank it out and with 3 people pounding ya you aren't going to live long

Thank you! Exactly what I had in mind.

And please stop discussing euros -.- the worst thing ever happened in sro is cleric.

[MrFudge]

3 fully farmed s/s nukers in armor.
FULL nukers, no bicheon shit.
triple team with that and you can kill everyone as long as you're in vent and choose your targets at the same time. Learned all this from Greece's MMO_Doug watching him pvp.

[Crni_Vatreni]

3 fully farmed s/s nukers in armor.
FULL nukers, no bicheon shit.
triple team with that and you can kill everyone as long as you're in vent and choose your targets at the same time. Learned all this from Greece's MMO_Doug watching him pvp.

I can tank those.

Have u ever played Warcraft III - Frozen throne? U know what I hate in that game? Whenever I'm so close to killing an enemy unit, it automatically starts running away, saving its ass. Then I have to attack another unit. Same principal goes here. Three guys starts pumping me, I phantom back, my guys storm them and when my hp is full, I join the gang bang. I do that all the time. Perfect strategy.

[Puma60]

3 Cleric. All Bless, then all do Offering

[Shadowfox542]

No Euros.

Three force bladers would own though. All pick a debuff cast on a target then kd spam till it dies. Very very few builds can tank through 12 stabs with division/weaken/decay.

[[TS]=Hark=[TS]]

think about it tho, its a 3v3. not a 3v1. theres two other guys there that are ganna be attacking the bladers. say its 2 nukers, both nuke twice and bam one blader down.say theres a bower, he uses KB, that stops 4 of the stabs. stuns mabey, thats another 4 stabs stoped. lets say theres a glaiver. while the bladers are KD 1 person, and a glaver runs up and gssc and mabey gets a KB on two of the bladers. theres so many counters to the 3blader thing.

on a side not: in wow they actaully have 2v2/3v3/5v5 arenas. and the best teams go like this.
2v2: 2dps (altho ms war(1dps 1healz) druid is almost unbeatable)
3v3: 2dps and 1healz (but latly theres been the burst teams 3dps)
5v5: 3dps 2healz

[Shadowfox542]

think about it tho, its a 3v3. not a 3v1. theres two other guys there that are ganna be attacking the bladers. say its 2 nukers, both nuke twice and bam one blader down.say theres a bower, he uses KB, that stops 4 of the stabs. stuns mabey, thats another 4 stabs stoped. lets say theres a glaiver. while the bladers are KD 1 person, and a glaver runs up and gssc and mabey gets a KB on two of the bladers. theres so many counters to the 3blader thing.

on a side not: in wow they actaully have 2v2/3v3/5v5 arenas. and the best teams go like this.
2v2: 2dps (altho ms war(1dps 1healz) druid is almost unbeatable)
3v3: 2dps and 1healz (but latly theres been the burst teams 3dps)
5v5: 3dps 2healz

I suppose, but the team should cast impotent on all enemies, and just go for ints first. I have never actually had a blader, but as far as I know, they can tank 2 nukes.