ICE GLAIVE XD

[tian]

are they like the new popular build now

they are everywhere on troy

most of them wear armor and mostly fullfarmed

with their heuskal chains and ice it looks pretty neat

and everyone is starting to get ice now O.O

on troy u can see ice galives, ice bladers, ice bows and ince nukers

whats wit this new trend

[Disconn3cted]

I haven't seen it

[LillDev!l]

I haven't seen it

<< plays on troy, pvp's every day, hardly sees ice users.

its coz ppl are downgrading fire to lvl 30 now (pure int's)
so less ppl are ice imune.
i still think ice sucks though, if i pvp an enemy i hope hes ice lol, no good at all.

[RogueKiller]

Ice maxed and no Fire is made to fail in my opinion for any pure str character.

[rawr1337]

It has nothing to do with fire shield.. at Lv30 fire you can still be immune, the reason people are using ice is cuz of the euro's. Though most people are complete morons and think any lvl ice will freeze euros. rofl.

[NuclearSilo]

gold bot armor+glaive used to build that, with ice, they get even less dmg than before...

[englishganxta]

>.< that has to be the dumbest thing i have ever heard

Str? Armour? lv 30 fire? ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww *pukes*

[Stress]

It might be the new breed of glaivers.

90 heuksal
90 cold
90 fire
30 light.

[englishganxta]

It might be the new breed of glaivers.

90 heuksal
90 cold
90 fire
30 light.

i wont tell you my build... but i think its best to balance the two (ice and light). lv 30 light = low parry, lv 30 ice = lowlowlow phy def... so why not.. balance them?

[Toshiharu]

It might be the new breed of glaivers.

90 heuksal
90 cold
90 fire
30 light.

I see a lot like that now. I don't see a problem with a glaiver doing that since well.. They don't have for 18% mag dmg increase or nukes. Typhoons are there and can replace the speed, but costly over time.

[Backfire]

It might be the new breed of glaivers.

90 heuksal
90 cold
90 fire
30 light.

i wont tell you my build... but i think its best to balance the two (ice and light). lv 30 light = low parry, lv 30 ice = lowlowlow phy def... so why not.. balance them?

60 light 60 ice for a balance. and no its not the best lol... The difference between 30 light and 90 light is only like 10 parry... 8% mag attack, and alot of speed which is useless. Light for pure STR is shit. 90 fire, 90 ice, 90 [insert STR based mastery here] is the best.

[RogueKiller]

It might be the new breed of glaivers.

90 heuksal
90 cold
90 fire
30 light.

Yeah seen that build a lot more recently. But they still use fire imbue.
Others I've seen are:
90 Heuskal
68 Ice (Last ice buff)
52 Light (First Grasswalk)
90 Fire
and
60 ice and light
Also
90 Heuskal
90 Fire
90 Force
30 Light
That Force build is one of the most common builds on Aege atm. Its the reason glaivers are doing 25-30k crits and what not with the new Mars.
But fire is a must for pure str. I have never seen a successful pure str without fire.

[englishganxta]

It might be the new breed of glaivers.

90 heuksal
90 cold
90 fire
30 light.

Yeah seen that build a lot more recently. But they still use fire imbue.
Others I've seen are:
90 Heuskal
68 Ice (Last ice buff)
52 Light (First Grasswalk)
90 Fire
and
60 ice and light
Also
90 Heuskal
90 Fire
90 Force
30 Light
That Force build is one of the most common builds on Aege atm. Its the reason glaivers are doing 25-30k crits and what not with the new Mars.
But fire is a must for pure str. I have never seen a successful pure str without fire.

for the first one 70 ice for the passive boost and 50 light.. u only lose what 2% speed

edit: 90 light or 90 ice would also cost u like 100k more sp -.-

[I_R_Powerpuff]

Ice vs. Force then for 90-cap.

Fire 90
Force 90 (or is 80 enough, cause 80+ is so damn SP-expensive )
Weapon 90

or Ice 90 (or 80 ) instead of force.

[takolin]

I haven't seen an ice bower or blader since the 60 cap.
People used to hate those build if they faced them in PvP.

No auto pot, no immunity leaded to ice as ultimate annoy build, specially bladers. You couldn't kill them, but they couldn't kill you either.

