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well title says it all but when it was 80 cap glaivers dominated the server. Now 90 cap glaivers still dominate the server, so what are they looking at for 100 cap? are they going to continue too be strong and dominate?

*** I just want to say before anyones flames or anything that im basing this on what ive seen from my server,

im making a bower and i hope that it dominates.

nope
Even a lvl 90 glaiver +9 glaive in a 84-88 armor set with snowshield died to me, warrior cleric, +5 two hander. pwn.

glaviers get raped... by ALOT of things..

my int nuker with snow shield that that phy defense shield skill
they do lik no damage on me then after that i throw up a (what it called)

ice wall i think i throw that up and bam i can take 5k extra damage and i that time i can own them

bullshit :p glaviers dont pwn, they never did

yes. we will always dominate.

i saw a sun glavie killing a guy full sun set prot and sun bow ; )

DrWicked wrote:i saw a sun glavie killing a guy full sun set prot and sun bow ; )

glaives are better than half the chinese builds. Warrior cleric with tactic still wins usually. final teir +5 armor is as good phys wise as sun garms, so a glaiver in armor that still dies to me every time is kinda sad.

Odd, I never lost to a non-SUN glaive at the 80 cap with my hybrid KD nuker (I didn't have any SUN either). Heck, I've even had jobwars in which I fought 2 of them at the same time (ironwall shield lasted long enough to kill 1 of them).

I have killed force glavier lv 90 FF +7 weap with my friend's xbow lvl 90 FF +7 weap... Its all about vigor/hp grains I've used about 50 hp and 50 vigor for the fight

fckerr wrote:I have killed force glavier lv 90 FF +7 weap with my friend's xbow lvl 90 FF +7 weap... Its all about vigor/hp grains I've used about 50 hp and 50 vigor for the fight

the vigor grains in jangan are EXPENSIVE

Asteroid wrote:

fckerr wrote:I have killed force glavier lv 90 FF +7 weap with my friend's xbow lvl 90 FF +7 weap... Its all about vigor/hp grains I've used about 50 hp and 50 vigor for the fight

the vigor grains in jangan are EXPENSIVE

Then buy them in Donwhang/Hotan/Samarkand/Constantinople ^^

kthnxbai wrote:bullshit :p glaviers dont pwn, they never did

+1
pwning is a rogues job

the_wicked wrote:

DrWicked wrote:i saw a sun glavie killing a guy full sun set prot and sun bow ; )

glaives are better than half the chinese builds. Warrior cleric with tactic still wins usually. final teir +5 armor is as good phys wise as sun garms, so a glaiver in armor that still dies to me every time is kinda sad.

your fighting a gimp glaiver
gimp as in wearing armor for pure str he must be 1:1 2:1 or some bullsht

the_wicked wrote:

DrWicked wrote:i saw a sun glavie killing a guy full sun set prot and sun bow ; )

glaives are better than half the chinese builds. Warrior cleric with tactic still wins usually. final teir +5 armor is as good phys wise as sun garms, so a glaiver in armor that still dies to me every time is kinda sad.

I dunno who u pvp with but that guy must be a noob.. most of 2h that i pvp lose and im glavier ; )

this is pointless. Everyone will say their build own and btw..i have never lose to an chinese int in pvp before and i'm a full str glavier. Full str with 20 or 25% snow on will kill most int.

well me i dont have build because i dont play this game anymore but at 80 cap in eldorado Bulliej with +9 glavie tanked two nukers s/s with snow shield one lvl 75 the other one full farmed lvl 80 with sword +7 and shield +7 he was keep stuning kb till they ran out from snow shield then they died

4reaLz wrote:yes. we will always dominate.

no, you never did dominate xD*

on our server are glaivers can tank 10+ people all going for that char, euros cant purely becuase they get raped by so many attacks. We seem to have glaivers with 90 wep 80 ice 90 fire 40 light and there tanking against multiple people is insane. its funny to watch a whole guild chase a glaiver and not be able to kill him fast.

Anyone can tank with a pure STR if they know how to use it; I've tanked an 8-man pt with my warrior/cleric before, it's not THAT hard, but you do have to play your character smart.

No one single build has dominated over all other builds. It's not the character, it's the person playing it. If you know the limits of your build and character, you should know what to do, and when to do it.

ahmedsabry wrote:

kthnxbai wrote:bullshit :p glaviers dont pwn, they never did

+1
pwning is a rogues job

Simple as that

IC3 wrote:well title says it all but when it was 80 cap glaivers dominated the server. Now 90 cap glaivers still dominate the server, so what are they looking at for 100 cap? are they going to continue too be strong and dominate?

*** I just want to say before anyones flames or anything that im basing this on what ive seen from my server,

glaive dosnt dominate, gears donmiante, build really dosnt matter as long as its not fulll str nuker or full int tanker. I seen almost every build get rape by another.

Pham wrote:glaive doesn't dominate, gears dominate, build really doesn't matter as long as it's not full str nuker or full int tanker. I seen almost every build get raped by another.

Yup, nowadays gear plays a heavier role than earlier level caps. I've beaten every build, and I've gotten owned by every build.

BaronSengir wrote:

the_wicked wrote:

DrWicked wrote:i saw a sun glavie killing a guy full sun set prot and sun bow ; )

glaives are better than half the chinese builds. Warrior cleric with tactic still wins usually. final teir +5 armor is as good phys wise as sun garms, so a glaiver in armor that still dies to me every time is kinda sad.

your fighting a gimp glaiver
gimp as in wearing armor for pure str he must be 1:1 2:1 or some bullsht

No, he was fighting a pure str glaive. I witnessed the whole fight, his tactics are unbeatable.

ahmedsabry wrote:

kthnxbai wrote:bullshit :p glaviers dont pwn, they never did

+1
pwning is a rogues job

+1

the_wicked wrote:nope
Even a lvl 90 glaiver +9 glaive in a 84-88 armor set with snowshield died to me, warrior cleric, +5 two hander. pwn.

Ive also seen the Warlock / Warrior work well also. Just load em up with status effects, he cant even move, then a few hits with a 1-h, not to mention all of the KD & KB... dead.

<Insert Your Build> owns all!, they are one of the most common build for a reason though.
I win about 95% of my pvp,thats all I care. In the end gear and tactic is what truly dominates.

One thing ONLY which makes or breaks ur char, is YOU!
Only skill is what matters.

Built properly, i would say Bow was the most dominant STR based chinese build (too specific?).
Overall, 2H warrior / Cleric i think is best.