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Joymax's Weakness

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 4:09 pm
by xAnyeongx
Alright ladies and gents, most of us should have figured out by now why player bots aren't getting banned in mass scales. A lot of skeptics think it has to do with buying silk, some think it's bs and I wonder why those few think that, after all the ban lists and even after blatant proof of them buying premiums they still don't get banned. I think it's about time those few remaining people get their heads out of the dirt and realize it's true now.

Joymax will not ban any user with silk history, especially those that have 3000+ silk charged. You want to know why? It's not just because they bought silk from them, no no. It's because of another undeniable fact, they DO NOT want you to chargeback them and if you do chargeback them they have no choice but to block you for chargeback and refund you after two days. I will state this here now that you can chargeback them as far back as 2006, and still get your refunds. I know people say that after 45-60 days you can't do it, but at least from my own personal experience with paypal, you still can.

I know this little topic is going to start turning some heads, might even be a little irresponsible on my part to divulge such information, but hey, money is money, whether you botted or not, if you got banned and spent loads of silk and by some miracle you got banned, you should be able to get a refund for all of it.

Now you know Joymax's age old weakness for many years, have fun with it.

Re: Joymax's Weakness

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 4:11 pm
by Disconn3cted
yes I've been thinking of this for a while but I think joymax would ban them if they haven't purchased silk for 45 days since chargeback wouldn't be possible after that, maybe someone should test it?

Re: Joymax's Weakness

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 4:12 pm
by Nitro
Okay ... thanks for sharing that.

Re: Joymax's Weakness

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 4:17 pm
by blackfalcon
umm theres been alot of people who buy silk who got banned, so i dont see how ur post is true?

Re: Joymax's Weakness

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 4:20 pm
by .Higinia
So what's the criteria for people who don't buy silk who are banned then?

Because me and 2 friends both made new accounts and characters.

I have a laptop so I ran it from a laptop and then my desktop.

I powerleveled the three of us from Level 1 - Level 24, 27, and 30.

and yet my level 24 got banned.

wtf is this.

=Edit=

For the record, I bought a lottttt of silk on my higher account.
Close to 3000 a month.
Never bought anything on my low level.

=Edit= Again
Now time for a test.
Do exactly what I did before, but buy like $5 worth of silk on my low char.

Re: Joymax's Weakness

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 5:03 pm
by _Creep_
blackfalcon wrote:umm theres been alot of people who buy silk who got banned, so i dont see how ur post is true?

Show 1 guy who had silk and he is banned. Dont show guys that did charge back.

Re: Joymax's Weakness

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 5:17 pm
by F-22
sometimes joymax ban people for using testerone, you dont have to bot to get banned. i know a couple of people use testerone to log in and stall and their stallers got banned. The stallers' name was not on the bot ban list, but when you log in it will tell you that your account has been banned for using illegal programs(bot,testerone,anti-steath/invis,etc)

Re: Joymax's Weakness

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 5:23 pm
by quas
_Creep_ wrote:
blackfalcon wrote:umm theres been alot of people who buy silk who got banned, so i dont see how ur post is true?

Show 1 guy who had silk and he is banned. Dont show guys that did charge back.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=4DafbbB3fro
found it a couple of weeks ago...
have to continue the argument with this moron...
hes so shocked that hes a silk buyer that got banned...

Re: Joymax's Weakness

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 6:02 pm
by Knight_Ange1
Are you guys just realizing this? -_-;;

Re: Joymax's Weakness

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 6:11 pm
by oKim4tsuL
FACT: you can get banned for botting even when you did buy silk.

well.. hmm..
i think that like.. GM will bann you if you like.. piss off the whole server. =p
or like.. tell the whole server that you bot N' possibly a random GM is in your server dicking around heard it.

because.. i have a friend who got banned from xian [hErooooooo]
he bought a shiit load of silk and still got banned.
he eventually got his account unbanned :P then he pissed off the whole server
and then got his account banned agian. :D
-he wasn't afraid to say that he was a botter lmao.

so.. using my friend as an example.. i think my theories have some backbone

Re: Joymax's Weakness

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 6:37 pm
by MiKe 51-50
lilaznboyz / pompom / not to be / simplysimple had his original lilaznboyz banned which had 3000+ silk on it, tho he was banned for cussing out the gm's he still botted.

Re: Joymax's Weakness

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 7:08 pm
by JesusLOL
quas wrote:
_Creep_ wrote:
blackfalcon wrote:umm theres been alot of people who buy silk who got banned, so i dont see how ur post is true?

Show 1 guy who had silk and he is banned. Dont show guys that did charge back.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=4DafbbB3fro
found it a couple of weeks ago...
have to continue the argument with this moron...
hes so shocked that hes a silk buyer that got banned...


