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Bow VS Bow...
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 6:02 pm
by Ploxy
Same lvl, NPC gair and weapon.
The 1st Bow is PURE STR Light 90, Fire 90, Pacheon 90 and ice 30.
The 2nd Bow is PURE STR Light 90, FORCE 90 Pacheon 90 and ice 30
both wearing garment NPC and NPC weapon
Which one is better??
Re: Bow VS Bow...
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 6:04 pm
by Voluptas
Why 90 light and not fire for the second one?
Fire would give extra damage and mag defence.
Change that to fire instead of light, and the 2nd one would win.
Re: Bow VS Bow...
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 6:06 pm
by Phaidra
90 Fire 90 Ice 90 Pach 30 Light would win. My build =p
Re: Bow VS Bow...
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 6:06 pm
by Blurred
Voluptas wrote:Why 90 light and not fire for the second one?
Fire would give extra damage and mag defence.
Change that to fire instead of light, and the 2nd one would win.
Agreed.
Re: Bow VS Bow...
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 6:08 pm
by Saberdude
The one with SOX gear would won ..
Re: Bow VS Bow...
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 6:09 pm
by Phaidra
Saberdude wrote:The one with SOX gear would won ..
He said NPC garments.
Re: Bow VS Bow...
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 6:10 pm
by Saberdude
Phaidra wrote:Saberdude wrote:The one with SOX gear would won ..
He said NPC garments.
oops sorry
I didn't read the whole thing >_>
Re: Bow VS Bow...
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 6:11 pm
by Phaidra
Anyway, maybe either could win. personally if I'm going to PvP I'll always buy the puri pills to end any status put on me, In my opinion that would give me advantage over the force user.
Re: Bow VS Bow...
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 6:14 pm
by Ploxy
Voluptas wrote:Why 90 light and not fire for the second one?
Fire would give extra damage and mag defence.
Change that to fire instead of light, and the 2nd one would win.
why fire?? i wanna move fast and i will need phantom walk
Re: Bow VS Bow...
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 6:17 pm
by Phaidra
Ploxy wrote:Voluptas wrote:Why 90 light and not fire for the second one?
Fire would give extra damage and mag defence.
Change that to fire instead of light, and the 2nd one would win.
why fire?? i wanna move fast and i will need phantom walk
1: The strongest Imbue
2: Fire Shield
3: Flame Body Trial (Phy damage 9% increase)
4: Earth Fire protection
5: The passive (Another 9% Phy damage increase)
If you choose speed over these you should evaluate yourself. I still have 38% moving speed at 30 Light and if i job etc I'll buy a 100%.
Speed Isn't everything. I miss Phantom and it came in useful but It's not the end of the world.
If you wanted to keep phantom go 90 fire 70 ice 50 light 90 pach
Re: Bow VS Bow...
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 6:21 pm
by JesusLOL
A pure STR without fire would die to every int build, also you would do alot less damage. Any STR build without Fire sucks. The force bower would win if the enemy doesn't use pills, if he has pills it's basically a pot fight, unless they both don't use the gay kb skill.
Re: Bow VS Bow...
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 6:23 pm
by Ploxy
ok i agreed.
Which armor should i use Garment or Protector?
Re: Bow VS Bow...
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 6:29 pm
by Saberdude
Ploxy wrote:ok i agreed.
Which armor should i use Garment or Protector?
since ur going pure str,
pick garment.
Re: Bow VS Bow...
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 6:33 pm
by emperor3000
Ploxy wrote:Voluptas wrote:Why 90 light and not fire for the second one?
Fire would give extra damage and mag defence.
Change that to fire instead of light, and the 2nd one would win.
why fire?? i wanna move fast and i will need phantom walk
Umm... want to move fast?
get some drugs and use'em

Re: Bow VS Bow...
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 6:34 pm
by Saberdude
emperor3000 wrote:Ploxy wrote:Voluptas wrote:Why 90 light and not fire for the second one?
Fire would give extra damage and mag defence.
Change that to fire instead of light, and the 2nd one would win.
why fire?? i wanna move fast and i will need phantom walk
Umm... want to move fast?
get some drugs and use'em

Not everyone is rich....
Re: Bow VS Bow...
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 6:38 pm
by Ploxy
emperor3000 wrote:Ploxy wrote:Voluptas wrote:Why 90 light and not fire for the second one?
Fire would give extra damage and mag defence.
Change that to fire instead of light, and the 2nd one would win.
why fire?? i wanna move fast and i will need phantom walk
Umm... want to move fast?
get some drugs and use'em

i gonna start this archer in gaia
Re: Bow VS Bow...
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 9:02 pm
by NuclearSilo
Blurred wrote:Voluptas wrote:Why 90 light and not fire for the second one?
Fire would give extra damage and mag defence.
Change that to fire instead of light, and the 2nd one would win.
Agreed.
Just answer his question. Why do u have to distort his question? ffs
No one will win if they spam KB
From lvl 100, killing a pure int is a piece of cake. Just spam KB ulti their MS run out. And wear protector/armor from that cap.
Cap 140, maybe archer skills is str-based. But i always beleive that a bowman without light is not a bowman. U'll lose all the meaning of having a far range and keeping distance. Str fire bowman, strong, but is still a slow ass dead meat. Once the enemies approach, it's dead. Maybe he can KB, but can only KB 1 target, so str fire bow can only apply in pvp. And since u having more advantage in survibility so u can go hybrid. Also, bow weapon is meant to be hybrid.
Re: Bow VS Bow...
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 1:31 am
by Blurred
NuclearSilo wrote:Blurred wrote:Voluptas wrote:Why 90 light and not fire for the second one?
Fire would give extra damage and mag defence.
Change that to fire instead of light, and the 2nd one would win.
Agreed.
Just answer his question. Why do u have to distort his question? ffs
No one will win if they spam KB
From lvl 100, killing a pure int is a piece of cake. Just spam KB ulti their MS run out. And wear protector/armor from that cap.
Cap 140, maybe archer skills is str-based. But i always beleive that a bowman without light is not a bowman. U'll lose all the meaning of having a far range and keeping distance. Str fire bowman, strong, but is still a slow ass dead meat. Once the enemies approach, it's dead. Maybe he can KB, but can only KB 1 target, so str fire bow can only apply in pvp. And since u having more advantage in survibility so u can go hybrid. Also, bow weapon is meant to be hybrid.
I just agreed with him. Don't get your period out.
Re: Bow VS Bow...
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 2:02 am
by Adroanzi
Phaidra wrote:90 Fire 90 Ice 90 Pach 30 Light would win. My build =p
Mine too! *High Five*
Winner would depend on lucky crits I guess..
Re: Bow VS Bow...
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 3:59 am
by Braka
Adroanzi wrote:Phaidra wrote:90 Fire 90 Ice 90 Pach 30 Light would win. My build =p
Mine too! *High Five*
Winner would depend on lucky crits I guess..
lies bow/force/fire/90 cold/30 would win my build

Re: Bow VS Bow...
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 4:01 am
by Qosta420
Blurred wrote:Voluptas wrote:Why 90 light and not fire for the second one?
Fire would give extra damage and mag defence.
Change that to fire instead of light, and the 2nd one would win.
Agreed.
these guys know what they are talking about =P. but yeah. Force bow could debuff both defensively and offensively. resulting in realy weak hits from the opponent bowman and realy hard hits from the force bower.