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How do u grind and pvp?
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:09 pm
by Jaapii
In movies on youtube I see ppl spamming skills like a mad man.
I don't understand that, I use all my skills 1 by 1, even when I'm pvping.
So my question is: How do u grind and pvp? u spam skills or u do it organised ?
Re: How do u grind and pvp?
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:10 pm
by Nitro
Like someone is going to click "I spam skillz , I'm retard".
Re: How do u grind and pvp?
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:12 pm
by Azilius
Sometimes the 'spam' you see in youtube vids are actually macros. Personally I'd rather use my skills one at a time incase I crit at a certain time..yada yada.
Re: How do u grind and pvp?
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 9:16 pm
by wootpops
i mash my imbue + the current skill when thats halfway done i switch to my next skill. and keep on mashing.
Re: How do u grind and pvp?
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 9:20 pm
by /Pi
Depends on the build. There are some that do not require that much thinking due to the lack of diversity in skills, such as Wizards. For them on the basic level, it's either AoE or not. You can raise the complexity if you want, such as which AoE's to do first (usually the ice one to slow down the mobs, or the earth one for dull), etc.
"In PvP, should I cast Fear first? What happens when it doesn't work? Should I use the light kb skill? Do I even have to bother with this? I can just use meteor right?"
Re: How do u grind and pvp?
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 10:04 pm
by mkzr
Well since im a nuker:
Step 1: Swap to F3 and cast imbue,lightning chain and stone smash
Step 2: If bleed + Division are on, i Swap to F2 and do KD+Stab
Step 3: I nuke his ass off with Flame wave Hellfire, if he still alive i do flame wave Wide.
Step 4: If no Bleed + Division i swap back to F3 and repeat everything till enemy is dead^^
Re: How do u grind and pvp?
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 10:44 pm
by MixTape
First i try to stun them with soul spear soul & emperor once they are stunned i try to dull them, and than i finish them off with storm cloud , if they didnt die, i just repeat the whole process (most of the times i dont need to repeat it
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Re: How do u grind and pvp?
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 11:09 pm
by Da_Realest
PvE
2 Dot + nuke. Life leech when necessary and debuff giants.
PvP
Stun first. If it fails I use sleep to interrupt their attack. I cast 2 DoTs, dusk armor, debuff then nuke. If I get knocked down or stunned, when I am able to move again I stun and use life leech. If that doesn't happen I nuke again. If I am low on hp and life leech and/or stun is cooldown, I use shield trash to give me room. Repeat the process until they are dead.
If the opponent is using ice wall, I cast 2 DoTs and get out of their attacking range. If they become effected by dull and bleed, I go back into attack range and fight them. If they are not a bow user, I just nuke them from a distance.
If they are a rogue, they will always attack with prick. I stun them before it lands, 2 DoTs + nuke = dead rogue if they are in DD. If not, debuff and fight like anymore else.
If the person is stronger, stun first. Then I use life leech to cause disease status. Next, I debuff them then bloody trap + sleep. I cast 2 DoTs and then nuke them until they are dead. If they wake up, stun or shield trash and recast bloody trap + sleep.
Re: How do u grind and pvp?
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 11:16 pm
by Pham
Da_Realest wrote:
If they are a rogue, they will always attack with prick. I stun them before it lands, 2 DoTs + nuke = dead rogue if they are in DD. If not, debuff and fight like anymore else.
nope some rogues use crossbow, and attack with distant shot
Re: How do u grind and pvp?
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 11:31 pm
by Burningwolf
Da_Realest wrote: bloody trap + sleep.
dont u just love this lol
*shhh* dont say why
Re: How do u grind and pvp?
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 11:37 pm
by RogueKiller
1 by 1 for pvp.
1 by 1 and spam for grinding. Depends on the type of mob.
Re: How do u grind and pvp?
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 11:52 pm
by XMoshe
Well I pvp often on a friend's glaive char and yeah I spam the skills abit cuz it's SSS/windless spear/imbue untill I think I can either finish him off and crit and then finish him off, then I do GSM.
But on other chars (like a bower/warlock etc) I do it 1 at a time.
Re: How do u grind and pvp?
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:02 am
by Verfo
spam keys ftw
edit: for chineese
Re: How do u grind and pvp?