[SEL]

Useless build... Poor dmg, and the most of high lvl players hav 100% ice immunity.

[TOloseGT]

bleh, u couldn't kd properly when the other guy was frozen as well.

[Ragnorak]

It might be the new breed of glaivers.

90 heuksal
90 cold
90 fire
30 light.

i wont tell you my build... but i think its best to balance the two (ice and light). lv 30 light = low parry, lv 30 ice = lowlowlow phy def... so why not.. balance them?

60 light 60 ice for a balance. and no its not the best lol... The difference between 30 light and 90 light is only like 10 parry... 8% mag attack, and alot of speed which is useless. Light for pure STR is shit. 90 fire, 90 ice, 90 [insert STR based mastery here] is the best.

1st of to topic starter, I have not seen that many players with ice at 90, most are light 90. others light 60 ice 60.

2nd. difference b/w light 30 and light 90 is 34 parry and 11% mag atk. and 39% moving speed.

there are many players that don't know how important parry is.
speed useless lol. its like one of the main reasons why a pure str would get light to 90. mag. atk is just as important as phy. atk. for Chinese str. almost half of the dmg comes from imbue which increase mag atk power. 11% will give a huge boost to the mag. atk of a glavie.

Try attacking without imbue (mag atk) and see the difference in dmg.

my point is light has much greater benefit then ice. parry,mag. boost, speed. imo 90 light > 90 ice

I have fought glaviers with 90 ice and they die just as easy as someone with light 90..why? cuz glaviers with ice 90 get higher def and 90 light glaviers get higher mag. atk.=higher dmg. which kind of balance both.

[kthnxbai]

After 100-120 Str's wont be able to light anyways, They will NEED fire.

At last cap, lol.. Imagine.. only Weap and Fire for pure STRs and Light and weap or light and ice for nukers xD

I to would be fun to see those builds :p

Alot of less buffs and skills will come into play rather then just 1-2-3-2-4-5 lol

[Crowley]

That was popular during 70 cap, and I've heard, very popular during 60 cap...
The idea of Ice/Archer was very common though >.<
To "freeze the enemy before it gets to you" I suppose

[tedtwilliger]

That was popular during 70 cap, and I've heard, very popular during 60 cap...
The idea of Ice/Archer was very common though >.<
To "freeze the enemy before it gets to you" I suppose

arrow combos + cold + no one having immunity = hell for people. That was kind of the logic.

[I_R_Powerpuff]

i wont tell you my build... but i think its best to balance the two (ice and light). lv 30 light = low parry, lv 30 ice = lowlowlow phy def... so why not.. balance them?

60 light 60 ice for a balance. and no its not the best lol... The difference between 30 light and 90 light is only like 10 parry... 8% mag attack, and alot of speed which is useless. Light for pure STR is shit. 90 fire, 90 ice, 90 [insert STR based mastery here] is the best.

1st of to topic starter, I have not seen that many players with ice at 90, most are light 90. others light 60 ice 60.

2nd. difference b/w light 30 and light 90 is 34 parry and 11% mag atk. and 39% moving speed.

there are many players that don't know how important parry is.
speed useless lol. its like one of the main reasons why a pure str would get light to 90. mag. atk is just as important as phy. atk. for Chinese str. almost half of the dmg comes from imbue which increase mag atk power. 11% will give a huge boost to the mag. atk of a glavie.

Try attacking without imbue (mag atk) and see the difference in dmg.

my point is light has much greater benefit then ice. parry,mag. boost, speed. imo 90 light > 90 ice

I have fought glaviers with 90 ice and they die just as easy as someone with light 90..why? cuz glaviers with ice 90 get higher def and 90 light glaviers get higher mag. atk.=higher dmg. which kind of balance both.

So whats your opinion of [60Ice/60Light] vs [90Light] (or 80 Light since the difference of them are just 5 parry and 1% mag.atk.)
Which of them are better?

