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what european?

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 11:03 am
by redhunter12
hey guys what european char is good to be a thief at higher lvl??
and who is good at pvp?

Re: what european?

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 11:21 am
by WakingLife
Thief is rogue xD. PvP rogue isnt so bad too if you have good set and know how to play. Try even mixing weapons a little, knock down then switch daggers and etc for pvp. Sub cleric if you wanna be better at PvP. To get in parties level cleric buffs. Also you may pick warrior/cleric its also good, tho not as good as rogue for being a thief.

Re: what european?

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 11:25 am
by Ploxy
hunter is rogue IMO

Re: what european?

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 11:25 am
by redhunter12
WakingLife wrote:Thief is rogue xD. PvP rogue isnt so bad too if you have good set and know how to play. Try even mixing weapons a little, knock down then switch daggers and etc for pvp. Sub cleric if you wanna be better at PvP. To get in parties level cleric buffs. Also you may pick warrior/cleric its also good, tho not as good as rogue for being a thief.

Ok... is it only roque?

Re: what european?

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 11:31 am
by Pham
Rogue xbow is VERY good for theifing. I took in a 5 star with 2 lvl 90 hunters and im 88. Wait for npc thief to spawn, then u attack the int first with xbow from far away(if there is an int) then the str. And while the npc thief spawn, the hunters willl die before they even see you because of npc thief spawns, But warriro for european is best pvp bild.

Re: what european?

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 3:29 pm
by justme08
Rogue or wizard/bard.

Re: what european?

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 3:34 pm
by Priam
Wizard for everything.

Re: what european?

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 4:13 pm
by chesticles
any char is a good thief/hunter/trader.

You just have to know how to play it lolz

Re: what european?

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 4:49 pm
by CloudStrider
Wizard is great.

Hide - Hide - 1 Shot Rogue Hunter - Confusion - 1 Shot Trader - Confusion - Take Goods

Worst case scenario, you get seen, then that depends on you.

Re: what european?

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 4:50 pm
by chesticles
CloudStrider wrote:Wizard is great.

Hide - Hide - 1 Shot Rogue Hunter - Confusion - 1 Shot Trader - Confusion - Take Goods

Worst case scenario, you get seen, then that depends on you.


Almost everyone has that stupid pk2 :banghead:

Re: what european?

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 4:55 pm
by CloudStrider
chesticles wrote:
CloudStrider wrote:Wizard is great.

Hide - Hide - 1 Shot Rogue Hunter - Confusion - 1 Shot Trader - Confusion - Take Goods

Worst case scenario, you get seen, then that depends on you.


Almost everyone has that stupid pk2 :banghead:



Hmmm, maybe you could like behnid a tree or something, I forgot about the p2k/

Re: what european?

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 4:58 pm
by Pham
ya i hate pk2 lol, wish joymax would do something about it.

But we all know joymax, if they are not gona make a profit out of fixing a problem, they will not do it.

Re: what european?

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 5:01 pm
by CloudStrider
Pham wrote:ya i hate pk2 lol, wish joymax would do something about it.

But we all know joymax, if they are not gona make a profit out of fixing a problem, they will not do it.



Fixing it would be hard.

People can manipulate files.

To combat this JM has to make a file type only they can access/change but even then people will crack it then make an app to allow you to change that specific extension easier.

Re: what european?

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 5:11 pm
by chesticles
Fixing it wouldnt be hard at all. All JM has to do is make invis/stealth server sided. There just lazy

Re: what european?

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 5:13 pm
by CloudStrider
chesticles wrote:Fixing it wouldnt be hard at all. All JM has to do is make invis/stealth server sided. There just lazy


Lazy?

Spoiler!

Re: what european?

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 5:54 pm
by pr0klobster
chesticles wrote:any char is a good thief/hunter/trader.

You just have to know how to play it lolz


hehe, enlighten us how a cleric might be a "good" hunter...

Re: what european?