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:14 am
by Da_Realest
Pham wrote:Da_Realest wrote:
If they are a rogue, they will always attack with prick. I stun them before it lands, 2 DoTs + nuke = dead rogue if they are in DD. If not, debuff and fight like anymore else.
nope some rogues use crossbow, and attack with distant shot
Not the ones I fought... They assume that since I'm pure int they can get in close and just prick me for an easy kill or a high crit.
Re: How do u grind and pvp?
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:22 am
by TheDrop
PvE: Fire Imbue + Strongbow + arrow combo, then click another mob, Fire Imbue + Berserker Arrow + Anti Devil. Repeat. I dont know if its spamming but it kinda is
PvP: Not really button mashing, except for my imbue. Also, if im using Ice Imbue, i usually use Arrow Combo as fast as its cool down finishes (for freeze or frostbite). if i get a succesful frostbite/freeze i go on with Strongbow. if not i usually use anti devil. if im using Fire i usually spam
. But thats cause most of my skills dont have a side effect, so i cant do anything else.
Re: How do u grind and pvp?
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:28 am
by Pham
Da_Realest wrote:Pham wrote:Da_Realest wrote:
If they are a rogue, they will always attack with prick. I stun them before it lands, 2 DoTs + nuke = dead rogue if they are in DD. If not, debuff and fight like anymore else.
nope some rogues use crossbow, and attack with distant shot
Not the ones I fought... They assume that since I'm pure int they can get in close and just prick me for an easy kill or a high crit.
thats retarded rogues, if your int, they should do quick attacks so u dont even have time to react, the combos rogues do are fast and they can kil u before u can do anything if your an wizard. i think u are fighting noobs lol.
Re: How do u grind and pvp?
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:44 am
by Crowley
Always very organized, I use one skill after another, and don't slam my keyboard like a retard.
Re: How do u grind and pvp?
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:54 am
by Da_Realest
Pham wrote:hats retarded rogues, if your int, they should do quick attacks so u dont even have time to react, the combos rogues do are fast and they can kil u before u can do anything if your an wizard. i think u are fighting noobs lol.
They don't use combos until they finally realize that trying to prick me won't work. Usually takes 2 or 3 deaths for them to realize that.
Re: How do u grind and pvp?
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 1:23 am
by Pham
Da_Realest wrote:Pham wrote:hats retarded rogues, if your int, they should do quick attacks so u dont even have time to react, the combos rogues do are fast and they can kil u before u can do anything if your an wizard. i think u are fighting noobs lol.
They don't use combos until they finally realize that trying to prick me won't work. Usually takes 2 or 3 deaths for them to realize that.
yes. hence why i call them noobs
Re: How do u grind and pvp?
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 1:26 am
by /Pi
@Da_Realest: Quick question: what do you do when your opponent has Holy Word on?
Re: How do u grind and pvp?
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 1:29 am
by raysisfenix
guys, do u look at skill bar when u use any of the skills or you just look at your character specifically and what u r fighting?
Re: How do u grind and pvp?
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 2:22 am
by the_wicked
warrior cleric has no room to spam, you need to be precise or you die.
Re: How do u grind and pvp?
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 2:22 am
by Pham
raysisfenix wrote:guys, do u look at skill bar when u use any of the skills or you just look at your character specifically and what u r fighting?
i grind wit my eyes closed, asian arts
Re: How do u grind and pvp?
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 2:23 am
by TOloseGT
1 by 1 pvp, 1 by 1 grind
Re: How do u grind and pvp?
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 2:26 am
by Da_Realest
Prophet Izaach wrote:@Da_Realest: Quick question: what do you do when your opponent has Holy Word on?
Stun. Use the 2 DoTs that causes bleed and dull. Then cast panic and dusk armor. I would fight them like anyone else except the fight would probably last longer. DoTs alone do enough damage to keep the average opponent from potting off my weak nukes. With panic, the opponent can't even pot off DoT damage.
Re: How do u grind and pvp?
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 2:28 am
by huejas
weres the "Bot" option
lol
wootpops wrote:i mash my imbue + the current skill when thats halfway done i switch to my next skill. and keep on mashing.
this is kinda how i pvp but with strategy(waiting for crits, kb when necessary...)
For grinding its pretty much 1=Imbune so 1,2,3,1,4,5(2,3,4,5=all dif skills)and cycle