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Screw Alchemy with a giant Cactus...

Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 4:43 pm
by Goseki
After like 30 master stones which ALL FREAKIN FAILED, I got dur 120% on the last one. Unfortunately, that last one also screwed up the crit from a nice 10 to an 8. Thnk-god it didn't mess up the mag attk 80% or I'd destroy the dam thing.

Is it even possible to go UP with att assimilation? I'm pretty sure all of them have made my stats go down. Even had str go from 5-1.

This still isn't too bad though is it? Image

I'm pure int so should I risk messing with crit now? Or is 8 good? Actually how is crit calculated? Even with a crit 12 sword the number of crits i saw only increased a little or not at all.

Re: Screw Alchemy with a giant Cactus...

Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 4:46 pm
by Inuyasha584
your nuker! crit doesn't mater when your nuking.................................................................................................................

Re: Screw Alchemy with a giant Cactus...

Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 4:47 pm
by KillAndChill
Yea, you can assimilate up. I have had str go from 1-5 and others go up.

Re: Screw Alchemy with a giant Cactus...

Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 4:52 pm
by TOloseGT
crits depend on luck, it hardly matter if u have 8 or 12 crit. the crit after 7 is just a nice number that makes the price go up.

Re: Screw Alchemy with a giant Cactus...

Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 5:00 pm
by Goseki
Yes I'm nuker, but my main trees will be Light and Bicheon, and I enjoy KD and crit 1-shot wizards. So crit does matter a little. ( just a tiny bit ;) )

Anyways, if the number is just pretty after 7, than why is it worth so much. I've seen glaivers with a high crit hit crits one right after the other >_>

So is it because I'm pure int that I don't crit often with my sword? I'm pretty sure i've seen bladers crit wayyy more often than me. Or is it cuz I always have shitty crit that are less than 10.

Re: Screw Alchemy with a giant Cactus...

Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 5:04 pm
by TOloseGT
sorry, i take back my statement. it isn't just a nice number, it's also an increase of 1/100 chance each plus of the crit. make of it what u will. u can keep trying, and u'll prolly land on lucky number 12 sooner or later. it's ur money after all.

Re: Screw Alchemy with a giant Cactus...

Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 5:05 pm
by Backfire
Durability isn't even a problem... My pots run out before my durability does -.-. W/e dura goes to on first stone is wat i keep normally

Re: Screw Alchemy with a giant Cactus...

Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 5:10 pm
by Goseki
Yeah I know dur will prob never go out. I just had a thing where I wanted FULL blues. Since 6d i've been pimping whatever I had until they had 9 blues. Including luck. No reason whatsoever, I just like it. But yeah, So i've heard pure int does less crit dmg since that's base off of str. So does the chance of hitting one also based off of str?

Re: Screw Alchemy with a giant Cactus...

Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 5:11 pm
by CLOT
assimilation nv work for me, EVERY SINGLE TIME resetting bac to 0%, i'm already numb to it

juz had a nice crit 11(83%) on blade and 81% phy
i was like ok thats great, add 10% discipline to try fix br blue and assimilate my damn phy 82% to 60%

GODDAMN i spent like 60 stones to get it 80+%
i doubt its even possible to fix it bac to phy 80+% with even 60 stones

Re: Screw Alchemy with a giant Cactus...

Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 5:18 pm
by EvGa
What % stone did you use? Other than that, crit 8 isn't that bad.

Used a 30% mind stone on my shield, first stone I used on it, BR 10 -> 18. Assimilations can be great sometimes. :D

Re: Screw Alchemy with a giant Cactus...

Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 5:34 pm
by Goseki
i bought all the master 8 that was 10 and 20% in hotan. So I finally got pissed and started using the 30%. Bought all of those too until there was only 2 left. And one of them actually worked.

Re: Screw Alchemy with a giant Cactus...

Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 5:56 pm
by Hellraider
CLOT wrote:assimilation nv work for me, EVERY SINGLE TIME resetting bac to 0%, i'm already numb to it

juz had a nice crit 11(83%) on blade and 81% phy
i was like ok thats great, add 10% discipline to try fix br blue and assimilate my damn phy 82% to 60%

GODDAMN i spent like 60 stones to get it 80+%
i doubt its even possible to fix it bac to phy 80+% with even 60 stones


You're pretty lucky you still got 61% after assimilation, most of the time it goes back to 0

I've had str gone from 5->1 1 time at 80 cap and crit 10->2 on a 80 bow a week ago -.- managed to get it back to crit 4 and sold with 50m loss
(I got another crit 10 bow now though)

But also ive had assim on a 64 neck while putting str on it and it made phys absorp goto 100% :shock:

Re: Screw Alchemy with a giant Cactus...

Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 6:35 pm
by Pericles
8 crit is NOT bad.. for bicheon users, of course

Re: Screw Alchemy with a giant Cactus...

Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 9:49 pm
by CloudThe2H
why do people bother putting blues on 8d stuff...Just get blues on 8d 3rd tier or 9d 3rd tier waste of money

Re: Screw Alchemy with a giant Cactus...

Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 11:52 pm
by _Shinigami_
alchemy is not worth doing if you dont have gold :(

Re: Screw Alchemy with a giant Cactus...

Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 1:25 am
by wootpops
my 85 glaive i was doing reinforces and my crit went from 2-9 :).

Re: Screw Alchemy with a giant Cactus...

Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 1:29 am
by selenne
too much work for a 68 wep.

Re: Screw Alchemy with a giant Cactus...

Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 4:00 am
by Goseki
CloudThe2H wrote:why do people bother putting blues on 8d stuff...Just get blues on 8d 3rd tier or 9d 3rd tier waste of money


Because, some of us don't bot and don't play that often. My 64 sword has lasted me for almost 4 months. 68 will prob last even longer. So yeah, I'm use to always using something with full blues.

Re: Screw Alchemy with a giant Cactus...

Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 4:27 am
by TOloseGT
u'r lucky, i'm going straight npc till 9D last tier

Re: Screw Alchemy with a giant Cactus...

Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 4:52 am
by Detective
8D weap is totally worthless, compare to how much gold you spent on it when you outgrow the lvl of the sword you won't even get half the gold back... Better to buy pimped for D8 since it's so cheap and everyone is selling it =D

Re: Screw Alchemy with a giant Cactus...

Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 7:55 am
by AngelMare
hmm .. what should i screw it with then ?

failed +7 staff lvl 85 , finished 5 pages of accessory eliixirs on ring..
shield lvl 85 paid on it about 50m , made it br 18 .. +1 +2 +3 +4 fail .. for like million time , in the end i say keep +4 , fail at +2 .. ok ok now +4 .. blue it , int 6 , br 18>12 .. WTF .

Re: Screw Alchemy with a giant Cactus...

Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 1:15 pm
by nightbloom
The title made me lol.

ouchie...

Re: Screw Alchemy with a giant Cactus...

Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 1:34 pm
by Snoopy
nightbloom wrote:The title made me lol.

ouchie...


yeah =x, me too.

OT: Everything for me fails, I hate alchemy so much, If I had a choice, I'd use something far larger and spikier than a cactus on it!

Re: Screw Alchemy with a giant Cactus...

Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 2:36 pm
by Goseki
Yeah I've had shit luck with alchemy. Only time that it was ok was during 6d garms. Managed to pimp my entire set on first try. Since than everything fails or just suxs. The sword hasnt' changed much. I just added BR and Dur. And crit went down. Besides that It was pre-pimped. Just adding my own touch ;)

And yeah... I wish there was some secret to this alchemy shit. Never made a +5, never got 100% white. Dunno how some ppl do it T_T

Re: Screw Alchemy with a giant Cactus...

Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 7:44 pm
by AngelMare
Snoopy wrote:
nightbloom wrote:The title made me lol.

ouchie...


yeah =x, me too.

OT: Everything for me fails, I hate alchemy so much, If I had a choice, I'd use something far larger and spikier than a cactus on it!


i use my friend account , he gets everything +5 in like 5 elixirs and shiit , but i though i was lucky with stones .. by time am finding out am not .. @.@

Re: Screw Alchemy with a giant Cactus...

Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 8:32 pm
by TheDrop
hey i have nvr done alchemy before :P but im trying to raise my phy attack % on my lvl 42 bow. how much might it cost per magic stone?

sry if its a little off topic :P

Re: Screw Alchemy with a giant Cactus...

Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 10:28 pm
by Goseki
Depends on your server. My guess would prob be around 300k-500k

Re: Screw Alchemy with a giant Cactus...

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 4:46 am
by Apachai_
Try and get an assimulate to 1 then try again, I mostly usually get 1 to 5 or it stays 1 then I keep trying until goes to 5. You need to bomb about 40M though, have that much ready to bomb. Good Luck.

Re: Screw Alchemy with a giant Cactus...

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 4:47 am
by Quintus
I have to post my xbow on here one day, its beasty and once I get the money I am going to +7 it

Re: Screw Alchemy with a giant Cactus...

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 4:33 am
by Nodame
don't worry about it.

it's just a lvl 68 weapon, u'll outgrow it in 4 levels.