[Barotix]

140 cap build:
85% Hybrid Glaiver
120 Heuksal
100 Fire
60 Light
20 Ice

120 cap:
85% Hybrid Glaiver
120 Heuksal
100 Fire
60 Light
20 Ice

100 cap:
85% Hybrid Glaiver
100 Heuksal
100 Fire
60 Light
40 Ice

The whole point of being Chinese is to customize your build. To make your build different from the guy next to you. The pk2 files set up the illusion that Chinese skills end at level 120. the 20% Damage lost from not maxing Heuksal and the 40% Damage lost from not maxing Fire is replaced by bard buffs.

[Nitro]

140 cap build:
85% Hybrid Glaiver
Heuksal 140
Fire 100
Light 60

120 cap:
120 Heuksal
100 Fire
60 Light
20 Ice

Why would you leave your imbue 40 levels behind?
You'll get raped.

[Barotix]

140 cap build:
85% Hybrid Glaiver
Heuksal 140
Fire 100
Light 60

120 cap:
120 Heuksal
100 Fire
60 Light
20 Ice

Why would you leave your imbue 40 levels behind?
You'll get raped.

How would you know I would get raped? I can run away if needed (Phantom + Grass walk), and if you see my edit throw snow shield up. I'll also have a higher parry ratio.

[Nitro]

140 cap build:
85% Hybrid Glaiver
Heuksal 140
Fire 100
Light 60

120 cap:
120 Heuksal
100 Fire
60 Light
20 Ice

Why would you leave your imbue 40 levels behind?
You'll get raped.

How would you know I would get raped? I can run away if needed (Phantom + Grass walk), and if you see my edit throw snow shield up. I'll also have a higher parry ratio.

You wouldnt be able to kill anything... Yeah and I catch you up with Sprint Assault which will be more than 25 meters at lv.140 , and I have speed pots ...

[Barotix]

Why would you leave your imbue 40 levels behind?
You'll get raped.

How would you know I would get raped?

You wouldnt be able to kill anything

We'll see, if the pk2 is right (which I doubt) then leaving my Imbue behind won't hurt me as much as you think. I'll still be able to kill and survive. The damage lost from not maxing my Imbue is replaced with going Hybrid. \o/

The extra Magical Attack makes a difference. I'll also have my Magical buff from light, there are so many factors you're not including. You wearing armor and being pure str will also increase my damage.

[I_R_Powerpuff]

60 light 60 ice for a balance. and no its not the best lol... The difference between 30 light and 90 light is only like 10 parry... 8% mag attack, and alot of speed which is useless. Light for pure STR is shit. 90 fire, 90 ice, 90 [insert STR based mastery here] is the best.

1st of to topic starter, I have not seen that many players with ice at 90, most are light 90. others light 60 ice 60.

2nd. difference b/w light 30 and light 90 is 34 parry and 11% mag atk. and 39% moving speed.

there are many players that don't know how important parry is.
speed useless lol. its like one of the main reasons why a pure str would get light to 90. mag. atk is just as important as phy. atk. for Chinese str. almost half of the dmg comes from imbue which increase mag atk power. 11% will give a huge boost to the mag. atk of a glavie.

Try attacking without imbue (mag atk) and see the difference in dmg.

my point is light has much greater benefit then ice. parry,mag. boost, speed. imo 90 light > 90 ice

I have fought glaviers with 90 ice and they die just as easy as someone with light 90..why? cuz glaviers with ice 90 get higher def and 90 light glaviers get higher mag. atk.=higher dmg. which kind of balance both.

So whats your opinion of [60Ice/60Light] vs [90Light] (or 80 Light since the difference of them are just 5 parry and 1% mag.atk.)
Which of them are better?

Does anyone know anything about this?

[Disconn3cted]

Why would you leave your imbue 40 levels behind?
You'll get raped.

How would you know I would get raped?

You wouldnt be able to kill anything

We'll see, if the pk2 is right (which I doubt) then leaving my Imbue behind won't hurt me as much as you think. I'll still be able to kill and survive. The damage lost from not maxing my Imbue is replaced with going Hybrid. \o/

The extra Magical Attack makes a difference. I'll also have my Magical buff from light, there are so many factors you're not including. You wearing armor and being pure str will also increase my damage.[/quote]

it doesn't make sense to be hybrid and then leave the magic dmg 40 lvls below you when you are trying to get extra dmg from that imbue...

[TOloseGT]

lol, that's right, the whole reason for going hybrid is to capitalize on the imbue damage along with the physical damage.