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 5:55 pm
by CloudStrider
pr0klobster wrote:
chesticles wrote:any char is a good thief/hunter/trader.

You just have to know how to play it lolz


hehe, enlighten us how a cleric might be a "good" hunter...




It would be a great hunter, heal the trader and other hunters.

Re: what european?

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 6:06 pm
by selenne
pr0klobster wrote:
chesticles wrote:any char is a good thief/hunter/trader.

You just have to know how to play it lolz


hehe, enlighten us how a cleric might be a "good" hunter...



Prayin to not get pwned, or teachin the thieves the way of truth, light and goodness.

Re: what european?

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 7:38 pm
by pr0klobster
CloudStrider wrote:
pr0klobster wrote:
chesticles wrote:any char is a good thief/hunter/trader.

You just have to know how to play it lolz


hehe, enlighten us how a cleric might be a "good" hunter...




It would be a great hunter, heal the trader and other hunters.


In reality, I have to say that hasn't worked too well for me. Unless you're just kidding...lol

NPC thieves-I can take care of the remnants the other hunters don't get...but the first thing player thieves do is take me out so I can't heal trader/hunters, buff, or res anyone. +27 to str and int makes a big difference, as does ~+130 to phys and +97 to mag defense.

As usual, I wind up just not going on trade runs, or doing my thing as the hated "jobless" cleric. I think I had more fun as a trader.

Re: what european?

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 9:54 pm
by Pham
lmfao cloud that picture is funny.

Re: what european?

Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 12:50 am
by ahmedsabry
selenne wrote:
pr0klobster wrote:
chesticles wrote:any char is a good thief/hunter/trader.

You just have to know how to play it lolz


hehe, enlighten us how a cleric might be a "good" hunter...



Prayin to not get pwned, or teachin the thieves the way of truth, light and goodness.

LMAO :D :D :D :D :D :D

Re: what european?

Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 5:30 pm
by _Creep_
chesticles wrote:any char is a good thief/hunter/trader.

You just have to know how to play it lolz

How warrior can be better at thiefing than rogue explain me please. You have stealth and tag point with rogue, very usefull skills. Its true evry character can be good at thief, but rogue is just meant to be thief.

Re: what european?

Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 5:49 pm
by maxietheboss
CloudStrider wrote:
chesticles wrote:Fixing it wouldnt be hard at all. All JM has to do is make invis/stealth server sided. There just lazy


Lazy?

Spoiler!



All they'd have to implement a MD5 check during the launch. I guess modifying the PK2 would change the MD5 checksum of the file

Re: what european?

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 2:23 am
by foudre
Pham wrote:Rogue xbow is VERY good for theifing. I took in a 5 star with 2 lvl 90 hunters and im 88. Wait for npc thief to spawn, then u attack the int first with xbow from far away(if there is an int) then the str. And while the npc thief spawn, the hunters willl die before they even see you because of npc thief spawns, But warriro for european is best pvp bild.

can't just claim best for pvp build like straight up fights, that only counts for capes, but wars and jobbing include way more then just dmg and tanking, rogues are best pvp if you ask me, hit and run is not cowardly its using your abilities to your advantage to kill superior opponents and multiple opponents, stealth, range, or close range huge and fast dmg, though rogues have most trouble killing bladers and warriors doens't make the warrior better, the rogue can kill more then the warrior solo, they just excell at different ways of fighting. Rogues always have a trick up their sleeve, (of course warrior rogue with speed potion would definitely be most versatile build) a high crit dagger can take out a distracted warrior no problems, expessially if you wait for them to use skin then wait for it to expire, just be prepaired to have to scud cause they can live your first few hits and have a chance to fight back, unlike other builds will be dead almsot instantly if you time your attack right (of course if the rogue is closer to the warrior's lvl they rogue still has the advantage one on one, provided no pk2 is involved, and both have similarly equal gear). Picking the spot for and ambush is also crucial maybe you can kill some one from where you can't be seen in a bush, and able to get back to cover before being seen , or able to kill a 2nd before being seen.