Show me a 90 botter that had silk and got banned. :)

http://www.rev6.com/guild.asp?guild=ven_gt

Which chars are not banned in this guild yet? Oh, the one with prem displayed. :wink:

Re: Joymax's Weakness

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:03 pm
by Smuggster
Guys let's not complain that they do not ban all bots,at least they keep the servers clean,we can levelup in peace,spots are everywhere,no more goldbots and they STILL get alot of cash because high levels always buy Premium Plus because it is the only way they can get 5 hours of 100% exp bonus! That's why they do not make some normal gold ticket plus with 5 hours,you need to buy the premium to have that !


sorry for my english,i hope is understandable !

Re: Joymax's Weakness

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:31 pm
by Crumpets
Anyeong, remember this guy from your Olympus time?

http://www.rev6.com/player.asp?id=211374

Yeah, he maxxxxed out his 3k limit for a nice year. This guy was top of Olympus for a long ass time, bought sun sold it for £.


Dissproves your theory m8.

Re: Joymax's Weakness

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:23 pm
by BalkanFanaticS
Crumpets wrote:Anyeong, remember this guy from your Olympus time?

http://www.rev6.com/player.asp?id=211374

Yeah, he maxxxxed out his 3k limit for a nice year. This guy was top of Olympus for a long ass time, bought sun sold it for £.


Dissproves your theory m8.


an acc of mine got banned too with 3k silk history THO i didnt charge silk in the last 6months [gives me a feeling they feel themselfs safe after 90 days after cuz u cant chargeback then]

thats even worse cuz they want u to KEEP buying silk

Re: Joymax's Weakness

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:56 pm
by Nitro
BalkanFanaticS wrote: thats even worse cuz they want u to KEEP buying silk


Now seriously ... you are overreacting ... Please ... just please STFU.
You are making sooo much theories that are nonsense!

They ban your account because you dont buy Silk?
They ban your account because you dont keep on buying Silk?

NO! They ban your account because this forum is f.ucking crowded with botters who are acting legit and making theories why their characters got banned. After they get banned they start crying how they did nothing wrong ... "F_ck JM , F_ck Mather" ...well guys F_CK YOU!

I'm sick of you guys like you seriously.


How come noone from Preatorians (Legit guild) got banned?
How come Fly , NB , Guardia and crew from Avalon didnt get banned?

You guys know , who got banned ... they banned you for reason, you know yourself , that you were using third party programs.

Re: Joymax's Weakness

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:09 pm
by JesusLOL
Nitro wrote:
BalkanFanaticS wrote: thats even worse cuz they want u to KEEP buying silk


Now seriously ... you are overreacting ... Please ... just please STFU.
You are making sooo much theories that are nonsense!

They ban your account because you dont buy Silk?
They ban your account because you dont keep on buying Silk?

NO! They ban your account because this forum is f.ucking crowded with botters who are acting legit and making theories why their characters got banned. After they get banned they start crying how they did nothing wrong ... "F_ck JM , F_ck Mather" ...well guys F_CK YOU!

I'm sick of you guys like you seriously.


How come noone from Preatorians (Legit guild) got banned?
How come Fly , NB , Guardia and crew from Avalon didnt get banned?

You guys know , who got banned ... they banned you for reason, you know yourself , that you were using third party programs.


from what I know a mod from here got banned, apparently he wasn't botting, and didn't had silk, also Fly got banned on xian long time ago for botting, so 8) Also NB / Fly / Guardia charged silk in the last days/weeks/months I'm sure, and they dont ban high lvl player bots, hence you will never see a lvl 90 there.

Re: Joymax's Weakness

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:15 pm
by xAnyeongx
Crumpets wrote:Anyeong, remember this guy from your Olympus time?

http://www.rev6.com/player.asp?id=211374

Yeah, he maxxxxed out his 3k limit for a nice year. This guy was top of Olympus for a long ass time, bought sun sold it for £.


Dissproves your theory m8.


Would be nice if you knew what kind of payment method he used, and did he by any silk last month before he got banned?

Re: Joymax's Weakness

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:17 pm
by Nitro
from what I know a mod from here got banned

If he is mod , doesnt mean he is something special, he is the same as we are, we cant know if he used Loader , or didnt ... his word > everything, because we have no proof ... But I know some mods and ex mods who used third party programs / got powerleveled by bot...
Fly got banned on xian long time ago for botting


Okay ... he was botting ... I wasnt talking about Fly when he was on Xian , I'm talking about Fly on Venus.

hence you will never see a lvl 90 there.

Didnt we see lv.9x already on bot list?

Re: Joymax's Weakness

Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:13 am
by CHIPS
So basically what people here are saying is that if a botter:

1) Buys Silk
2) Keep things to himself (do not global chat about he botting)
3) Do not make too many enemies (someone might send an email to Joymax)

he should be free to bot.

I am not sure this is true or not. It does make sense tho. But my guess is that a number of people here that said they are legit and got banned isn't legit.

Anyways, I think the #1 banning priority for Joymax are gold bots. They add nothing to the game except ruining the economy. And they always crowed the servers.

Re: Joymax's Weakness

Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:31 am
by Twist
Nitro wrote:
from what I know a mod from here got banned

If he is mod , doesnt mean he is something special, he is the same as we are, we cant know if he used Loader , or didnt ... his word > everything, because we have no proof ... But I know some mods and ex mods who used third party programs / got powerleveled by bot...
Fly got banned on xian long time ago for botting


Okay ... he was botting ... I wasnt talking about Fly when he was on Xian , I'm talking about Fly on Venus.

hence you will never see a lvl 90 there.

Didnt we see lv.9x already on bot list?

yeap.

Re: Joymax's Weakness

Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:34 am
by Ichimaru420
Crumpets wrote:Anyeong, remember this guy from your Olympus time?

http://www.rev6.com/player.asp?id=211374

Yeah, he maxxxxed out his 3k limit for a nice year. This guy was top of Olympus for a long ass time, bought sun sold it for £.


Dissproves your theory m8.

yeh I wonderd where I remembered her from musta been Olympus he/she was like the faster leveler on that server for a awhile...though my crappy 2x acc there musta been deleted ages ago.

Re: Joymax's Weakness

Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:35 am
by _Creep_
Nitro wrote:
from what I know a mod from here got banned

If he is mod , doesnt mean he is something special, he is the same as we are, we cant know if he used Loader , or didnt ... his word > everything, because we have no proof ... But I know some mods and ex mods who used third party programs / got powerleveled by bot...
Fly got banned on xian long time ago for botting


Okay ... he was botting ... I wasnt talking about Fly when he was on Xian , I'm talking about Fly on Venus.

hence you will never see a lvl 90 there.

Didnt we see lv.9x already on bot list?

Once botter always botter so stop talking about stupid avalon and how they are legit, thats Bull shit.

All I know that my character was banned 18 lvl without reason.

Re: Joymax's Weakness

Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:40 am
by JesusLOL
Nitro wrote:
from what I know a mod from here got banned

If he is mod , doesnt mean he is something special, he is the same as we are, we cant know if he used Loader , or didnt ... his word > everything, because we have no proof ... But I know some mods and ex mods who used third party programs / got powerleveled by bot...
Fly got banned on xian long time ago for botting


Okay ... he was botting ... I wasnt talking about Fly when he was on Xian , I'm talking about Fly on Venus.

hence you will never see a lvl 90 there.

Didnt we see lv.9x already on bot list?


Link to the lvl 90? :)

Re: Joymax's Weakness

Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:40 am
by Twist
_Creep_ wrote:
Nitro wrote:
from what I know a mod from here got banned

If he is mod , doesnt mean he is something special, he is the same as we are, we cant know if he used Loader , or didnt ... his word > everything, because we have no proof ... But I know some mods and ex mods who used third party programs / got powerleveled by bot...
Fly got banned on xian long time ago for botting


Okay ... he was botting ... I wasnt talking about Fly when he was on Xian , I'm talking about Fly on Venus.

hence you will never see a lvl 90 there.

Didnt we see lv.9x already on bot list?

Once botter always botter so stop talking about stupid avalon and how they are legit, thats Bull shit.

All I know that my character was banned 18 lvl without reason.


Creep,who are you?Are you just retarded,or your stupid and retarded?You dont know shit,so shut your fakking mouth,because you are full of crap,when Avalon played on Xian you werent even born,u fail at life.Ignoring prick...

Re: Joymax's Weakness

Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:57 am
by Detective
So this thread is telling us to buy silk and bot? And it's not even a "weakness", it's just a FACT they want to keep their paying customers that's all.

I'm just happy they kept banning the gold bots so now much much more players are playing, the pvp, job suit activity has been so high in recent weeks that I'm pleased enough the way it is going now :)

Re: Joymax's Weakness

Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:34 am
by TOloseGT
sro failed after they implemented item mall

Re: Joymax's Weakness

Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 5:24 am
by Krushrpants
CHIPS wrote:Anyways, I think the #1 banning priority for Joymax are gold bots. They add nothing to the game except ruining the economy. And they always crowed the servers.


And I'm pretty sure they've shown that they ARE in fact, targeting goldbots. Other people just happen to be caught in the mix.

Re: Joymax's Weakness

Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 10:07 am
by Crumpets
xAnyeongx wrote:
Would be nice if you knew what kind of payment method he used, and did he by any silk last month before he got banned?


Paypal,

These guys were like, legit till 70 fully legit.

But then 80 came out, and the sun dropped .. started botting. Anyways, these guys have been inactive for some time. As you see they came back forthe 90 cap .. but got banned.

Re: Joymax's Weakness

Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 10:56 am
by sama98b
Depends on bank that paypal is linked to
Can charge them back to any date.